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RE: techniques on training - 3/20/2006 10:12:30 AM   
THECORRECTOR01


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i think that most punishments should include beating. then a slave should  do something they dislike

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RE: techniques on training - 3/20/2006 10:40:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: THECORRECTOR01

i think that most punishments should include beating. then a slave should  do something they dislike


Is that just a generic statement for everyone and every circumstance?  That's a rather broad brush, isn't it?  If i was delayed and therefore late 5 minutes, i should be beaten?  Huh.

It doesn't depend on the individual and what works best for him/her?  If you had a slave who was severely abused as a child and thus cowered with a crushed spirit to a raised hand, you would beat him./her anyway?

Odd.

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RE: techniques on training - 3/20/2006 7:39:35 PM   
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It all depends on to what extent she wishes to train you...  If training consists of succesively larger buttplugs, party tricks, and reactions to your behavior, then she can find everything she needs to know online.  Should she desire to proactively and systematically train you to get over issues, actively seek out opportunities to serve, grow spiritually, and as a person, and genuinely worship her, she's going to have to put forth a bit more effort.

Japanese and English fuedal cultures were all about service, there are many kink specific books of varying relevance on the subject, check out some presentors at national events, join a local group to see how other people do things, look into psychology, current and historic methods of training in the military, books on punishment, different forms of spirituality, then take bits and pieces from all over and put them together into something that works for you.

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RE: techniques on training - 3/25/2006 2:45:55 PM   
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THECORRECTOR01

i think that most punishments should include beating. 

I would rethink that if I were you. If you have a Sammy or pain slut on your hands then you are only going to see the bad behavior get worse. This will give the slave/sub all the more incentive to "act up" knowing they can control you by their actions rather then the other way around.
To be true punishment it has to be something that the slave/sub does not want. In some cases the best way to handle bad behavior is to ignore or deprive the slave/sub of something they do want which is attention.
I am new to this but learning more every day. Thanks to everyone here!
Food for thought.
Kat

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RE: techniques on training - 3/25/2006 4:40:18 PM   
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Training is like good coaching. You have to know which buttons to press based on who is being trained/ coached. Differently people respond differently. Humiliation can motivate some, and totally shut down others. Experiment, figure out what works, and then keep using it until it doesn't.

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RE: techniques on training - 3/25/2006 4:55:29 PM   
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Mistress suggested that I ask if anyone has ideas on techniques for training, to gain my total enthusiastic obedience at all times. Different things work for different people, and we know just from reading online that no 2 D/s relationships are exactly alike. That said, any training ideas or suggestions? We will feedback with the ideas that she uses, and also the results.


First off, set realistic goals.

Is having "total enthusiastic obedience at all times" realistic?

Set back and really think for a while on this question because unless your goals are realistic you will fail. The point of training is to create a better submissive or slave, right? Then I would suggest that you want to focus on successes, not failures.



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RE: techniques on training - 3/25/2006 5:12:11 PM   
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The main thing with all training dogs, cats, horses and submissives, is consistency.
 
I start with being uber clear about what is and what is not an infraction, and then what the consequences are, and follow that plan each and every time.
 
This feel like a warm hug to a submissive. It is very important that they know they are not just playing a game, that this is real and these things are important. That their participation in their role is intricacy to both people being deeply fulfilled long term.
 
And I only set rules I care about, this way I am very unlikely to miss it when the rule is bent or broken. 
 
I have found it is an easy seduction, when first starting out, to set a whole bunch of rules which are really more like indulgent whims, but if there is no consistency the submissive becomes resentful which is understandable because the dom has basically devalued the effort they did make when they did obey that rule and so then the dom then looses a bit of ground, as their investment into the co-created dynamic becomes questionable.

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