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$8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/25/2006 9:07:17 PM   
FangsNfeet


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Status: offline 		Belive it or not, the Univ of Minnesota spent 8.5 million on a study proving that Men like to look at Naked Women. I thought Hef proved that 50 yeras ago when he became rich with Play Boy. Oh wait, all of us Men only subscribed because of the articles. The nudity has nothing to do with it.

Anyhow, did 8.5 million really needed to be spent on sublimibal imigary to conclude what everyone in the world already knows? I think the money could have been put to better use.

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/25/2006 11:05:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could you provide a link to the study? What exactly were the parameters?

I rarely trust these Rush Limbaugh-style rants about stupid academic studies... they usually spin it to make academia look like liberal out of touch idiots...so unless I see the study I am going to file it away in the "Lets spin shit and make shit up" pile.

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 12:02:00 AM   
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Could you provide a link to the study? What exactly were the parameters?

I rarely trust these Rush Limbaugh-style rants about stupid academic studies... they usually spin it to make academia look like liberal out of touch idiots...so unless I see the study I am going to file it away in the "Lets spin shit and make shit up" pile.


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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 4:38:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I first heard about the Study on Walton & Johnson 93.3 the Bone in Dallas Texas.

http://www.waltonandjohnson.com/index2.html

http://www1.umn.edu/twincities/index.php for those interested in U of M.

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 6:52:49 AM   
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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 7:01:22 AM   
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The 5.75 could be sent to Africa and feed a starving child for a couple of weeks.

What is the better use for the money?

I think about this everyday.

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 7:06:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Where is a link to the study?  You posted two links with NO relevancy that I can determine:  One to the apparent morons who occupy your mind in the mornings and one to the U of Minnesota.  If you are gonna post inflammatory crap, back it up.  Otherwise I'm with julia "unless I see the study I am going to file it away in the "Lets spin shit and make shit up" pile."

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 2:34:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

Belive it or not, the Univ of Minnesota spent 8.5 million on a study proving that Men like to look at Naked Women. I thought Hef proved that 50 yeras ago when he became rich with Play Boy. Oh wait, all of us Men only subscribed because of the articles. The nudity has nothing to do with it.

Anyhow, did 8.5 million really needed to be spent on sublimibal imigary to conclude what everyone in the world already knows? I think the money could have been put to better use.


I just don't like seeing my tax dollars being spent at colleges and universities for "studies."

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 4:00:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ava82

Here's the thing-in the sciences, unless you have a study proving it, it's still a hypothesis.  Sociology and psychology may be social sciences, but they still need studies.


Well, I think men really like looking at naked women.

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 9:11:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Right, I always thought so too, but until you can produce a study verifying it, you can't put it in a textbook or label it as a fact. 

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 9:16:19 PM   
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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 9:23:17 PM   
Ava82


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Status: offline 		I did a Google search and found this:

http://sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=000B6DFA-316D-153D-B16D83414B7F012F

It might not be what the OP was talking about, but the date and concept of naked pictures seem right.  Um, however, there is a lot more to it than that (if this is the right thing) and I didn't see any mention of money.  Perhaps the OP can verify?

Edit:  Here's another one from ABC News.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2600305&page=1


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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/26/2006 11:16:18 PM   
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2. I very much enjoy looking at naked women

I will invoice you for 8.5 million in the morning.

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/27/2006 1:20:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I haven’t been able to find a mention of the study on the U of M site or on Sheng He's faculty page. Doesn’t mean it’s not there.

I haven’t found any mention of the cost of the study so I don’t know where the $8.5 million figure came from. Some talk jocks mouth perhaps? That’s speculation though, as was the original, insinuating assessment of the study in this thread. The research asked much deeper questions than were men visually stimulated by naked women. In fact it counted on that to conduct the experiment.

From the ABC article (bold emphasis is mine).
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“So, these data are less about sex and more about our subconscious and how the brain reacts to subliminal information.

The brain can process what cannot be seen, such as subliminal presentations of erotic, violent or other emotional stimuli. But the scientists did not know whether the brain can act on this invisible information.

Researchers from the University of Minnesota wanted to see how powerfully subliminal images could affect our ability to pay attention.”


Sounds less lke a money-waster than a little bit of clarity towards a bigger picture.


As hostile as BushBaby is to science I don't think it's responsible to manufacture outrage like this. (Those damned marble-tower intellectuals wasting our precious money inventing the 21st friggin’ century!)

Z.

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/27/2006 2:12:19 AM   
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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/27/2006 4:04:55 AM   
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Where is a link to the study?  You posted two links with NO relevancy that I can determine:  One to the apparent morons who occupy your mind in the mornings and one to the U of Minnesota.  If you are gonna post inflammatory crap, back it up.  Otherwise I'm with julia "unless I see the study I am going to file it away in the "Lets spin shit and make shit up" pile."

E.


You mean my word is not good enough? Have some faith in your CM breatheren.
As for W&J, don't knock'em as morons untill you have listened to the show. It's only fair to give someone a chance before you beat them down with your ignorance. Anyhow, Ava got the info for you since you were to lazy to do it yourself. Keep demanding and I guess someone will finally cave in to your lack of an ability to research. 

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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/27/2006 5:07:01 AM   
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You mean my word is not good enough?

Anyhow, Ava got the info for you since you were to lazy to do it yourself. Keep demanding and I guess someone will finally cave in to your lack of an ability to research. 

Your word and sources might be a but it seems your word alone leaves much to be desired on this matter.

And who is being lazy? Pot / kettle / black and all that. Generally speaking it is the responsibility of the person making the assertion to provide some proof.
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RE: $8.5 million Vs My Free Observation - 10/27/2006 8:23:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Honesty time!  I didn't do the research out of any altruism.  I knew the assertion was crazy and wanted to make sure I was right.  And I am not sure where this 8.5 mil thing came in.  8.5 mil could build a freaking hospital, not conduct a study with pictures for forty people. 

As far as the tax dollars thing goes-from my understanding, researchers apply for grants from charitable/resource organizations mostly funded through donations.  If tax dollars are being spent in education, I believe that's for the running of your local public schools-perhaps even for the running of a college.  But research money?  I don't see how that comes from taxes.

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