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Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 9:06:44 AM   
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Okay folks, once i again i come to pick your brains.  As we all know i'm pregnant.  And at the moment i am in health insurance limbo while it switches over to prenatal stuff.  Yay me. So basically i have to wait about 2 weeks before i can go to a Doc.  Yay me again.

I had an issue of low blood sugar last night.  I'm wondering if its coming from drinking a Dr. Pepper?  Course i would think that would make it spike?  Anyways, i just woke up not tooo long ago and i'm not completely "all here" yet.  BUT i did just eat some chocolate and i'm starting to feel like i felt last night?  completely weird and slightly dazed. But then it could be the not fully awake thing

Now i was at the hospital last night (and yeah i left once i realised i would live) so i didnt stick around to get all the info.  But they did say to drink a glass of orange juice.  Which doesnt make sense? 

course it could be completely unrelated to the intake of sugar?  I dunno, but i aim to figure it out
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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 9:08:46 AM   
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Orange juice gets sugar into your bloodstream faster than foods and it's a better longer-lasting sugar than processed sugar sweets.

You should be snacking on fruits and veggies throughout the day to keep things at a balanced level.

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 9:16:56 AM   
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Yeah - agreed.  Yesterday i was eating cantaloupe and orange juice and then some cheese and um prego sauce.. and i felt wierd.

i've got my OJ and milk here.... And i'm out of veggies = (  I want some celery. 

I think i just found  friend who knows whats going on.  I might just have to stay away from sweets all together.  Which generally the only sweets i eat are soda, but since i've cut drastically back. 

And i just WANTED some chocolate today.  I figured 3 pieces couldnt hurt. 

but now i feel fucking wierd again.  I think if its just sugar like sweets and soda - it'll be no problem cutting those out.  Here's hoping = )

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 9:31:40 AM   
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Yeah - agreed.  Yesterday i was eating cantaloupe and orange juice and then some cheese and um prego sauce.. and i felt wierd.

i've got my OJ and milk here.... And i'm out of veggies = (  I want some celery. 

I think i just found  friend who knows whats going on.  I might just have to stay away from sweets all together.  Which generally the only sweets i eat are soda, but since i've cut drastically back. 

And i just WANTED some chocolate today.  I figured 3 pieces couldnt hurt. 

but now i feel fucking wierd again.  I think if its just sugar like sweets and soda - it'll be no problem cutting those out.  Here's hoping = )

Bits of chocolate in itself isn't likely to cause a reaction- but we already know you've got a very whacked out digestive system and metabolism so all reactions are going to be exacerbated.

When you add in the fact that you've cut way back very suddenly on processed sugars, a tip in the other direction will cause a bigger reaction both on the upswing and the down swing.

As usual, do all things in moderation, keep yourself hydrated and keep a little bit of healthy food in your stomach at all times.  It might help to keep apple or orange bits on your nightstand to snack on when you first wake up before you get out of bed.

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 9:35:39 AM   
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Please do watch your blood sugar carefully because in pregnancy you can develop gestional diabetes. I don't know if your diabetic or not or perhaps hypoglucemic. but too much sugar isn't a good thing and sodas are loaded with it. I'm diabetic and I never realised how much sugar there is in almost everything we eat. Fruit juices are loaded with sugar too!

So please for your sake and your baby, talk to your healthcare practioner asap. Blood sugar problems can cause a host of bad things and  you don't want that to happen.

I wish you both the best.

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 9:52:42 AM   
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No Dr. Pepper, honey.  No cola or Mt. Dew.  Caffiene and processed sugar is not good for a pregnant woman.  Or anyone, really.  Chocolate gives you the same combination.  Double wammy on the insulin.  Five meals a day (3 meals, 2 snacks).  You will develop gestational diabetes which is very dangerous for you and your baby.  You need Protein 5 times a day with a COMPLEX carb to process the protein.  Orange Juice is a good thing to stabilize your blood sugar when it is low, but you need to have Protein combined with complex carbs all day to keep your blood sugar stable and from spiking.  Whole fruit is better than fruit juice for meals.  Fish, milk (even non fat), cheese, peanut butter, meat all great for protein.  Egg/Toast.  Tuna Sandwich. Piece of fruit.  Balanced meals.  A blood sugar monitor is about $70 if you can afford one maybe that would be a good idea until you can get your insurance straightened out.  I hope you are taking PreNatal vitamins.  Write me on the other side if you want recipe or grocery ideas.  I'm diabetic and see a nutritionist and Endocrinologist.  Take special care and good luck.

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 10:18:48 AM   
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Ok, i just got the run down from a friend of mine.  Apparently, what i thought was "good eating" is not good eating.  What the hell do i know? 

I dont generally like sweets and i drank a Dr Pepper yesterday because i was dead tired and wanted to do the tricker or treating thing.  Twas going for the energy boost!  Silly me...

Course i'm taking prenatal vitamins!  I'll keep your suggestions in mind LA.  I tend to actually lean more towards veggies these days.  Like i'd rather eat a raw green pepper then eat a piece of fruit.  But i'm trrying...  So i'll try sticking some fruit next to my night stand. 

I dont think i'm diabetic or hypo glycemic - and i dun ever remember feeling this way before!  Gawd and i STILL FEEL WIERD.  How annoying can it get?  But i drank some V8 juice and ate .... soooo. 
Here's hoping.  I drank some OJ and milk too.  Ug i just want to feel normal.

I'm about to go create a thread in OFF topic about good food ideas, because it seems i'm having this problem because i havent a clue about proper meals.  Course my friend hooked me up with food network - but all that seems complicated and the food looks wierd. 

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 10:30:05 AM   
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man i feel FEEL WIERD and i DONT LIKE IT.  And i just did the things i thought i was supposed to do to even me out.  Drink OJ, drink milk, drink V8 juice, eat one of those frozen chicken enchilada's with rice and cheese.. one of those big things you throw in the oven for 2 hours. 

but i feel the same.  And its pissing me off!  I need to DO things!  Suggestions????? 

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 10:31:48 AM   
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Simplicity.  Remember this about fruits & veggies, the rawer you eat them, the more nutritious they are.  And really you should not be overdosing on sugar, caffeine or over processes food, especially when you are pregnant.  And also, your caloric requirement increases during pregnany, especially near the end when the baby grows faster.  

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 10:39:05 AM   
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Be sure to read the labels of everything you eat/drink. You will be shocked at how much sugar can be found in a bottle of fruit juice. Water is your best bet and lots of it, fresh vegetables, leafy greens and lean meats, lowfat milk is good. Remember everything you eat, your little one eats as well. Chocolate though I love it too, is not good. perhaps  just a small square off a hershey bar per day won't hurt. I know it sucks lol But you have to take care of yourself.

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 10:42:49 AM   
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You also might be you know...just pregnant. 

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 10:51:28 AM   
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Yep, not all pregnancies are created equal.  With my first I had morning sickness,the classic kind where you sometimes throw up after eating a meal.  With my second I was nauseous all day long, never threw up, but wish I could.  During the fourth month something happened and I was never sick another day of that pregnancy.

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 12:08:29 PM   
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You might try Chromium Picolinate and Vandal Sulfatee (not sure on spelling). Those two minerals are essential for the proper metabolism of sugar. High or low, it comes back to the same thing. If that doesn't work try a colloidal mineral supplement such as Dr Powers (a better idea).

If nothing else go nuts on nuts, all kinds, not just peanuts. Cashews are very good in Ch and Va, but even better eat mixed nuts. Make sure you get the kind that DOES NOT have hydrogenated oil. In fact forget margarine and Crisco too. They sap essential minerals out of your system. Now that your system is loaded down by supporting a fetus, you get deficient. Nature's way not mine. That is the cause for natal diabetes, the fetus comes first, this is by the grand design of the universe and nothing is going to change it.

When I switched to real butter, lard and bacon grease, and cut out all sugar and most carbs my health improved immensely. I did other things too, but I'll tell you this, no more arthritic knees, no more carpal, no more back pains. And to top it off one of my teeth capped itself. I am trying to figure out how to prove it, like if the hospital has record from when I got shot in the face. If they got an Xray of that tooth on microfiche I would like to bring it up on the net, and produce a new Xray proving what I say is true. Until then you either take my word for it or you don't. I know it's hard to believe, I find it hard to believe but the evidence is right here to me.

The medical system is really screwed up, minerals are what most people need. Actually the word vitamin is derived from the roots vita=life and min=mineral. But they have distorted it and I have proof that even vitamin C is not needed if the mineral intake is properly balanced and sufficient.

It would not be in their best interests to tell you this.

Be well and good luck.

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 12:45:33 PM   
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yeah i seem to be having a LOAD of problems with this one.  I might just be facking old.  I'm wondering if thats the issue!  i'm OLD.  Um.. i still feel slightly wierd!  i dunno.  Crazy shit. 

You guys need to stop talking about protiens, carbs, and sugars like they are actually something.  I dunno, mebbe its just me, but like i need the actuall "foods" to process what your saying. 

um yeah.  Dunno what to say other then i still feel wierd.  Did what was suggested to me, its not working.  Least i dont feel pukey.  Ummmm my body temp is going up at the moment and i'm about to shower. 

sigh i dun think im going to eat anything else that is sweet.  Gawd its not worth it.  Taken most of my day trying to put myself back to sorts and its NOT even working.  i dun like to feel like i'm in a daze

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 1:00:31 PM   
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I felt exhausted every day no matter how much I slept and had naps, until the last trimester. 

The cravings I had were the only things that would help during months with intense nausea.  Mine didn't go away at 4 months, but at least lessened in intensity; I've had girlfriends who didn't have any nausea at all (the bitches, lol) and some who had it only for a very short time.

I developed a strange problem though.  My blood pressure would drop below 70.  Normal for me is in the 80's, and when it dipped I was light headed and would almost black out.  I'd have to sip orange juice and lie down for an hour or two, the prenatal clinic made me do this, as taking 3 busses for a few hours to get there made this happen like clockwork.  I couldn't eat or drink anything on the busses, and there wasn't the time nor opportunity to drink or eat between them, as they were so close together. 

I was sent for thyroid tests, a scan of my brain, etc., but nobody made the connection about my flaking out when my blood pressure went too low *for me*, and treated it like it was just low blood sugar, until I was taking a girlfriend to a doctor at our shelter and I flaked out in his office. 

I had given up salting my food years ago, drank water instead of soda and other drinks, and had given up junk food.  Trying to be healthy, lol.  He recognized the cause of my problem right off, and told me to start salting my food, drink Gatoraide or juice or milk or even soda pop instead of water, and it worked for me.  Whenever I'd try to go back to water and saltless eating, I'd feel like I was dissociating, then later, blotches would appear before my eyes and my body would buckle.  I think I'd get mild nausea and a migraine too, but I can't remember for certain anymore.  This still happens to me if I'm on a long car trip and have the air conditioner or heater on, am very tired, or am sipping tea all night while I drive.  Orange juice or some cranberry grape helped when I substitued those.

All the things you listed were carbs, even the meal.  Are you having problems handling protein?  I can't handle protein whenever I'm having chemos, just the smell of oils or animal proteins cooking will make me ill.  I handle cold cheese just fine though, as well as yogurt.  Go with what you can handle, eat very slowly, and if it comes up...eat or drink (maybe you can handle some meal replacement shakes like Slim Fast or Ensure to supplement what you're eating) some more after a little while even if you don't feel like it.  Eventually some will stay down.

Looking back now, I wish I had let the doc give me an anti-nausea drug that's safe for pregnant women, called Compazine.  Sorry to hear about your insurance limbo.  Is there any chance of you being able to go to a free or low cost clinic to have the basics checked out? 

When I flaked out big time complete with visual distortions, my blood pressure was at 68 -62.  It was the second number listed and I can't remember if it was the diastolic or systolic (not even sure about the spelling, lol).  From 70-76 I'd feel very out of it, like things were in slow motion and/or happening to someone else; this was my warning to drink something and have something with some salt before I got worse.  At one time, I ate broccoli, carrots, and celery dipped in some ranch dressing and that hit the spot, making me feel normal. 

Celery is supposed to help a bit with nausea, and so is ginger.  Eating what I had a craving for helped too, and was safe because I didn't experience any pica. 

I have overactive insulin.  Having small ammounts of sugars is okay, but if I have some pasta with garlic bread, 16 oz of any sugared drink, candy or cake or cookies, there's a rebound effect and half an hour later I'm ready for a deep sleep.  If you get tired or sleepy after drinking oj or milk or soda, maybe having a smaller amount (6 oz or so) frequently thoughout the day will help. 

Take notes of what you ate and when and how you're feeling throughout the day, and see what works best for you and what makes you feel worse...and Crazy Glue the doctor's butt to the chair to make him listen when you describe the problems you're having, if you have to.

BTW, congratulations on the baby, RiotGirl.   Have you started looking at baby stuff yet?  I saw a pregnancy calendar at the Dollar General.  Didn't have those way back when, when I was preggies. 

I envy you...hearing the baby's heartbeat for the first time, watching the kid rolling around via ultrasound and using the womb for a punching bag, that startled look of surprise the first time a baby tastes icecream...Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny...and the Tooth Fairy. *grins* 

My kid was a major pain during pregnancy, doing all kinds of things to my body and brain that I didn't like...it's strange that I'd look back fondly on those times as the good old days. 

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 1:35:40 PM   
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Thanks for that.  Drinking Gatorade now actually.  As far as morning sickness.  I'm doing damn good.  I almost threw up driving the other day but i managed to say Whoa horsie! and maintained and then it went away.  I'm very very very lucky.  With my daughter, i was sick morning, noon, night - non stop.  Just hearing about certian things had me in the bathroom.  I'm not throwing up, but alot of things or the thought of them just make my stomach roll. 

funny story (when i was preg with my daughter) - Friend said "hamburger to me" i looked at him and say DONT say that ever again.. and he grinned.. and i warned him i'd slap the shit out of him.  Course he said it 3 times in a row, i ended up in the bathroom and slapped him promptly when i got out = )  Humerous to me, that the word hamburger could produce such a reaction.

They said my blood sugar was 72 last night.  Yeah... i know what you mean about how you felt.  I DO feel out of it.  Like i'm not HERE.  I dunno, its just damn wierd.  Dunno what to do about it, blew my whole day.  i've laid down, i've drank this and that and that and this.  Bah.  I eat cheese = )  Cheese is good.  So you are suggesting salt?  Any other suggestions?  This is starting to make me cranky, cos well i've been feeling out of sorts all day.  Its STUPID.  Damn it.  I loathe going back to the hospital.  Hell all i want is to feel NORMAL.  And i dun know how to do it.  I dont feel hungry, i feel gross and out of sorts.  I feel like i want to sleep, but i've a daughter and that option is out.  I've got SCHOOL work to do and a house to clean.

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 4:53:26 PM   
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When you're sugar is low, you need sugar (a small amount) to give it a boost, but then you need protein to maintain it.  So, orange juice, half a glass of soda, a couple pieces of chocolate to get the boost and then maybe peanut butter or cheese to help maintain it.  (I only do the sugar first if my blood sugar feels really low.  Otherwise, I go right for the protein.)  My blood sugar was very volatile while I was pregnant. 

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 6:10:14 PM   
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RG:

This is a pretty good link to learn proper nutrition and what foods fall into which category.
You are pregnant so should take in about 1800 calories a day at least.

Read the link and when you get to the box that tell you how many servings of each food group you need for each calorie diet... clcik on " milk"  " Fruit" etc and it will give you a list of the foods that are in that category and how much  a serving is .
Don't be too picky about measuring stuff to begin with. Guesstimating is OK and  what you really need to know is how to balamce and what foods to choose to be the most healthy.

They also have a recipe section that will tell you how many " exchanges you are using.

Hope you find it useful:

http://www.24hourfitness.com/html/24_5/food/exchange/

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/1/2006 8:38:50 PM   
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Ok Riot, here's your diet.

I couldn't help it because before it, I didn't know I was a poet.

In the morning you fry up some meat, I don't care if it is ham or spam ir leftover steak. Throw in an egg, more than one if you like eggs. Then you put some cheddar or other REAL cheese on it. You are allowed two big pieces of toast, or if you get like rye bread that is smaller (like me) you can have three. And put real butter on it. Incidentally if yall like jelly or jam on toast, try it after it is buttered and the butter has melted in,.it kicks ass.

For lunch have a sandwich, and try to have some soup with it, and I do not mean out of a can, REAL soup. Boiling has a way of getting the nutrients extracted, that's why mankind invented it millenia ago. If it didn't work we would not be here.

At dinner you also need meat, but you can stuff up a bit on carbs, like potatoes or pasta. Actually rice dishes are better for you. A nice spict stirfry would be great, almost ideal.

Now I say you must limit carbs and sugar, but I did not sat you have to limit them down to nothing. That you have to play by ear. You should gain approximately three times the weight of the fetus, no more. If you sit at a PC screen all day, you don't need much carbs, unless you are pregnant. If you have a more active job you need carbs. If you were, say a construction worker you might need plates and plates of pasta.

Esprcially when you are pregnant, when you get hungry, remembere that junk food does not feed the fetus. Actually it does not feed you either.

Slip the two cents under the door, when the floor of the vestibule is covered I am going to pour a buch of clear stuff on it and have the nicest floor in the neighnorhood.

T

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RE: Blood Sugar? - 11/2/2006 4:55:32 PM   
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Thanks!  I actually stopped by the store to get some ham for breakfast.....  course i didnt get eggs, but bah.  Ham, toast and cereal!  Sound good?  Tho i dunno if i can eat that much. 

Dunno where i'm going to get REAL soup!  I'll have to spend some time in the kitchen this weekend and see if i can make some.  I've celery.. Celery Soup!

Well i dont generally sit infront of a computer all day.  Been doing more so lately, or laying in bed - because i've been absolutetly tired.  Way too damn tired.  I about passed out today in between shopping with my mother while she was driving.  Sometimes i'm too damn tired to sit here.  I dont work, i'm in school full time and trying to pull all of that off.  Classes are every day - so its abit of excerise.  Generally, it depends on how i feel.  If i feel great them i'm constantly moving, with maybe a sit down period at night, sometimes  every now and then through out the day.  Random breaks.  Waiting to feel well enough to start taking bike rides at night, explore some of the older cemetaries, get back to the ymca and go back over to the wooded area over here that has two lakes so i can start creating some more bonfires - )

Basically, lately, i do very little, tired no matter what with brief periods of forcing myself to suck it up. 

and i'm not one for junk food. 


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