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Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 7:29:13 AM   
LadyBeckett


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As much as we love to have fun, and Oh My My! we do! We care about what is going on with the children. What they see, how much they are exposed to, etc. I see it woven throughout the threads here. Someone is concerned about her profile being seen, and someone else mentions the children. Someone in another thread mentions children in the lifestyle and actually said something about "disciplining mommy". Oh come onnnn! The truth is that we all have questions and concerns about the children.

There are those of us who actually have children, and I thought I might start a thread where we could share some of our experience(s) in handling, educating, etc, when it comes to the lifestyle and the internet.

The one thing I didn't do when it came to the internet, was put a computer in the "bedroom". So when my daughter has online time, it is in "view". In addition to that she has her own log on which is preset with parental controls.

Children are naturally curious and drawn to those things that are considered "taboo". I grew up in the lifestyle and around nudity, so that wasn't a big deal to me, but I recall a good friend of mine showing me a picture of a nude male that she had procured somehow and how she had slipped it out of her book (all "I spy" like) with eyes bright and cheeks flushed, proud of her little prize. "This is what mennnnnn have" she breathed, as she pointed to his flaccid penis, her eyes wide as saucers. I looked at her with that "yeah...and???" expression.

My daughter has grown up much the same way I did. Although with some modifications. When my daughter was born there were several events in our world. John Wayne Gayce (sp?) who said, "Show me a 3 year old who doesn't know about sex, and I'll show you my next victim.", and quite frankly, that terrified me. Children don't need to know everything, of course. But they do need to know who to trust, who they can depend on, who they can talk to, run to, ask questions and get answers. And We need to stay informed. We need to keep up with what children are talking about. My daughter came in one day (she was playing with some children outside) and asked, "Mama, is it true that when men have sex with women they take their clothes off and then kill them?". I answered no, of course. She said "thanks" and went back outside, slamming the door, naturally, and I heard her announce, "Mama said 'no'" and they resumed play.

Of course now her question are more complex and adult in nature. She is more curious about the lifestyle. She asked about male chastity devices the other day. I took the time to explain that to her and took her to a site so she could see them. She is not sexually active, by choice.
I suggested the cb2000 option for her dates (I am a mother!) but she rejected it.
She also rejected the handcuff idea ,
and the 42 page contract idea ,
and the first two dates at home with Mama idea ,
and the Mama going on the date idea .

So what that leaves us with is communicating with our children, interacting with our children, listening to them, believing they are listening to us, establishing and building that trust in the relationship.


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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 8:16:42 AM   
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I have two young children myself, and plan on trying to be as honest with them when it comes to sex or my lifestyle. I did not grow up in the lifestyle, but my grandparents were very honest with me when I had questions about sex. You know children repeat most of what they hear, so I am a little worried about them going to school and telling everyone what mom's lifestyle is or what a "freak" mommy is. They are only 2 & 4 right now but I would appriciate any addvice given.

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 8:44:12 AM   
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Ha Ha My daughter never said I was a "freak", she just tells all of her friends that her Mama is a "Pit Bull" lol I swear she does. I am a soft spoken woman, and while I am tall, I am not large at all, but I am very assertive. That is how she translates that dominance. lol

I've always said "We make time for things that are important to us" and with that thought in mind I'll say this...children have radar. They hear everything! They can be involved in play three rooms away while you are involved in a hushed conversation, and they'll hear every single word of it. When will they repeat it? Oh probably in the middle of the grocery store, or during Sunday dinner at Grandma's in the presence of the whole family! The most inconvenient and embarrassing place possible! If there is a child within a mile, don't have the conversation, or...develop another language. lol

Never ever leave "toys" laying out unless you are prepared to explain them. "Oh that's Mommy's strap-on, thank you, honey" That could be a little awkward. I remember about three years ago, my daughter was about 12 I suppose, and she asked me if I ever used that blue vibrator that was in the bottom drawer of my chest. I did the eyeroll thing, looked to the side, and inquired as to why she was asking. "Oh I took the batteries out a couple of weeks ago and wondered if you needed them back".

I have kept information as "age appropriate" as possible, while making every effort to blend vanilla and lifestyle as seamlessly as possible at the same time. It has worked well for me.


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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 9:24:31 AM   
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amen!
i don't have children yet, but this is -exactly- my philosophy about how i choose to raise them. well said, and well thought out.

speaking as a once-kid with less....sensible...parents, your daughter is lucky.

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 9:59:50 AM   
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Would you write her a letter and tell her that????

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 11:36:25 AM   
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When my kids were toddlers and started moving about on their own, I moved anything that could hurt them, they could hurt others with up far over their head, and filled the ground level cupboards with tupperware and unbreakables. My son's morning ritual involved pulling it all out and leaving it in a big pile in the middle of the kitchen.

They never had the opportunity to get in to anything I didnt want them to get in to.

My parents indicated they were not going to childproof their house (my father has a loaded rifle in his closet, etc) which pretty much determined how often (i.e. never) we would leave the kids with them.

All it takes, imho, is a bit of foresight and the ability to see the world through their perspective and make it safe and happy for them.

Hrm, I have tried to do that with those submissive to me as well...

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 12:28:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyBeckett

Would you write her a letter and tell her that????



oh but of course not :) she has to hate you now, so she'll appreciate you when she grows up *grin*

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 1:40:04 PM   
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quote:

I remember about three years ago, my daughter was about 12 I suppose, and she asked me if I ever used that blue vibrator that was in the bottom drawer of my chest. I did the eyeroll thing, looked to the side, and inquired as to why she was asking. "Oh I took the batteries out a couple of weeks ago and wondered if you needed them back".


OMG you went a couple of weeks without using your vib? LOL i'm assuming you had others hidden away.




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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 1:45:55 PM   
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My 13 year old son recently found my favorite vibrator, which I had left in the blankets of my bed overnight. He decided to watch a DVD in my room. Instead of freaking out and letting him see me mortified, I calmly said...it is used for several things, from a neck massager to a device used for sexual pleasure. His eyes widened, and I kept my cool and said, "I'm not married and I don't have sex with men right now, so sometimes this is a way to relax for me." He seemed to take that well and understand. Of course, I freaked out later when alone...laughs. Oh, and I was not completely honest about that sex part, but he does not have to know everything. I want to keep an open dialogue with him so that he will know he can come to me and get the truth.

And I am hiding my vibrator in a new place.

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 4:04:17 PM   
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It's a bit tangenal <sp?>, But one young lady I was introducing to this stuff had two little girls, ages 4&6. The first time they were in my Apt, the older suddenly asked

"Mommy? What's dom?"

We both froze for a moment. I had THOUGHOLY de kinked the Apt ('cept for the various eyebolts here and there, and blammo- I must have missed SOMETHING!

I calmly asked "where'd you hear that word, Megan?"

She pointed to the Bottle of DOM on the wine rack!

Of course, about two years later the little monster got me again. We were sitting on the couch doing her homework, and CNN was on the TV. Someones (Ellen?) sexuality was in the news. "What's a lesbian?". I look over at the table where Mom, Grandma, and Aunt are sitting. Grandma Says,"She asked _you_!"

I gave some age aproprite answer along the lines of " well some girls grow up, and marry girls instead of boys- " or something like that, which was later agreed to be as good an aswer as they'd have come up with on the fly.

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 5:14:30 PM   
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A few years ago when my youngest was 4, we had several friends over. Since there was more room in my bedroom for the kids to watch televison, we let them go there. About 8 kids piled in a king size bed, watching cartoons. (so we thought)

My friends and I were in the living room talking, as well as my teenage daughter and a few of her friends. Just all chatting about life and what had been going on in our lives. When the four year old, who loves dinasaurs came out with a neon green vibe held to his forehead as if it were a horn. Yes, it was turned on, and he was making like a "dinasaur" to come chase us.... I was mortified to say the least. Everyone burst into laughter, I laughed so hard I was crying. All the while trying to catch the little shit running about the living room with his "horn" firmly in place.Of course since everyone was laughing this was fuel for the child. I almost caught him as he made yet another lap around the coffee table, when he removed it from his head and ran it along the glass table. You can imagine the noise it made.

To this day, I have not lived that down! When I went to get new tags on my car the last three letters were "GLO", so of course the teenager and her friends got a kick out of bringing up my GLO in the dark neon green vibe once more.


I laugh just remembering that kid running thru the livingroom. :) And vibes are no longer kept under the mattress.


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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/29/2004 5:27:03 PM   
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LMAO... thanks for sharing, that was great!

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/30/2004 1:58:43 PM   
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I don't actually see my life with Master as different than my vanilla marriage with my ex. New studies say you should explain sex to children as young as 5. My two teens learned about most things sexually related at the ages of 4 and 5. That was the year Freddie Mercury died. So AIDS was the first topic, which took us to homo-sexuality, and other types of sexuality.

On the note of childproofing, I do believe you shouldn't leave things that need special training (like loaded guns), or something that can cause damage just by touching (like knives, forks near plugs, etc.) but besides that believe that you shouldn't have to childproof. When we got Race in Oct, he was 15 months old. At Christmas time, I set up my villiage and all of my other decorations. He was not allowed to touch them, plain and simple. People who came over were really shocked he didn't touch these things, but he knew that touching them would get him sent to his room. Since day one, I have treated him as I have my own biological children. I didn't baby-proof for them, and between the 3, I am complimented everywhere I have ever taken them because they listen and don't touch.

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/30/2004 2:02:12 PM   
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Midear Sandy-

How'd you come up with 'Race' BTW?

the only thing I can think of is Race Bannon from Johnny Quest.....

great name, though.


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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/30/2004 3:33:00 PM   
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That is it Sir, though we didn't come up with it. His mother left his father when she was 6 months pregnant because she discovered he was selling drugs. She had Race while living with us and continiued to live with us for his first 5 months. She moved into her own place, then *ran* leaving the baby with the father. When he got her back her, he got her hooked on meth, and when they were both jobless and about to be evicted, she asked us if we could watch Race for a few days (we had already told her for us to help her, she had to go in for treatment first). That was in Oct. We have had him since. Should we be allowed to adopt him (one of the options we are trying to work out), we would keep the name though, as over all I live it. His middle name is Xavier for Racer X.

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RE: Oh Baby Baby - 4/30/2004 5:11:59 PM   
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I have always felt that children should be allowed their innocence as long as possible. These days with all the societal influences ie; sex, violence, etc. it is getting harder and harder to do that.
Kids are curious, and of course they find things that you could have sworn you hid better. And I learned quickly that my bedroom stays locked. Lol.
When my son found some bondage equipment way in the back of my closet, I told him calmly that they were for Halloween. Meanwhile I was dying inside. Lol.
In reality, kids couldn't care less about what their parents do in private. In fact they don't want to think about it. It's gross. Lol.
I think if you do get busted accidentally, they may think about it for a little bit, but not for long. They have more important things on their minds.
At least I hope so! Lol.

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