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Morrigel -> RE: cuckold (11/6/2006 8:19:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subfever
I agree that cuckoldry is primarily perpetuated by males, with a motivation towards their own gratifications. The numbers of genuine, dominant cuckoldresses are extremely small. 


Generally speaking, the women who are strongly motivated to pursue this kink on their own are very angry people.  They have a serious need to punish/humiliate the cuckolded partner.

I tend to think of cuckoldry when it is motivated by the man (or both men) involved as a sort of variation on the "forced bi" scenario.  Generally a way of expressing fascination and arousal with another man's sexuality using the woman as a legitimating vehicle:  subconsciously, at least, there may be an element of "this is ok because she is a bad girl and she is Making Me Do This".

Dunno.  I've had many requests.  Never have done it...the logistics of developing a relationship with a submissive man and bringing in another guy for stud service never much appealed to me.

--M




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: cuckold (11/7/2006 12:44:39 AM)

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Generally speaking, the women who are strongly motivated to pursue this kink on their own are very angry people.  They have a serious need to punish/humiliate the cuckolded partner.


Morrigel

I have to respectfully disagree with you. Over the years I've known many cuckold couples and this has rarely been the case. While I'm sure that the situation itself can be humiliating for the cuck involved I don't find it to be any more so than many other aspects of a D/s relationship. Its basis is most often PE. It being the right and providence of the Cuckoldress to control the sexual aspect of the marriage/relationship far more than anger or humiliation.

Utopian Ranger
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It's my feeling that this kink is /was totally perpetuated by men. To this day, it's still pressured and forced on women by men, and not the other way around


I'm afraid I also have to disagree with you as well and just as repectfully. I have always been the one to introduce cuckolding to the relationships. Even in my few vanilla ones, some aspect of cuckolding was in place. Those that weren't in agreement with it went their merry little way; those that did agree to it were a wonderful part of My life. Now more than ever women are learning the power of Female led relationships. Cuckolding is being proposed by far more Dommes in their D/s relationships. Personally I've always been the proponent of it. However I've never pandered to the cucks preferences. It always has been and always will be done My way and by My rules.

To the OP
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why are there so few women interested in the cuckold lifestyle also if any of you are into it i would be interested in what you get out of such a relationship  


While I cant answer the first part of this query I can perhaps give My explanation to the second half.

With My first cuck it was a matter of his inability to serve in a sexual way. This far before our days of Viagra et al and an understanding and treatment of Premaure Ejaculation. his knowing that I am/was a highly sexual person meant that he understood the difference between My love for him and My need/desire for sexual pleasure he was unable to perform. Once the pressure to perform was taken from him as a choice or expectation he was able to serve Me in far better in other aspects. His inablity was a fact of O/our life together and one that W/we dealt with and solved accordingly. In the interim My tastes and requirements in a cuckold relationship have been refined. For Me more than anything its the PE and control that holds the appeal.




canupleaseme -> RE: cuckold (11/7/2006 2:39:32 AM)

the only time i will cuckold is when i want to treat my boy i know he likes havin someone locked in my cupboard being forced to hear us havin sex and whilst its not something i would do often i will occasionally use my sissy maid for that purpose which of course she enjoys too but its not my thing really . i know my maid would love to be able to have sex with me and knows this just wont ever happen so being able to tease her like that is great and obviously my boy likes it sometimes so when im in a good mood and feel rewards of that size are needed i dont mind at all but tbh i cant be bothered havin to think about someone else in my bedroom when i just want to get down and dirty with my boy
(just to clarify my boy is 22 not an actual boy [&:])




Jasmyn -> RE: cuckold (11/7/2006 5:20:29 AM)

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I think cuckoldry is more about emotional masochism and humiliation than it is about voyeurism.

 
Sea, do not forget that this fantasy does exist outside d/s...and for these men voyeurism is very much a part of being cuckolded.  It is seeing or hearing about their partner in the throes of passion with another man that a lot of self proclaimed cuckolds seek.   ... you read it all the time "I can't satisfy my wife, please fuck her with your bigger, larger, better cock" ... "I like nothing more than watching a big cock filling my wife's cunt and spreading her wide like the dirty cock whore she is"...in these scenarios the female partner must be subservient to the needs of their cuck partner's fantasy...his fantasy dictates who fucks her and why.   For sure he'll masturbate furiously at the humiliation of it all but would be far from gracious to accomodate his partner's cuckoldry if she didn't share her spoilts with him. 
 
When I come across a person claiming 'submission' to find this, I tell them to seek a switch, sub or simply kinky partner.  Their cuckold fantasy doesn't require a 'Mistress', it just requires a consensual other.






Jasmyn -> RE: cuckold (11/7/2006 5:36:12 AM)

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Generally a way of expressing fascination and arousal with another man's sexuality

 
I think that is a great observation Morrigel ...many who fantasise about it will go into great detail about the 'bull' or 'stud' and the part his cock or sexual prowress plays in the scenario.
 
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Generally speaking, the women who are strongly motivated to pursue this kink on their own are very angry people.  They have a serious need to punish/humiliate the cuckolded partner.

 
I have to disagree with this however ...




UtopianRanger -> RE: cuckold (11/7/2006 5:47:49 AM)

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Generally speaking, the women who are strongly motivated to pursue this kink on their own are very angry people.  They have a serious need to punish/humiliate the cuckolded partner.

I tend to think of cuckoldry when it is motivated by the man (or both men) involved as a sort of variation on the "forced bi" scenario.  Generally a way of expressing fascination and arousal with another man's sexuality using the woman as a legitimating vehicle:  subconsciously, at least, there may be an element of "this is ok because she is a bad girl and she is Making Me Do This".

Dunno.  I've had many requests.  Never have done it...the logistics of developing a relationship with a submissive man and bringing in another guy for stud service never much appealed to me.


You're a beautifully intuitive lady.

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I'm afraid I also have to disagree with you as well and just as repectfully. I have always been the one to introduce cuckolding to the relationships. Even in my few vanilla ones, some aspect of cuckolding was in place. Those that weren't in agreement with it went their merry little way; those that did agree to it were a wonderful part of My life. Now more than ever women are learning the power of Female led relationships. Cuckolding is being proposed by far more Dommes in their D/s relationships. Personally I've always been the proponent of it. However I've never pandered to the cucks preferences. It always has been and always will be done My way and by My rules.


There's always exceptions to the rule.




 - R




Morrigel -> RE: cuckold (11/7/2006 1:40:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

I have to disagree with this however ...


I will freely admit that this is totally based on anecdotal evidence.  In my limited personal experience, I have to fall in with the crowd:  I've rarely seen cuckoldry couples in which the man was not the prime motivating force of the activity, regardless of how the woman directed it and grooved on it once she learned the ropes.

The twice I could honestly say that a cuckoldry situation was completely imposed by the woman, it was only semi-consensual, the male submissive partner was miserable (and soon gone from the relationship), and the gal was a nasty piece of work in general.

Veeeeery limited sample size, so maybe these were freak occurrences.

--M




sosniagara -> RE: cuckold (11/9/2006 3:38:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressTheaZ

In the past, I've had a lot of fun with cuckold slaves...for those with whom one can twist within desire and denial, the possibilities are intense. Most of My interest centered within denial followed by chastity; I found fairly quickly that the humiliation and emasculation of such conditioning only improved the efforts of finetuning the developing personal servant slave.

Why am I 'not into it'? Simple reason: I personally found that many men who have desires or interest in becoming a cuckold partner, submissive or slave are selfishly motivated. I do not appreciate being used as a means to an end, (or a variable of the greater equation), for a slave to fulfill his voyeuristic sexual desires. I found that many were less interested in how this may be introduced or how this may make them feel and more interested in the details of a possible encounter and how it would happen. *sighs*

Turn off.

I'm sure there are many who are sincere. I just tired of discussing something seemingly only contemplated as masturbatory fodder.

Best,

~Thea





That's the thing. I have a strong cuckold streak in me but I don't really bring it up or talk about it with the women I"ve served. Esp since my general tagline for all this is "free virgin maid" so by promoting a sexual thing in a non-sexual offer would just seem wacky.

If things start to become regular with me waiting on them sooner or later all the stuff we both like comes out just by chatting but I'll never ask her to do this or that because it gets me off. To me that's the polar opposite of what this is all about.

I realize my place is to serve and wait on her and that it's the place of whatever man she chooses to be wth that for anything intimate. My place is to scrub her floors while she's enjoying herself with her bf.

If the woman didn't have a bf then the dynamic of my servitude to her was exactly the same. It is my place.




sosniagara -> RE: cuckold (11/9/2006 3:41:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MzTlaz

Hmm....I too think it's perpetuated by men and have had lots of requests myself to cuck someone.  I'm still not sure how I feel about it.  I agree that it seems a fairly common male fantasy to watch 'their woman' with another man or woman for that matter and it does seem to be not much more than live porn for them.

However.....if we're really going to talk about it I don't see why the cuck actually needs to watch, surely knowing the woman is with another man or is in another room or if needs must is tied to a chair and blindfolded in the same room would fulfill the true cuckold desire.   And, that serves the Domme much more in my opinion as the control is where it should be.


Exactly I've never watched (nor seen them naked for that matter). There's no need to (unless she wanted it) since that's not what I'm there for. Outside of the scene when we're chatting about what we've liked I've mentioned I loved it when she was kissing her bf while I was scrubbing some embedded crap on the floor but I would never ask her to do that again for my benifit.

I'm just grateful I could be allowed to clean so she could spend more time enjoying her bf.




LTRsubNW -> RE: cuckold (11/12/2006 6:51:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: demistress

I enjoy the idea of cuckolding, but only if the person means something to me.  I am not a performing sex monkey.  I don't like being watched for the sake of watching.  I only like cuckolding when there's a power exchange involved.


Yeah...it (and she) has to matter.




LotusSong -> RE: cuckold (11/12/2006 8:57:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littledad1

why are there so few women interested in the cuckold lifestyle also if any of you are into it i would be interested in what you get out of such a relationship


If a guy want's a free sex show to watch..he can go pay for it like everybody else.




MySweetSubmssive -> RE: cuckold (11/12/2006 9:22:52 PM)

To echo with what some others have said ... I dislike cuckolding because of the way it is brought up by submissives.  In virtually every case, it feels like it is about him getting his rocks off somehow, and not about my pleasure.  One ends up feeling like his own private porn star.  It's cheap and manipulative.  Yuuuuuuuuck.

With one submissive, "cuckolding" came up because he expressed that his cock was *very* small.  He expressed a willingness to leave the door open to other partners for me --  that he wanted to know that his dominant got the pleasure she wanted and deserved.  This didn't feel like the typical manipulative crap, but ... profound yielding and submission.   Ironically, (for the aspiring cuckolds), I am interested in having extra-relationship partners, but only when it's in a context like this.

MSS




leatherzack -> RE: cuckold (11/13/2006 1:13:40 AM)

i was rather reluctant to cuckolding until a Mistress gave me Her way to see this.

As form of total control over a sub, She enjoys chastity and orgasm denial, but She still enjoys having sex with men.
So the solution for Her is to keep Her slave in chastity while She can feed her sexual need with other men. It is nothing related to the sexual ability of the slave, but just a way to have the Mistress sexually pleased while the slave is kept chaste.

i find that vision logical and interesting.




LTRsubNW -> RE: cuckold (11/13/2006 6:57:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

quote:

ORIGINAL: littledad1

why are there so few women interested in the cuckold lifestyle also if any of you are into it i would be interested in what you get out of such a relationship


If a guy want's a free sex show to watch..he can go pay for it like everybody else.


Ya know...I'd even be all good with that...so long as she came home to my bed every night.

(And, of course...told me all the salacious details).




LTRsubNW -> RE: cuckold (11/14/2006 5:40:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MzTlaz
However.....if we're really going to talk about it I don't see why the cuck actually needs to watch, surely knowing the woman is with another man or is in another room or if needs must is tied to a chair and blindfolded in the same room would fulfill the true cuckold desire.   And, that serves the Domme much more in my opinion as the control is where it should be.


(Works for me)




zigg -> RE: cuckold (11/15/2006 6:14:27 AM)

I always thought when people talked about cuckold relationship it meant that she was allowed to go out, date, and possibly have sex with other men while the sub in the relationship had to be monogamous to her.




subfever -> RE: cuckold (11/15/2006 7:00:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zigg

I always thought when people talked about cuckold relationship it meant that she was allowed to go out, date, and possibly have sex with other men while the sub in the relationship had to be monogamous to her.


I think that's a fairly common theme for those who fantasize about and/or engage in Femdom-cuckoldry, though my guess is that variations exist.




Hercuckslave -> RE: cuckold (11/16/2006 12:00:52 AM)

for us it was the opposite.  i am fiercly monogomous by nature.  when Mistress and i first met and began our courtship, I made it clear that I was monogomous and didn't want to be cuckold, part of a stable, etc.  She was equally clear that she was poly and would never be with just one.  Seemed like an impass and that we would be casual partners.  Well, love, fire, souls, whatever took over.  I became her slave.  I always thought in the back of my mind that she was poly because she hadn't met the "right guy".  gradually i began to realize that i could not be everything for her, nor could i fulfill all of her needs.  this began with her bisexuality.  yeah yeah, i know....i'm a heterosexual guy so seeing her with, or not seeing but knowing, another woman is pretty damned hot. 

over time, as my love for her deepened, and my trust in her and our relationship grew, i became more at ease with the idea.  she still hadn't done anything or crossed that line, but somehow I sensed that she wanted to.  We are deeply in love and committed to each other.  I know that at the end of the day, it is ME she comes home to.  So fast forward....yes, I am a cuck.  At first there was jealousy.  I got over that.  It makes HER HAPPY.  that is my job, right?  to make her happy.  or, at the very least, to not do anything that would prevent her from getting the things she wants.  a jealous attitude would certainly get in the way of things. 

now, what about my feelings now?  i have to be honest, and i NEVER thought this would be the case....sometimes it really turns me on.  sometimes i have to choke back my jealous as well. 

whatever, it works for us.  and believe me, contrary to some of hte suggestions above, it was NOT my idea.

M's m




reversecuckold -> RE: cuckold (11/25/2006 12:06:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: zigg

I always thought when people talked about cuckold relationship it meant that she was allowed to go out, date, and possibly have sex with other men while the sub in the relationship had to be monogamous to her.
 

It is. Every single married woman who has ever had an affair (known or not by her husband) has just cuckolded him. It also may or may not have anything to do with S/M. The majority have nothing to do with it in fact and its more akin to swinging than anything else.




Lordandmaster -> RE: cuckold (11/25/2006 6:24:45 AM)

I'm just curious.

What is a "reverse cuckold"?




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