LadyEllen
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I'd say that would be the typical interpretation of the situation, by a CD male - ie, how good do I look in this? and by extension, how good does she look in that?
I rather imagine the idea would be, to find out how other people's reactions to her vary, when they perceive her to be a guy, as compared to their reactions to her normally. We had something in the UK in a similar vein to this a year or so back - sending celebs out into the world crossdressed/fat/old and so on, to see how things were for the opposite sex, the obese and the old, through the eyes of those who had never experienced those conditions. It was fascinating.
Its only when you do adopt the condition of the other, so convincingly that you are taken for the other, that you really see how things are. I should imagine that most CDs would recoil at the thought of really, truly, being treated as many women are in normal life. I'm not talking about some handsome stranger chatting you up in a bar - common CD fantasy as I understand it - but about being ignored, interrupted, disrespected and treated as stupid, paid less, allocated the more menial tasks and generally thought of as lesser.
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i'm sure that's the theoretical point of the experiment. However, i maintain (and i'm actually a little surprised that you don't dismiss the show's "bit" for the same reason) that there's a substantial difference between pretending to be "other" for a day, and placing yourself in contrived situations (with a camera crew in tow?), and actually LIVING as the "other". i think we all know that physical appearance and the confidence that someone carries with them makes a huge difference in how they're perceived and treated. Could someone from the elite- good-looking, wealthy, young, and with the confidence that comes from all of that- really put themselves in the shoes of Joe Average? Would Tyrone Banks (i presume. Heh) really act, and consequently be responded to the same way as a passive, shlubby male, beaten down by an oppressive mortgage, nagging family, and twenty years at a job he despises, with nothing to look forward to but hopefully living a few years of retirement before his health or savings run out? i say no.
And trust me, i know all about "being ignored, interrupted, disrespected and treated as stupid, paid less, allocated the more menial tasks and generally thought of as lesser"... i have a liberal arts degree, no social skills, and work for a multi-billion-dollar corporation!
...dave
But Dave - youre missing the point I think. Its not about how the person who is changed reacts, it is about how other people react to them. There is an argument that clothes maketh the man, but that is limited to how the man feeleth from the reactions of others unto him. What such exercises in the UK showed, was the disgraceful way that obese, disabled and old people etc experience without a murmur - but brought to full light by someone not usually subject to that treatment who thus found it noteworthy. I'm not sure how the Tyra show will do it, but the UK programmes used hidden cameras and mics to avoid the TV crew effect.
I'm sorry to hear about your job. Come work for me. We'll have fun.
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Thats it. benji needs to be humanely put down... a person uses an emery board, NOT a FILE on their nails. 
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