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I get sad - 2/12/2005 8:29:14 PM   
Nikita


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Status: offline 		For no real reason I get sad then i turn off my phone shut my bedroom door and wont chat to anyone even if they come to my house,when I feel better i apologise but at that moment i just cant bare to see or talk to anyone,I take to my bed with comfert food(chocolate...ummmm) and dont leave it, it happens about once a month sometimes i dont even call work and then make out there was some major emergency why i didnt show up by now I think they think i have some major issue at home,my schoolwork can suffer coz of it as well,my sis says i am lazy and....i am *smile* but its more than that when i had a boyfriend (vanilla) I used to have him up all night holding me and massaging me and telling me everything would be alright, he actually noticed the pattern before me (I just thought it was a bad mood) I try not to let it control me but inevitably I give in to it its my birthday soon and I would love to conquer this once and for all (its been happening since I was a child) any tips or advice?
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RE: I get sad - 2/12/2005 8:57:39 PM   
onceburned


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Status: offline 		Nikita, it sounds like you might be suffering from depression. Its a medical problem so getting medical help might be a good idea.

If you would like, you could take a short online quiz to help you decide whether you should talk to a doctor about this.
http://www.med.nyu.edu/psych/screens/depres.html

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RE: I get sad - 2/12/2005 9:37:29 PM   
BlkTallFullfig


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Status: offline 		Hey There Nikita,
You should talk to a doctor about it...
It could be depression, or the hormonal changes aroung Menses/Ovulation times making you feel this way...
I would definitely discuss with a doctor though and see if there's something that can be done to prevent it or alleviate it because you don't want it to get worse, nor do you want it to cause you to lose your job/flunk out of school (as that will definitely make it worse). M

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 2:57:37 AM   
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You have some form of depression. It may or may not be related to your menstrual cycle. There is something called premenstrual dysphoric disorder and it has symptoms such as depressed mood, anxiety or tension, emotional instability, irritability, decreased interest in usual activities, concentration difficulties, marked lack of energy, marked change in appetite, overeating or food cravings, sleepiness or insomnia, and feeling overwhelmed.

Here is an overly dry, but very informative article on PMDD http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3357.htm There is a bit more accessible article at http://familydoctor.org/752.xml

Remember, depression of any type is not weakness of character. It is not a failure. It is not punishment for something you did, nor is it something you deserve. It is a glitch in your brain chemistry. If your car had a maladjustment in it, you'd take it in to be fixed. Treat yourself at least as well as you'd treat your car. Go to a Dr. Get a diagnosis and treatment.

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 8:20:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Heh. Yeah, what they said.

Go see a doctor.

From experience, this isn't a good place to be and a doctor can help.

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 8:47:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		And after you visit the doc, find a lover to rub your back and soothe you.

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 10:12:42 AM   
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it happens about once a month


hmmmmmm, sounds suspiciously hormonally related...the female hormones tend to run in cycles, some patterns are predictable, some not. if you aren't in excrutiating pain, having a fever of 102 or vomiting for 24 hours, bleeding profusely, or teetering on the edge of a very high place, a doctor is the LAST person to see. obviously u have access to the internet, this slave would encourage u to do some research on NATURAL remedies and solutions to your problems--the answer could be something as simple as changing your diet.

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 12:53:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		If it's a sporadic thing let's not rule out bipolar either.

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 1:11:40 PM   
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quote:

I would love to conquer this once and for all


You're not to blame for feeling awful, but you do have one very big responsibility, and that's to seriously deal with the problem. You owe it to everyone to do that, yourself first of all. You definitely owe it to your family and to your employer (and I can't believe you'll keep you job long if you don't at least call in sick).

I agree with everyone who said to see your doctor. Make an appointment immediately. It's sometimes hard to face a problem that strikes at your emotions, but resist any urge to forget about it, because you know it will just come back.

The doctor may prescribe antidepressants, and those often have side effects that can make you a bit tired for a time (among other side effects). The side effects generally go away, so stick with whatever program the doc puts you on.

If you haven't talked about this with a close friend, that would also be a good idea.

But whatever you do, take this thing seriously or its going to cause a lot more problems later. Good luck.

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 1:19:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		i agree with what has been said by the others. i would think it is some kind of chemical imbalance since it is so debilitating.

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 1:38:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think that the key here is that you say this occurs once per month. That definitely makes it sound like there could be a hormonal aspect to me. Exactly what part of your cycle does this occur?

I would try natural/herbal medicines or dietary changes before I went to see the doc. I am one who believes it is not good to put harsh chemicals into your body if it is not necessary and anti-depressants are harsh chemicals. If you get no relief the natural way then by all means see a doctor.

Once you get to the doctors office he WILL put you on meds because that is what he is TAUGHT to do and it is also what he has come to expect that his patients expect from him. It is a rare doctor who will consider or who has knowledge of natural remedies and there is very little in current medical school curriculum regarding diet other than the obvious "Eat Less Fat" kind of teaching.

I am not telling you not to go to the doctor(before everyone jumps all over me). I am well aware that for some, medication can be their saving grace. I am merely stating that I would not make it my first choice. I would try the alternatives first as the doctor option will always be there, but if you do the doctor thing first you will be discouraged from trying the alternatives and they just might work without need for drugs.

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 6:55:32 PM   
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Actually, I strongly disagree with those who say do not go to the Dr. While we all think that you have some type of depression, we are NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. This is the Internet. We can not diagnose you. We give you our opinions based on what you tell us. That doesn't make us right. You go to the Dr, get diagnosed and then decide what to do about it. As was mentioned, you could be bi-polar or a host of other things. The power is in knowing what you have. It is obvious that you have something. Find out what. Then you can determine how you want to treat it. Do not just start altering your diet or taking supplements. You do not know they are safe for you. For years, people natterd at me to take glucosamine for my bad knees. They were sure that I would be helped by it. Something felt off about taking something not given to me by my doctor. I'm VERY glad I listened to my inner voice. I was recently told I have ehler danlos syndrome a connective tissue disorder, and that glucosamine would have caused extreme dislocations. Gee, you mean over the counter herbal remedies and drugs can be dangerous? Yes! Get your diagnosis and start some research. Find out what is available for whatever you have and make your decision from an informed point of view.

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 8:44:03 PM   
perverseangelic


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ORIGINAL: proudsub

If it's a sporadic thing let's not rule out bipolar either.


Bipolar gets such a bad name, I swear. There are lots n lots of other kinds of depression, but if someone has period of not being depressed they are automatically bipolar.

(I think this sounds mean. It isn't meant that way. It's meant as an observation by someone who is in treatment for Bipolar II and does a lot of reading)

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RE: I get sad - 2/13/2005 9:20:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't read the whole thread. Just skimmed it. So, forgive me if I repeat many. I noticed merc stated it could be hormonal. Sounds very much like it probably is a very bad case of PMS. Everyone gets different symptoms. Some people have it severe.
The fact you say you also eat chocolate, well chocolate actually helps us while in PMS.

Of course, the doctor is the one who should be diagnosing you. None of us here.
Don't feel so bad. I too have days I won't answer the phone or the door. Talk to anyone. It isn't when I'm sad but when in deep thought and don't want to be interrupted. I don't even apologize to people during that time.


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RE: I get sad - 2/14/2005 7:39:41 PM   
Nikita


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Status: offline 		I think by bipolar you may mean manic depression (thats its name in england) as far as i understand manic depressives have periods of euphoria (manic episodes) I have never experienced anything like this,I have to admit I have wanted to go to the Doctor for some time but I was scared he would try to put me on something once about 3 years ago (at 18) I told the doctor I was a bit down and before i finished my sentence he wrote me a perscription for prozac!! seriously just like that! he didnt even wait for me to ask any questions just instructed me to read the enclosed leaflet.
I didnt take them because I was scared I would lose touch with reality (however grim I dont want to lose touch with it) and just decided to ride it out but now I am fed up I have been 'riding it out' for too long and feel i have missed out on alot because of it and life is too short!! I have heard good things about st johns wort and wonder if anyone has tried it and if it has helped.

Thankyou for all your advice so far but seriously is it really just me who sometimes wants to take up the fetal position in bed and wallow in self pity (and chocolate) sometimes, I hope i am not alone,the weirdest thing about this is that if you were to ask anyone about me they would probably say 'ooh she is so funny'or 'always smiling' thats probably why no one takes me seriously when i say I am depressed or sad.

ps. I did take the test recommended and according to that i must seek psychiatric help!

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RE: I get sad - 2/14/2005 7:55:53 PM   
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I have heard good things about st johns wort and wonder if anyone has tried it and if it has helped.


I took St. John's wart when i went off phen-fen because that caused me some mild depression. It worked great for me.

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RE: I get sad - 2/14/2005 8:14:51 PM   
sub4hire


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quote:

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I have heard good things about st johns wort and wonder if anyone has tried it and if it has helped.


Actually St John's wart has been proven ineffective in medical trials for depression.

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RE: I get sad - 5/14/2005 12:48:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Absolutely the best start is to see a Dr. The question is, what kind?

An honest assessment of your your life, as YOU see it, would rule out whether/not there are emotional issues that compound your menstual cycle.

A word of caution: Drs get kickbacks / perks from pharmaceutical companies. Gynocologists VERY often prescribe Prozac etc without looking into alternatives / issues related to emotional / mental conditions.

These meds are a OFTEN given as a quick fix by Gynos and GPs, a sort of bandage on a boo boo. That Dr gets paid whether / not you 'get better.' Actually he gets paid MORE if you don't get better bc you will keep coming back for more treatments.

Again..see a DR. but be informed when you get there. These drugs often make users apathetic. Please do research before taking any pills..... they have side effects you need to be aware of and the Dr is not as interested in YOU as YOU should be.

Best of luck!

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RE: I get sad - 5/14/2005 12:55:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikita

I think by bipolar you may mean manic depression (thats its name in england) as far as i understand manic depressives have periods of euphoria (manic episodes) I have never experienced anything like this,I have to admit I have wanted to go to the Doctor for some time but I was scared he would try to put me on something once about 3 years ago (at 18) I told the doctor I was a bit down and before i finished my sentence he wrote me a perscription for prozac!!


Here, manic depression got re-named bipolar, because it doesn't always come with mania. Bipolar I includes hugely manic highs and hugley depressed lows. Bipolar II is incredibly low lows with highs that are mild. That is, you go from depressed to "normal" (which is incredibly happy for you). The mania isn't always noticable to outside people.

Bipolar II has been known to progress to bipolar I if left untreated. (ugh.)

And I had a similar problem with my doctors. They were eager to write me perscriptions, but not willing to work with me to get the -right- perscription. I think you have to be willing to get rid of doctors and to tell them that the medication isn't working.

Also, like Smilin' said, do reasearch into what you're taking. Be willing to change the kinds. I find that SSRI (selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors) do very little for me in terms of curbing depression unless combined with mood stablizers. Don't believe that prozac, or paxil, or welbutrin is a garunteed fix. Also, too, many psychoactive medications are basically medical black boxes. One of the medications I take is a complete mystery to my doctors. They know -what- it does, but they have no idea how.


Saint Johns Wort is -dangerous- if taken with antipdepressants. It has also been shown to trigger manic episodes in bipolar people. I've heared it works alright for mild depression, and sometimes for seasonal affectidness disorder, but not for clinical depression, and that it's downright dangerous for bipolar people.

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RE: I get sad - 5/15/2005 10:17:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		As well as going to the doctor, it's important to realise that if it IS Depression he or she can't wave a magic wand. You'll have to learn news ways of thinking and treating yourself. This involves observing yourself, working out what the patterns are, identifying the feelings you're getting and when - all this will help your doctor make his diagnosis. I find it helps to write stuff down and send it to the doctor ahead of time, if you're anything like me you'll turn up to the doctor with loads of stuff to say and then never say any of it.

It does sound like a hormonal problem to me, but you say you've had it since childhood?

I too don't have a great deal of belief in St John's Wort. If you'd like to try an alternative therapy AS WELL AS doctor's supervision, try Reiki. It's lovely.

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