Slavetrainer2007 -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/4/2006 8:27:01 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007 Actually, i wasnt mounting a defense. I dont need to defend myself against pixels on a screen dear. To be perfectly honest, i find some of the people here amusing. You see here is how i see things: your a sub.. your not every sub. Im a Dom, Im not every Dom. your taste opinion,views and whatnots of whats right wrong or just plain not interesting enough to have a view on may be different ( and probably are ) than mine and the other 6-7 billion people in the world. Ive seen things in this lifestyle, Or was introduced to me by people in this lifestyle that would give vanilla people nightmares.Those paticular things , some interested me some didnt, i didnt judge. I didnt judge their interest, taste, or views and try to validate them or otherwise just plain point out that they are wrong. I didnt do this because their is one thing i am certain of and that is im not God, theirfore it is not my place to judge. Rover may be the nicest greatest guy on earth. Archer may be too. Celeste may be the greatest sub on earth. but it is none of their places nor yours to judge me, my interest, my views, my opinions or validate anything in my life. This is were BDSM was lost and this was reborn. See when i got in BDSM i learned two things right off, 1) you NEVER judge another person. 2) You always show common respect for people that show it for you. I came to these boards minding my business and giving my opinion without offending anyone. I try to give advice not play the kiddy games some seem to like to play on here.I , unfortunately, get dragged into the kiddy games because some judge me by my profile. In fact every new person on here is IMMEDIATELY JUDGED by their profile... if you read my profile you know about this much, ., about me, my views, opinions or personality Im not here to defend what i do, who i am, my opinions, my interest or my intentions. I care not what 99.9% of the people in the world think of me my ways or my personality. If i did i would of been insane along time ago. Im here to give my point of view on topics and to read others points of views on topics not play war on a message board. my responses to comments made about me, to me or in flame of me are for my entertainment because their is nothing interesting to read/ post on at that moment. ( From this point on this isnt directed at aquatic) Someone once told me and i will always remember this: "You will learn to master another person you first must learn master yourself." these rants and judgements and i need proof of purchase from people i met 10 seconds ago have no interest in any kind of relationship with me and vice versa are just plain childish.. if you want to judge people run for judge in your local court system. This tells me they havent learned to master themselves. And they sure havent mastered at least one of the general ideas that make BDSM so popular and that is " to each his own" All i see on these boards is critisizing of this person and that person. I read profiles dozens of profiles like this." Doms please stop sending me emails im literally receiving hundreds a day and cannot keep up." or profiles like this " Why is everyone here so bitter and rude" I see it in the forums : you ( not you personally aquatic) sit back like a predator stalking prey... waiting waiting and then you pounce. you start the judging and rudeness and bitterness. because someone ask a bloody question and says he has x amount of years experience. and to you( you in general) that seems like a noob question( which was taken the wrong way btw) . Your so eager to pounce on people on these boards you dont even read what people are asking you just twist it into something you can use against them. and then comes the judgements and validations and derailment of threads and taking such judgements to every bloody thread . Its sad its really sad THIS is what BDSM has turned into. and no it wasnt like that before, not like this you had a few idiots that did stuff like this but the majority of people that actually knew what it was to be Dom/sub or wanted to learn kept them from taking over. yes i am ASHAMED of the BDSM community and this doesnt apply for everyone cause im sure their are some really good people here. It has been twisted and turned into something where you are quick to judge , quick to insult, and quick to disrespect. congratulations, you( again not aquatic) have succeeded at degrading the BDSM community into a pathetic battle of one defending themselves against a horrorific force of judges, none of which are capable of judging anyone by mine or Gods standards. Heres an idea:stop judging people, learn some respect, and grow up at least act your ages. I demand no ones respect however i did nothing do deserve the disrespect people here have shown me. in light of that i came here respectful. my profile shows my interest and i think in a respectable way. apparently CM agrees its acceptable as they published as is the first time around without me having to edit anything. i have respectabily posted my opinions from experience not from books or what i saw tom dick and mary do at some meeting. they learned about it if im giving an opinion on it i experienced it and if im giving an opinion on it and havent experienced i will state that. You guys want to flame and pick on newcomers like 3rd graders go right ahead. and i will treat every single one of you just like 3rd graders that are misbehaving. so if you like to be treated like children then carry on with your flames and judgements and nitpicking profiles, and calling people out and making them defend themselves all the time. Ill go on treating you like 3rd graders. And ill go on helping the newcomers as i was once helped by considerate Doms and subs. no matter how stupid their question may be in someone else opinion. If you think you bother me with your flames judgements and childish behavior, you are sadly mistaken. the only part that bothers me is that i have to call you a member of my community. If you dont like my long post dont read them. that is YOUR choice and I WILL NOT JUDGE YOU ON IT. Flame on! EDIT: in response to something i missed posted by aquatic. I never said, implied, or otherwise stated i am better than anyone. to do so would give me a jesus complex and im sure i dont have that. What i did say,imply or state is that some people on here act quite childish and do have jesus complex. that would make me more mature and more realistic than them, but not better. Well, if you wouldn't be so childish about being corrected in rather polite manner (it could have been said nicer yes) then I really don't think we would be having a problem with you. Well, we would still be poking fun at the "Super Trainer" thing, but that's kinda to be expected here. If you are going to open your mouth and give advice, expect to be corrected if you are wrong. If you think you are right, back yourself up with research and resources. If you aren't willing do that because you are too busy living the lifestyle, then perhaps you are too busy to be giving advice in the forums. PS. I never said you thought you were better nor did I imply it. I was implying you were acting foolishly. :-) 1) polite. so its polite for the first thing said to a newcomer to be: can you valiadate your claims on your profile because i think you are a lier( even though this is the first thing ive ever said to you) again show me at least some common respect you would show the average person in everyday life and ill do likewise. disrespect me and try to discredit me publicly just cause you feel like and expect no respect from me. Jump in on said convo and feel the effects of putting yourself in it.its not childish i stated my experience in my first reply. he attacked i defended... thats called instinct not childishness. 2)"if you are going to open your mouth to give advice,expected to be corrected if you are wrong.If you think you are right back yourself up with research or resources" Ok let me get this straight . First, your saying my opinion can be wrong, i did not realize you could give an opinion and be wrong. Second, you do realize the books, manuals websites and everything else you read that are considered research and resources for this topic are OPINIONS given by said authors. and i say this with one exception cause i know someone will feel the need to bring this up. documented history( which records events as they happened) is an exception. so the history of BDSM isnt included in this. Other than that learning this or that , research here. going to castledom Going to bobs BDSM for beginners is someone opinion. so what you "reference Dom/subs "are doing is using someone elses opinion as a reference instead of formulating your own opinion. Their is no one person qualified in BDSM, no master ,no grand master, no super universal grand master to say what/ whos opinions are right or wrong. that is someone giving their opinion on someone elses opinion. BDSM is or was last time i looked an open community with extremely loose guidelines. bascially if you were the B,D S, or the M ( and even the meaning of those letters have been debated. ) you were into BDSM. and everyone with interest in those was accepted with open arms. Ill use the bible here cause its the best example its universally known. The bible is in many forms. this religion has their version that religion has their version and so on. The bible is taken from basically in a nutshell the opinions and views of men as God told them bestowed up on them. Its their interurptation. that interuptation was then reinturpted rewrote and became the many slight varations of what is now used. the bible is an opinion of an opinion of an opinion, etc but one religions version isnt wrong and neither is the other religions version of the same part of the bible. Its just what the founders of that religion/ writers of that version interupt it to mean. and that goes on right down to church( if you go there) the pastor priest father whatever you call him/her interurepts that inturpatation. Thus its really hard to prove anyones view of it wrong..because they are all in then end a bunch of different views. and no one author/ religion can claim and back up their version is the right one. taking it to BDSM... no ones person, group, community( unless its the entire BDSM community) can say what is right or wrong because in the end everything but the history of BDSM is someone elses opinions and not a proven fact. Granted this is going to be nitpicked for that special circumstance or something retarded. like " its fact if you choke a slave long enough during play she will pass out" so i just discredited you. Edit: bare the typos,etc my eyes hurt and i dont feel like proof reading. I know such misspellings can imply a person doesnt know english, grammer and anything associated with it. ( you would think people heard of a proofreader by now)
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