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The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 3:56:44 PM   
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I've heard so much about the fantasy of being "whored out" for a person's dominant partner.  Mostly I hear about this from men wanting to be "whored out for cash" by their femdom partners, but I imagine this might exist in the femsub world as well.  These fantasies are often complex and include the man being dressed up, humiliated, forced to service men (even though the sub is straight) sexually.  It can be something like "forced to give blow jobs to men for $5" at a party or something more complex -- being turned into a streetwalker and actually "pimped out" by the femdom.

Do subs who have this desire also find an attraction to doing it online, on cam? In other words, if a femdom had a few male partners that wanted to see a man jerking off, how would that sub feel if she whored him out and charged money for it, money that he did not see?

I'm curious how many male fantasies like this (ones that are logistically and from a safety standpoint hard to pull together in real life) are attractive to subs on a smaller, more realistic scale. Or, is the extreme, even absurd (and thereby safe, because of the unlikely nature of it happening but the ability to talk, plan, review endlessly) nature of it that makes it attractive?

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 4:46:00 PM   
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People have had those websites for years now.  I seem to recall Jen was the first year's ago.
Most of them now charge money.  Isn't that the same definition of whoring themselves out?

Most people seem to think on the internet everything is annonymous.  Even though it is not.
IP address and such...so easy to find out who a person really is.

In any event it has never been a fantasy of mine....though I see it happening all of the time.  So many people are into it. 
How many people have you come across in the past year who will send you a nude photo of themselves?  Same thing...what is to stop you from making money off of their photos?

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 5:01:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I've heard so much about the fantasy of being "whored out" for a person's dominant partner.  Mostly I hear about this from men wanting to be "whored out for cash" by their femdom partners, but I imagine this might exist in the femsub world as well.  These fantasies are often complex and include the man being dressed up, humiliated, forced to service men (even though the sub is straight) sexually.  It can be something like "forced to give blow jobs to men for $5" at a party or something more complex -- being turned into a streetwalker and actually "pimped out" by the femdom.

Do subs who have this desire also find an attraction to doing it online, on cam? In other words, if a femdom had a few male partners that wanted to see a man jerking off, how would that sub feel if she whored him out and charged money for it, money that he did not see?

I'm curious how many male fantasies like this (ones that are logistically and from a safety standpoint hard to pull together in real life) are attractive to subs on a smaller, more realistic scale. Or, is the extreme, even absurd (and thereby safe, because of the unlikely nature of it happening but the ability to talk, plan, review endlessly) nature of it that makes it attractive?

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Fortunately for me, being whored out is no longer in my vernacular, and besides...I'm well worth 11 bucks on a bad day.

Nevertheless, I've had this fantasy.  As it turns out, I'd have to have borrowed several thousand just to get turned down.

Thankfully my credit is in such disarray that I'd have had to have begged for a cupcake simply to ask for an opportunity to be disregarded.

(But I digress).

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 5:07:58 PM   
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There are dommes who pimp out their male subs?

My my, how the other side lives.

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I've heard so much about the fantasy of being "whored out" for a person's dominant partner.  Mostly I hear about this from men wanting to be "whored out for cash" by their femdom partners, but I imagine this might exist in the femsub world as well.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 5:13:38 PM   
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I've known a male sub who had this fantasy and had it fulfilled in a controlled setting and I'm sure there are females who have it too.  It isn't my cup of tea but it seems to make some people happy.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 5:34:37 PM   
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I've known a male sub who had this fantasy and had it fulfilled in a controlled setting and I'm sure there are females who have it too.  It isn't my cup of tea but it seems to make some people happy.


(Well, I'm a male slut, and I defy anyone to tell me {unless of course there's significant money involved, wherein which I want a public debate} whether or not, controlled setting or not, that I can't strut my 48 year old stuff and corral all the cash that's waiting for me to grab hold of).

(So there).

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 5:50:31 PM   
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I have heard of this from both men and women in both roles -- it's an interesting fantasy of mine to give away or rent out a slave. My reallife caution means very little chance of that happening in my household.

Fox actually hates the term "whore" -- he'd prefers being called a "slut" which is more a statement of reality when he's horny but he takes whatever I call him as my right to call him what I wish.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 7:44:11 PM   
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i dont have fantasy's around whoring out a male under my care, having had several disturbing and damaging years in the sex industry in my youth.
 
if a male has such fantasy's, and if we were intimately connected, i can only imagine that i would be willing to "play" out senarios...but i dont think i would be comfortable allowing any one i loved or cared for deeply, to inadvertently harm themselves in that way.
 
my responsibility is to keep them from harm.
 
they simply would not be able to convince me that it would not do damage to them long term.........end of story.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 8:49:15 PM   
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quote:

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Do subs who have this desire also find an attraction to doing it online, on cam?

I feel no real desire to do that except for the money itself.

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Or, is the extreme, even absurd (and thereby safe, because of the unlikely nature of it happening but the ability to talk, plan, review endlessly) nature of it that makes it attractive?

Akasha

There is an element of objectification to it, as well as the concept of monetarily and thus tangibly quantifying exactly how much you are desired- a nice feeling to get really.

But for me, whoring was definitely more a spiritual calling and alternate source of income.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/9/2006 10:16:18 PM   
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Let me get this straight: A male sub who is presumably straight gets whored out to give blowjobs? Is the other guy straight or gay? Would a gay male sub then be forced not to give blowjobs? Or a lesbian sub be made to give blowjobs? Would her recipient gay or straight?

My head aches. Being a straight dom makes life so much simpler. 'Scuse me, I've got to make my sub-F suck pussy.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/10/2006 7:15:47 PM   
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LA - Spirituality?  Man, I need to find a better religion!

Akasha,

The drive to activities like 'whoring' seem to have a few, specific drives.  As LA suggestion, one is objectification - the sub exists simply for the pleasure and use of the owner.  The charging of money additionally reduces one's sexuality, intimacy, and privacy into a commodity to be used, abused, and humiliated.  Obviously, the type of man who can afford a Dominatrix capable of arranging such a scenario isn't concerned about the five bucks - it's being told that he's only worth five bucks that gives him the thrill.  The forced homosexuality simply adds further insult to injury - the ultimate male degradation, if you will.

Women, on the other hand, are more likely to experience this sort of commoditization very early on in life, when they first learn about arranged marriages, I would think.  Also, I found that women with such low self-esteems that give way to this type of fetish were more likely to end up in strip clubs anyway - actually making money from their actual assets, as opposed to a wealthy businessman paying a dominatrix a hefty fee for the experience.

But that's just my take on it.


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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/10/2006 7:22:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Voltare
LA - Spirituality?  Man, I need to find a better religion!


Absolutely.  The archetype of the "sacred prostitute" predates Judeo-Xtian culture.  I applaud that historical institution and feel that it reflects a FAR heathier attitude towards sex and sexuality than the sex-negative, unhealthy attitude currently perpetuated.

I enjoy the fantasy of "pimping out" a male sub to other tops, and I've done some fun scenarios on that theme.   Obviously there are safety issues as well as legal issues that make it inadvisable to take this game too far into reality, but much fun can be had at a kinky party with Monopoly money and friendly co-conspirators. 

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/10/2006 8:22:13 PM   
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There are folks who do this.  One Dom in VA has a "stable" of girls that he "whores out" to other Doms in trade for their girl(s), like a swap meet or something.  Daddy was telling me about this guy once and I told Him I just couldn't believe it (naive), then we met one of his girls at a party and, sure enough...  Just isn't my thing, and thank goodness, it isn't Daddy's either.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/11/2006 11:43:10 AM   
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ah...this used to be a rather hot fantasy of mine, being "whored out" to strangers by my Mate/Master. what attracted me to it was the (perceived) humiliation, total objectification, just being a piece of *ss to be used by any man who had the cash. i never wanted the actual money, not for myself anyway. it was important that i not simply be a whore, but be actively whored out, by someone else who was in total control.

well this fantasy pretty much died once i experienced the real thing. the first time i was whored out it was an awful experience in a vanilla sense (guy was smelly, goofy). the second time the person was just completely sadistic and i left him barely able to walk or stand upright. it became a regular part of life, and something that i began to dread. not the being used by strangers...i was long used to that, and saw it as a natural thing. but with money being in the picture it made things different...i felt all this additional pressure to be "perfect", and to bear any and everything without the slightest complaint, because in my mind they needed to get their "money's worth". sometimes i would unexplicably break down in despair, crying my heart out, right before i was to see a customer. it had some very unexpected emotional effects on me.
after a while my Master, for various reasons, tired of whoring me out, and things went back to normal...i'm "slutted" out for free. :)
not that i'll never be a whore again...i'm sure i will, but it's no longer something i find "hot" to think about, tho i can certainly understand why it may be like that for others.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/11/2006 12:03:39 PM   
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I have had this fantasy in the past, but after sort of living the life of a "free whore" for a few months, it's pretty much the farthest thing from my mind.  I have thought of such things in the very recent past though for a bit of income, but not sure if it came down to it if I could do it or not.
 
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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/11/2006 12:10:55 PM   
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I've had many variations on this type of fantasy (in fantasy, only, have yet to act any out in real life). One fantasy has me being the "prize" or bet in a poker game. As others have all said, for me, it's the humiliation, the objectification, and the reaffirming that I am truly an object or possession to be used however my owner wants.
This is one of those hot fantasies that I don't know if I ever want to really play out in real life, especially after reading some of the other posts on this subject. But I'm more into 'roleplay' and fantasy as my kink.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/11/2006 12:14:04 PM   
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I was never whored out for pure money but both times I have been owned they were not monogamous relationships and my owners completely controlled who would have physical relations with me. Outside of swinging, which is the most loosely of the definition, it was very rarely and mostly for a favor or a gift that it happen.

For my experience, which I understand is not 100% direct; it is a very strong objectification situation. Now that type of play I am strongly into but even for me is was very tough to handle. I found nothing more powerful in demonstrating the TPE relationship I was in then the power over my sex my owner’s had. I do not think it made my relationships either stronger or weaker because of it. I sometimes enjoyed it and sometimes just got thru it and that had nothing to do with the sex. It always required major aftercare after it was done and was probably the closest thing I have ever seriously thought about in making a limit in that type of play.


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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/11/2006 12:28:19 PM   
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This is one thing I have never been at all interested in. There might come a time where Sir wants me used by another, but it would be scrictly negotiated between the two of them I'm sure.

I'm not sure how i would react to be honest. I think my biggest issue would be the fear of having Him view me differently or badly. As well as the tole it might take on my own selfesteem.

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/11/2006 5:09:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I've heard so much about the fantasy of being "whored out" for a person's dominant partner.  Mostly I hear about this from men wanting to be "whored out for cash" by their femdom partners, but I imagine this might exist in the femsub world as well.  These fantasies are often complex and include the man being dressed up, humiliated, forced to service men (even though the sub is straight) sexually.  It can be something like "forced to give blow jobs to men for $5" at a party or something more complex -- being turned into a streetwalker and actually "pimped out" by the femdom.

Do subs who have this desire also find an attraction to doing it online, on cam? In other words, if a femdom had a few male partners that wanted to see a man jerking off, how would that sub feel if she whored him out and charged money for it, money that he did not see?

I'm curious how many male fantasies like this (ones that are logistically and from a safety standpoint hard to pull together in real life) are attractive to subs on a smaller, more realistic scale. Or, is the extreme, even absurd (and thereby safe, because of the unlikely nature of it happening but the ability to talk, plan, review endlessly) nature of it that makes it attractive?

Akasha


I probably shouldn't be answering this tonight as my mood is not the best but...sometimes, you do things you shouldn't.

I am curious to see what the responses will be to the above...particularly the part where the straight male is forced to exhibit himself/service other men...and to see what thoughts are about what should be done for the working sub afterwards in terms of aftercare, consideration of his thoughts and haunting feelings about doing another male for the pleasure and monetary gain of his dominant and compare those posts to those made to the femsub after her well-discussed and agreed-upon and willing liaison with another female for the pleasure...though not monetary gain...of her dominant...as well as, hopefully, herself.

Or am I comparing apples to oranges here, given that the OP is mentioning a specific fantasy on the part of the submissive whereas the other instance involved the fantasy of the dominant?

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RE: The desire to be "whored out" - 12/11/2006 6:00:04 PM   
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I have fullfilled this desire in a past sub, it was good at first and then everything came crashing down. It ended up destroying the relationship and a month later after she found a new Dom she sent be a long nasty email that I keep to this day to remind myself that I am not infallible and that I cannot control someones emotions. Some things are just best left as a fantasy.

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