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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 8:36:08 AM

daddysprop247

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Is that safe.........I mean cleaning him off with your mouth after anal? Can't you get like Hepititis from that? (Maybe I'm thinking of something else)

I can get it if he has it, but he doesn't have it, so no.

Yes there are always risks any time there is rimming or any ass to mouth activity (bacterias, parasites, etc.). It's a risk he is willing to take with me. I'm always pretty flushed out (enemas) prior to him using my ass, but even if I weren't, what he wants in my mouth goes in my mouth.

*sitting here nodding* exactly. if they say lick the toilet bowl sparkly clean, that's what we do. i stopped thinking/worrying about health risks years ago.

but i'm a bit envious of you og...that you're able to enjoy or at least be comfortable with anal. for me the entire experience is always painful...yes, the initial entry and then the withdrawal are the worst parts...but all the stuff in between is pretty hard for me to deal with too. i blame it on Daddy's cock...it's just NOT meant for anal, lol.

and all those saying lube lube lube....i don't know, but lube has never been this magical stuff for me. it can make the penetration smoother for the Dominant, but for me it makes no difference whatsoever as far as the pain or in helping me stretch to accomodate penetration.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 8:42:44 AM

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*sitting here nodding* exactly. if they say lick the toilet bowl sparkly clean, that's what we do. i stopped thinking/worrying about health risks years ago.

but i'm a bit envious of you og...that you're able to enjoy or at least be comfortable with anal. for me the entire experience is always painful...yes, the initial entry and then the withdrawal are the worst parts...but all the stuff in between is pretty hard for me to deal with too. i blame it on Daddy's cock...it's just NOT meant for anal, lol.

and all those saying lube lube lube....i don't know, but lube has never been this magical stuff for me. it can make the penetration smoother for the Dominant, but for me it makes no difference whatsoever as far as the pain or in helping me stretch to accomodate penetration.

The people in question have to be willing to take the time to apply the correct amount both on the outside and the inside of the anus. However this slighty time consuming activity is also good for the health of one's property. Doing so with a few fingers provides a nice moment of loosening the walls and makes it less likely for his penis to rip the walls, reducing the risk of infection.

Edited to add: This also depends on the type of lub you are using. You've got to get the good stuff or it's just not going to work.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 8:55:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247
but i'm a bit envious of you og...that you're able to enjoy or at least be comfortable with anal. for me the entire experience is always painful...yes, the initial entry and then the withdrawal are the worst parts...but all the stuff in between is pretty hard for me to deal with too. i blame it on Daddy's cock...it's just NOT meant for anal, lol.

It was necessary for me to learn to like it. Not an easy thing to learn, however, and I still get nervously whimpery when it's about to happen. The hardest is when he orders me to straddle him and sit down on it, pushing it in myself. There is something much easier when it is "forced" on me. I think that's why he doesn't bind me much- he likes my struggle to remain still rather then helping me to remain still with bindings. But there's a lot of mind-over-matter that goes on with anal, and the ass can actually self lube if you work at it hard enough. Surprised the hell out of me but go figure.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 9:05:21 AM

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*sitting here nodding* exactly. if they say lick the toilet bowl sparkly clean, that's what we do. i stopped thinking/worrying about health risks years ago.

but i'm a bit envious of you og...that you're able to enjoy or at least be comfortable with anal. for me the entire experience is always painful...yes, the initial entry and then the withdrawal are the worst parts...but all the stuff in between is pretty hard for me to deal with too. i blame it on Daddy's cock...it's just NOT meant for anal, lol.

and all those saying lube lube lube....i don't know, but lube has never been this magical stuff for me. it can make the penetration smoother for the Dominant, but for me it makes no difference whatsoever as far as the pain or in helping me stretch to accomodate penetration.

The people in question have to be willing to take the time to apply the correct amount both on the outside and the inside of the anus. However this slighty time consuming activity is also good for the health of one's property. Doing so with a few fingers provides a nice moment of loosening the walls and makes it less likely for his penis to rip the walls, reducing the risk of infection.

Edited to add: This also depends on the type of lub you are using. You've got to get the good stuff or it's just not going to work.

i was not referring to being health or safety conscious, but speaking purely of the physical discomfort factor, which imo lube (which the rare times is used, is only one particular hard to find but high quality kind) does nothing to ease. my own health or safety are not things i take into consideration.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 9:09:01 AM

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It was necessary for me to learn to like it. Not an easy thing to learn, however, and I still get nervously whimpery when it's about to happen. The hardest is when he orders me to straddle him and sit down on it, pushing it in myself. There is something much easier when it is "forced" on me. I think that's why he doesn't bind me much- he likes my struggle to remain still rather then helping me to remain still with bindings. But there's a lot of mind-over-matter that goes on with anal, and the ass can actually self lube if you work at it hard enough. Surprised the hell out of me but go figure.

that's true about the self-lube...that would happen sometimes in the first year or so when i was being anally trained. but these days blood and spit pretty much provide most of the lubrication. kudos on learning to enjoy it...that this was something you had to learn and didn't just happen naturally only impresses me that much more. maybe one day i will get there (hey, stranger things have happened)?

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 9:21:30 AM

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Here are my thoughts.
Firstly it's down to trust.
Knowing that your Dom/me will never harm you.
That they will always make absolutely sure that they are responsible enough not to take any serious risks with you because they care for you.
Trusting them to get it right for you and themselves.
Everyone messes up on some things. Noone is perfect. But noone should mess up that bad.
Anyone who is planning a consensual rape should damn well make sure that they know what they are doing.
Physically, psychologically and emotionally.
And if you succumb to pressure from your sub then you are not dominant in the relationship.
She or he has you by the balls and they probably know it.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 10:19:30 AM

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Thank you all for the advice, and thank you Eric for sharing.

I had been raped before, vaginally..and we did that type of scene. It went well, so we thought of expanding to this. My main fear was ripping and damage, I know that Master would never want to hurt me like that.

I would rather have the "hot fantasy" ruined by lube, than by a doctors visit or worse..Master agrees.

Lube, lube, lube... got it..

Kasha

Sorry about that. Thank you, ERIN for sharing... that's what I get for typing replies while I am trying to fix Master breakfast.

Kasha

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 10:27:17 AM

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that would happen sometimes in the first year or so when i was being anally trained. but these days blood and spit pretty much provide most of the lubrication.

Goodness, you actually made me hurt with this statement. It's not really a wonder you don't like or enjoy it at all. I am not judging you, hun...it just made me cringe for you a lot.

I know that when Master and I did anal the first time together, I did a lot of bleeding afterward. He felt awful and since then always makes sure it's ready for entry. I think in some ways maybe he is the one that's more anal shy than I am now. There are times when I want nothing more than to be beaten good and taken anally. It's possible he is a bit nervous about hurting me again, I am not sure.

Thank you all, again... and I agree, MistressTexas, the last thing I want is to end up in the hospital over this... more-so in the conservative town we live in... wouldn't want to have to explain..lol.

Kasha

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 10:37:05 AM

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I havent really done rape but have done forced. She didnt know that she was going to get it and I put the lube on myself not on her although she did have some moisture from her own wetness and oral however that was only on the outside. She really didnt complain at all and it was a really wild scene. Anal sex is something she has come to really love but I have worked really hard to get her their and I have a whole bunch of stuff I go through to turn a woman on to the concept of anal so that they will enjoy and look forward to it as well as methods that make it as painless as posible. I have actually seen woman go from 'no way I hate that' to 'please please take my....' in less than a year. Its all fun and good.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 1:22:50 PM

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Yep Ive done this with my submale and he kinda sorta knew ahead of time without My going into a lot of detail. I just said wear old clothes, meet me at this motel at this time and be prepared for anything.

We met up at a sleazy motel (I had gotten there before he did and setup in the room).
I watched for him to park then met him in the parking lot with a big shiny sharp knife and "forced" him to go with me into one of the rooms. I told him he was my slut for the night and if he screamed, Id cut out his damn tongue. I cut off his clothes with a My knife sharp knife and then threatened to whack off his balls if he didn't do what I wanted him too. I had the video camera going as I forced him to dress up like a hooker and then I "tortured" him. Then I *raped* him several times. So...he loved it hehe and yes I used lube on the strapon.

It was a really fun roleplay.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 3:32:59 PM

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Yes there are always risks any time there is rimming or any ass to mouth activity (bacterias, parasites, etc.). It's a risk he is willing to take with me. I'm always pretty flushed out (enemas) prior to him using my ass, but even if I weren't, what he wants in my mouth goes in my mouth.
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I'm pretty saddened by what I've read on this thread from some......."it's a risk HE's willing to take" YOUR HEALTH is something HE'S willing to risk....well that tells me a lot.

My health is one of the things my Master is VERY responsible for and something I trust that is in his best interest. Yes..I am his slave...but I'm a mother dammit....and that's VERY important to me..to be there for my child....HEALTHY. I really think you should educate yourself...you could get a serious infection from bacteria from YOUR ass being transfered by his cock to your mouth. I'm so angry I could spit.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 5:50:58 PM

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Enjoy my friend, enjoy. What tells you a lot tells you nothing, actually, so please don't cry for me, Argentina, as I am just fine, really. No really. ;)

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 6:18:21 PM

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Greetings, i'm going to have to agree with daddysprop and ownedgirlie on this one a rape scene really is not a rape scene because you can't rape your own property when it belongs to you. i have been anal raped on many occasions by my Master and have had to lick Him clean afterwards and thank Him, so i can relate. No lube was used in any of these times not even some spit. This may not be the life of all slaves but it is the life of this one.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 6:33:45 PM

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I love anal force and rape scenes, it is just so primal and taboo it sends me back to my weak girlie self. There is something about anal pain that gets my head right. On a side note I am disheartened by some of the statements made about how others live their lives or how their Owner/Master/Daddy see fit to use Their property. To each their own, we live how we see fit to live and should be accepted not insulted.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/12/2006 6:57:29 PM

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I love anally forcing and "raping" the subs I have had, and each of them liked or disliked it to various degrees. I also told each of them at the beginning of the relationship that I enjoy anal sex and whether they wanted it or not, they would have to eventually succomb to anal training and then penetration. And I agree that the scene leading up to the rape really can make it more terrifying, if it is the culmination of punishment for example.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/13/2006 12:57:10 AM

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This is something i am curious about and i have talked to Master about this.....it seems to be in his future plans. I love it when he gives me the so wonderful and wicked smiles. I will surely take into consideration what needs to be done before hand as i am sure Master will too

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/13/2006 1:04:25 AM

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lateralist1 -

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"And if you succumb to pressure from your sub then you are not dominant in the relationship. She or he has you by the balls and they probably know it."

Won't go into all the dirty details, but you're right - about that particular night anyway. Believe me - it WON'T happen again - ever. Any attempt in that direction again with me will leave a sub/switch/male with his head through the wall or an "Elana Bobbit" done - MY choice. <grin>

To All the Other Posters:
Although I usually try to keep my nose out of other's lifestyle choices, I'm very saddened to read of any Dominant not caring for the health and safety of their property - I thought that was one of our responsibilities - nuf said.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/13/2006 2:40:08 AM

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Hi Middy!!!!

good to see you -welcome to the boards

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/13/2006 8:14:29 AM

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I'm very saddened to read of any Dominant not caring for the health and safety of their property - I thought that was one of our responsibilities.

There seems to be a dearth of caring and responsibility this month.

Read the clitoris thread.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/13/2006 9:26:27 AM

Driver1961

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He enters,dips His lid saddened...

I am trying to have some acceptance of other Dominants actions on this thread rather than judge.

I may be D/s rather than Master/slave orientated and it is because of what is here in some of these posts that I stereotypically considered Master/slave rights as objectionable and something I wish not to be associated with.

Where is consentuality in these repeated actions? Because a nilla rape victim complys for personal survival there is consent? Why is it any different here? Is daddysprop complying simply for the survival of this relationship.

How many that submit to this mentally destroying treatment are actually being self-empowered, guided in their personal growth?

"but i'm a bit envious of you og...that you're able to enjoy or at least be comfortable with anal. for me the entire experience is always painful...yes, the initial entry and then the withdrawal are the worst parts...but all the stuff in between is pretty hard for me to deal with too. i blame it on Daddy's cock...it's just NOT meant for anal, lol. "

I am 'daddy like' and since when is it acceptable for a daddy to punish/subject their girls with frequent violent sexual behaviour for their own personal sexual gratification? "Daddysprop'- you should not be envious of another achieving satisfaction from something that is done as mutual excitment when yours is domination with mutation or stunting of your personal growth. I look upon my Precious with equality outside of our BDSM play which means that own D/s roles translate into equality within play- makes sense to us anyways.

I punished my Precious recently with anal sex. Yes it was punishment and her body behaved as it normally does during Anal (which she loves with me) I took her silence to be acceptance of her punishment, but unfortunately she had 'shut down' - compliance like a nilla rape victim. We are still working through the rammifications of this- which is why I am very saddened (if not mortified) by your apparent acceptance of far more brutal behaviour than I would ever undertake for the sake of submissive education. The mind is a wondrous thing, it is my utmost pleasure to re-open my Precious's mind to the power of herself and what relationships can contain. Her trust in submitting to me to protect her from 'far past' mental anguish and stimulate her personal growth is a gift that I treasure and yearn to develop appropriately in her growth.

Your more recent post (which I won't quote primarily cos of personal anger) questions where your 'Daddy' is enhancing your psychological wellbeing.

We all can exhibit remorse for our actions- particularly me with my recent well-considered and justified but ultimately negative action- but to apparently continue with further anal domination and blame the other for not enjoying it begs criminality to me.

To daddysprop DADDY I wonder what your expanation of justification for these actions is?

I have never felt as saddened reading any post on collarme as daddysprop's and suggest that you speak over some of your issues with a professional to obtain some clarification of what is good for your own phsychological wellbeing.

I would be disgusted if any of my nilla friends (in the know of my D/s leanings) was to read this thread and consider it representative of my actions to those that entrust themselves to my care.

Ok dissenters, go and ahead and educate please on why I am wrong in posting these judgements.I obviously am missing something?

Driver1961, Sir to His loving Wildchild.

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