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ORIGINAL: Rover


Interesting though, if I'm not mistaken, Arabia and Persia are distinctly different than the Orient.

John

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

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ORIGINAL: Rover


Interesting though, if I'm not mistaken, Arabia and Persia are distinctly different than the Orient.

John

Depends. Until fairly recently in history the "Orient" could include anything east Greece. For the Roman Greece is somethings boxed up in the same category as the Near East and farther east depending on what they are bitching about in their literature.

There's a divide of Oriental and Occidental -- or East and West -- popular in most pre-modern western literature. We divide things up more I think because we are more aware of differences between cultures.

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ORIGINAL: Rover

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

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ORIGINAL: Rover


Interesting though, if I'm not mistaken, Arabia and Persia are distinctly different than the Orient.

John

Depends. Until fairly recently in history the "Orient" could include anything east Greece. For the Roman Greece is somethings boxed up in the same category as the Near East and farther east depending on what they are bitching about in their literature.

There's a divide of Oriental and Occidental -- or East and West -- popular in most pre-modern western literature. We divide things up more I think because we are more aware of differences between cultures.

Not to be perceived as slicing hairs, but most people west of Turkey see the "Middle East" (for example). And it's those "Middle Eastern" cultures themselves that have (centuries old) divisions such as "Persian" and "Arab". For them, it is a deep and meaningful distinction both historically and today.

If I'm not mistaken, the same can be said about the "Far East" including the Japanese, Chinese, Mongolians, Koreans, etc.

I've always been under the impression that their distinctions are significantly more numerous, and historical, than our Western distinctions for the same region.

John

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

juliet...will you call mine too?  He may be a bit more open to it if you tell him.

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ORIGINAL: dawntreader

i am interested in people's thoughts on this:

"Recently, another style of consensual slave-play has emerged. It is called "Code d' Odalisque". This is a rewriting of the ancient sex slave traditions of the Orient. It is a male dominant/ female submissive style in which a woman voluntarily plays the role of willing sex slave to a male Slavekeeper who uses her for his sexual gratification. This is a non-Sado-masochism style - the woman is kept as an exclusive pleasure slave. Nor is she a beast of burden. In the ancient exotic traditions of the East attractive female slaves were selected to serve as sex slaves in the Sultan's harem. They were saved from toil and their beauty preserved as they are put to a life of pleasure. Such slaves are called "odalisques" (a French version of a Turkish word.) An odalisque is a female sexual servant."
http://au.geocities.com/silkenways/introd.html

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

that was pretty fuckin cool.

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ORIGINAL: blmtrsne

Sounds interesting. But why only a harem for a man? I can imagine a wealthy woman wanting her proper love slaves by the hand. Let's castrate the guys and develop a device to get their penis hard whenever electronically switched on. It should only be a matter of blocking a few blood-vessols so the blood stays in the penis... Seems man get to be so much nicer when they are treated this way...

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ORIGINAL: dawntreader

i am interested in people's thoughts on this:

"Recently, another style of consensual slave-play has emerged. It is called "Code d' Odalisque". This is a rewriting of the ancient sex slave traditions of the Orient. It is a male dominant/ female submissive style in which a woman voluntarily plays the role of willing sex slave to a male Slavekeeper who uses her for his sexual gratification. This is a non-Sado-masochism style - the woman is kept as an exclusive pleasure slave. Nor is she a beast of burden. In the ancient exotic traditions of the East attractive female slaves were selected to serve as sex slaves in the Sultan's harem. They were saved from toil and their beauty preserved as they are put to a life of pleasure. Such slaves are called "odalisques" (a French version of a Turkish word.) An odalisque is a female sexual servant."
http://au.geocities.com/silkenways/introd.html

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ORIGINAL: nephandi

Yes Master Nosatrhro, there ofen were slaves in harems, though not all harm women was sex slaves or even slaves at all and most did not tipptoe around in pretty dresses.

One side note to if you aalow Master. In many parts of the world curtisans was the most free of women, expensive prostitutes and companions for hire that could use the money they erned to live free of a man`s control, so most of them were far som slaves.