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Doctors - 2/23/2005 10:51:46 AM

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I thought this was too serious for the Humor section....

Doctors:

(A) The number of doctors in the U.S. is 700,000

(B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are 120,000

(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 17.14%

Statistics courtesy of the U.S. Dept of Health & Human Services

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Guns:

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000 (yes that's 80 million)

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500

(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.001875%

Statistics courtesy of the FBI

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So statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

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Remember, guns don't kill people, doctors do.

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FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

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Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!

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Out of concern for the public at large, I have withheld statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention.

RE: Doctors - 2/23/2005 10:55:28 AM

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Thanks for the giggle.

I would love to share this information with the physicians I work with, but somehow I don't think they would find it very amusing...

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RE: Doctors - 2/23/2005 11:06:28 AM

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doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Isn"t that the truth!!!!!!

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RE: Doctors - 2/23/2005 3:17:40 PM

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There are Drs. who graduate at the top of their class and those who graduate at the bottom of their class. Do you know what they call the person who graduates last in the class? The one who just squeaked by? Doctor. Never take their word as law. Always question. They'd like you to think they are perfect and infallible. In reality, I've had a Dr give me conflicting drugs on the same prescription paper. The pharmacist caught it and called the dr to get something else. Sigh.

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RE: Doctors - 2/23/2005 4:27:47 PM

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So statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Guess this also explains why I am infinitely more comfortable in a room full of guns as opposed to a room full of doctors......lol.

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RE: Doctors - 2/23/2005 7:18:19 PM

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So statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Guess this also explains why I am infinitely more comfortable in a room full of guns as opposed to a room full of doctors......lol.

I second that!

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RE: Doctors - 2/23/2005 7:55:32 PM

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I've had a Dr give me conflicting drugs on the same prescription paper. The pharmacist caught it and called the dr to get something else. Sigh.

That s why the pharmacies check through all the drugs you get now through a computer program it finds dangerous interactions. I have had pharmacists call back doctors that have written prescriptions like and make them change it.

I have heard a lot of horror stories about bad doctors or accidents in hospitals. That’s stuff is scary to think about.

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RE: Doctors - 2/24/2005 4:57:00 AM

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I have always believed the pharmacist was far more knowledgeable and thorough than the physician.

My theory is that just like any other job, some projects are more interesting than others. When you present with something that piques the physician's interest, I think you get far better care than when you show up with something less interesting, or at least the symptoms of some disease that mimick something less interesting.

Jaded and cynical and collared by an doc. Welcome to my life as an enigma.

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RE: Doctors - 2/24/2005 8:41:13 AM

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I love it, thanks for posting!

Reminds me of a joke I heard once:

What is the difference between a doctor and God?

God doesn't think he's a doctor.

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RE: Doctors - 2/24/2005 12:58:26 PM

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quote:

(A) The number of doctors in the U.S. is 700,000

(B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are 120,000

If i did the math right that's about 402 people in the US per doctor according to the 2000 census (281,421,906). Of those 402 per doctor about 69 will be killed by the doc's mistakes. I know some docs are worse than others, but i find that hard to believe.

I guess we're all lucky to be alive.

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RE: Doctors - 2/24/2005 1:18:33 PM

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If i did the math right that's about 402 people in the US per doctor according to the 2000 census (281,421,906).

proud,
Your math is right, but remember, even if they are retired, exclusive to research, or exclusive to teaching, they are still Doctors per the AMA. If you take all those out of the equation, the number would be more realistic. But it still puts some at the same level of Jeffery Dalmer doesn't it?

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RE: Doctors - 2/24/2005 2:05:44 PM

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I got a pretty good chuckle from this, but what are the statistics on intentional gun related deaths? (I'm a gun owner, so please don't think I'm trying to start a 2nd amendment argument.)

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RE: Doctors - 2/24/2005 2:06:19 PM

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But it still puts some at the same level of Jeffery Dalmer doesn't it?

It's just plain scary.

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RE: Doctors - 2/24/2005 3:42:22 PM

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So statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

I knew it!! Soooooooooooooo, I'm not paranoid huh? OK, maybe a little, but that's beside the point.

I don't go to doctors, I don't recomend doctors and as a profession, I can't stand them. Of everyone I know that goes to the doctor on a regular basis, none of them are healthy! In fact, most of them are dying! I have one friend that goes to fourteen (yes that's 14) different doctors and takes an amazing number of pills daily just to stay alive... or so they tell him. In just a short five years he went from a picture of health to sitting at deaths door.

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RE: Doctors - 2/27/2005 10:16:52 PM

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To tell you the truth, I hate doctors. But on the flipside, I plan to be one. There are doctors that are completely incompetent, I agree, but there are also those that are truly attempting to do good work, and succeed. There are some that use the profession for their one personal gain only, and there are those that hold medicine as an almost sacred practice. I believe that the time in which doctors become dangerous is when they become 1) Overstressed 2) Narrowminded 3) Uninformed 4) Overconfident.

The first is unavoidable; the number of doctors to patients is actually quite low in some areas of the country. The second is brought on by the medical schools themselves which tend not to teach anything regarding or even resembling herbal medicine, holistic medicine, acupuncture, or the like. These are practices that should be included in every doctors "toolbox" so to speak. The third is due to laziness on the physicians part; practicing medicine should be a never ending learning process involving the study of new innovations and techniques on a daily basis. The fourth, and suppose the third as well, can be attributed to an attitude that doctors seem to attain some time after reaching their position; not all doctors have this attitude, the good ones ask questions.

There also seems to be a trend of a failing bedside manner in the medical profession. Many doctors have stopped treating patients as people and instead see them as slabs of , in most cases defective, meat. This disgusts me, because everyone deserves some dignity especially when they are ill.

I cannot defend the number of accidental deaths that occur each year as a result of the medical profession, but doctors are completely necessary and many do good work. The remedy to this medical conundrum is for doctors to care more about the patients. In my opinion, the ones that do are the good ones.

Just my two cents on the subject.

-Ray-

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RE: Doctors - 3/1/2005 12:55:22 PM

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just goes to show one can never take anything at face value...

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RE: Doctors - 3/1/2005 7:54:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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If i did the math right that's about 402 people in the US per doctor according to the 2000 census (281,421,906).

proud,
Your math is right, but remember, even if they are retired, exclusive to research, or exclusive to teaching, they are still Doctors per the AMA. If you take all those out of the equation, the number would be more realistic. But it still puts some at the same level of Jeffery Dalmer doesn't it?

i also have to wonder what the criteria are for deaths directly caused by doctors. Is that, doctor prescribed a toxic drug combination and patient died, or, doctor did their best during surgery, patient died, and greedy family sued? Sometimes terrible things happen and it's not anyone's "fault". Some of the "malpractice" cases i have heard of are just ridiculous.... ie Terry Schiavo, the woman in Florida in the vegatative state, her family sued her gynocologist (and won) because she had a heard attack due to bulemia. i suppose the idea there is that all gynocologists should screen all women for the electrolyte imbalances that come with bulemia, "just in case".

i don't know if that kind of thinking has anything to do with the numbers here, just an idea.

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RE: Doctors - 3/7/2005 7:05:33 PM

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Merc that was a great read after the post i did!!!

Thanks for the laugh and may i have permission to share it with others?

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RE: Doctors - 3/7/2005 8:00:57 PM

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Merc that was a great read after the post i did!!!

Thanks for the laugh and may i have permission to share it with others?

Sure!

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RE: Doctors - 3/7/2005 8:49:58 PM

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Noscomial infections are caused by the hospital, i.e. it's a bug that shows up while you are an inpatient and you didn't come in with it. Hospital noscomial rates are readily available on any hospital. It's not protected info. So have some fun and call your insurance company or the local hospital and ask them what's their incidence rate. Most likely you'll get a choking noise on the other side. I strongly believe in being an informed consumer when it comes to the medical field. If you swindle me on a car deal, I'm out some money. If you pull the wool over my eyes in the medical field you're cheating me outta days!!!

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