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Physical punishment & its effects - 1/1/2007 8:41:35 AM   
ursunshine


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Does anyone know what the long term effects of repeated hard spankings, whippings, beatings, etc. are on the skin? As a slave who considers beatings  an essential part of my relationship and life I need frequent hard physical punishment and play but my dom is concerned that over time it will create a callous or hardening of the skin. It makes sense that that would happen. He doesn't want to ruin my body in any way and I don't either but what would a slave do without her pain? He's mentioned using a tens unit. Any advice or experience in this area?
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RE: Physical punishment & its effects - 1/1/2007 8:47:19 AM   
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As a person with medical background...i advise staying away from the TENS without "Proper" instruction on it's use.  The violet wand is a little safer. as far as beatings, whippings etc...1) skin elasticity depends on age 2) does the area completely heal between whippings 3) is the skin broken 4) do you buff the skin when showering an apply moisturizer.   

Keep the skin from breaking and drawing blood...keep the area free of old skin and moisturized and as long as you are still young...there should be no problems.

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RE: Physical punishment & its effects - 1/1/2007 4:58:13 PM   
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The body is designed to heal itself. Scars can happen from open wounds, and one should take care of themselves with a healthy regard for healing and health as if one were an athlete. Bruises and redness goes away. Where you are bound, care should be taken not to cause nerve damage.

Take good vitamins, drink water, and maintain your fitness level. Care for wounds with proper first aid and respect for your body - allow some healing between beatings. All common sense stuff. There will someday come a day when your age may determine that it's not appropriate that you do some kinds of play. Until then, make your playtime fun.

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RE: Physical punishment & its effects - 1/2/2007 4:31:49 AM   
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I was hit very hard about ten strokes with a cane once in July that's still affecting my ability to accept any blows on the outside of my right thigh.
I do have four permanent cane mark scars from it too.
The trick to knowing if your specific areas are ready for more impact is the color of your skin.
The area on my thigh even after five months has a light purple color in my complexion of the area of the thigh that bruised.
Last month I was hit by a flogger on that thigh as I though it just had to be healed even though there's this light shadow of the old bruise still there.
What happened is it bruised up severly and the blood of the bruise moved in a wave pattern all the way around my thigh to the front of my inner thigh.
My GYN is aware I'm kinky so I went and showed her what was going on.
She suggested when the skin returns to your normal shade then it will be healed, till then it's got to be a no strike zone as there's still tissue damage.
She said your vessles mostly heal right away, but more severe damage takes time to heal completely especially with compression impact like canes or other hard implements.
I ask how long it would take being it had already been 4 motnhs.
She said it varies from one person to another.
The advice I give you is to wait till your skin looks like it did before you were hit before you play there again.

Also I find if I get spanked hard too many weekends in a row my whole butt gets the purple parlor under the skin. People told me that's what leather butt is.
It took a month till my butt returned to a normal shade before I could have another spanking.

I know it's frustrating to wait but your health is way more important than fun.
Take good care of yourself and be VERY greatful you have a wise Master who knows your limits better than you do. You're lucky to have him.
suzanne

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RE: Physical punishment & its effects - 1/3/2007 5:51:20 AM   
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Firstly, Im a firm believer of preparing the area first; rubbing, massaging and moisturizing if need be.  Not only does this provide the opportunity to choose my target areas wisely (based on previous marks, bruises, etc) to avoid certain areas/activities temporarily, but also to make sure that the surface has sufficient bloodflow and nerves are "tweaked and ready".    Moisurtizer, especially oil, increases the propensity for added pain without added intensity, effort and ripping the skin.

Secondly, I advise having a squirt bottle with cold water handy to cool the skin surface as needed and moisturizer handy to reapply.  If during play, if I choose to NOT leave marks, I continue to massage the area intermittently to avoid bruising/welting.  If I choose to mark, I avoid those areas until the marks have disappeared.  However, if I see a specific, entire point of contact begin to "rise up," I deep rub that area to prevent the knotting of tissue and blood clotting.

Thirdly, as far as the outer thigh is concerned, I often opt for other areas such as the inner thigh because there is usually more fat in the area to absorb my blows.  In my opinion, a lean thigh offers risks of muscle damage but a meaty thigh never discourages me.

Also, I give my sub time to warm up by gradually increasing the intensity and/or starting out with sensual play, then working up to higher impact play.  If I see that a certain area is being worked too hard or too long, I either change my focus or my toy to accomodate.  Then, I gradually resume both when I see the surface returning to a safer point of impact.  This is also very exciting and anticipatory for both of us, especially when I use the element of surprise in working her body in such an alternating fashion, using a variation of toys over and over again, and changing up on intensity as well as target areas.  Almost like a mind-fuck.

Always have fun, enjoy and be safe.

LBO

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RE: Physical punishment & its effects - 1/7/2007 7:50:27 AM   
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Thanks Leather Bent One,
That was a very detailed answer.
The Dom I played heavy with did indeed ice my butt down after play as part of my after care.
Also, the night I got the most severe 3hr spanking of my life, he had a chiropractor friend waiting somewhere with a heavy duty laser machine.
After the laser treatment I only bruised minimally and it was gone in 5 days.
lol it was such a hard spanking I had bruises on my forehead from hitting the rungs of the ladder was tied to that lasted 3 weeks.
Ice and lasers definitely minimize bruises.
I whole heartedly agree warm ups and rubbing the areas after are also essential to how much heavy play my skin handles well.
suzanne

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