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BDSM05478 -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 4:19:36 PM)

I think if only femdoms were to post here this place would be deader than the switch area......




fyreredsub -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 4:36:57 PM)

Greetings Master Ron

IB is alive and doing well, matter of fact, she heard from Him yesterday.she will let Him know you were speaking of Him.

Greetings John Warren,

This girl did not mean respect by station alone.However, You are familiar enough with Gor to understand what she meant.She should have titled to 'Mistress'. Seems now she needs to apologize for improper wording.[&:]

She also meant that she would expect such a reaction or statement from a submissive not a Mistress as some Mistresses do require third from subs/slaves. This girls Mistress requires it of her and it is also used in contexts other than Gor.This one made her slaves, when she was a Domme, speak in third when begging for something long before she heard of Gor.

This fact alone threw her off and according to Gor protocol she would have done nothing wrong and no apology needed if it was a submissive as Free and slaves on Gor do have different rules and the Free are never wrong and even if they are it is not up to a slave to point it out.

this girl apologized to the Free when she realized The Mistress in question was offended by her even posting here just by the fact she is owned by a Gorean Master and Mistress as it would not be understood by non Goreans that a slave can not claim Gorean.

and
This one was not intentionally rude to anyone ,sub or slave,so she thought ,till reading a few moments ago.

Had she read she had been offensive to a slave as well she would have apologized even tho not required of her  by protocol for this is what would be the right thing to do as a person who would wish others to treat her in the same manner.

May she wish you well




MmakeMme -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 4:41:28 PM)

Heyyyyy ... yeah ... Iron Bear. Where is He?




mnottertail -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 5:02:05 PM)

He's on the dark side, I should write him and look him up





sharainks -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 5:11:02 PM)

I agree with another poster.  I don't think much about it because it doesn't interest me.  When I do think about it my main thought is always the same.  That is, I don't understand how someone can base a life or lifestyle on a series of sci-fi books.  then I stop thinking about it again.




LotusSong -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 5:55:13 PM)

An "apology" delivered in the manner of speaking that caused the unintended insult, then to address the person you are apologizing to in a Gorean reference of a "free woman" (another rather offensive concept) then embellishing it with a cloaked parting shot, really isn't much of an apology.
 
I do not expect an apology when one is speaking their sincere thoughts.  You have your opinions, I have mine.  As far as I'm concerned.. no harm, no foul.
 
I wish you well.
(or "Have a Nice Day" in Earth speak)




MmakeMme -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 5:55:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

He's on the dark side, I should write him and look him up




Him doesn't take long to write.

(I'd have put quotation marks around that but it ain't funny if I have to explain 'em.)




asubmissiveheart -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 6:15:08 PM)

I have read some of the "Gor" information available.  It reminds me of some of the comic books I used to read.




jthorne -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 6:18:31 PM)

Dear god, Najak, I love you more and more with each post you make on here. I just wanted to point that out.




gooddogbenji -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 6:23:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KaramelGoddess

How do you feel about Gor?



I fucking hate it.

Someone had to say it.  I don't actually, but it seemed like the wrong thing to say, and I was right here.

Yours,


benji




KaramelGoddess -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 6:36:49 PM)

LMAO!!!




jdtallfem -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 7:09:02 PM)

Well I used to be kind of neutural, since I didn't know much about it, but the more I read the more I lean more toward Benji's viewpoint, lol.




gooddogbenji -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 7:11:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jdtallfem

Well I used to be kind of neutural, since I didn't know much about it, but the more I read the more I lean more toward Benji's viewpoint, lol.


What, the viewpoint of integrating random swearing into otherwise decent smartassery?

Cuz the view from here is great!

Yours,


benji

Edited because my comment is not in any way better for the insertion of random letters.

Some things you have to learn the hard way....




Najakcharmer -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 7:27:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub
This girl did not mean respect by station alone. However, You are familiar enough with Gor to understand what she meant.She should have titled to 'Mistress'. Seems now she needs to apologize for improper wording.[&:]


Hi Fyre.  While I respect that your D/s relationship has you following certain rules, not everyone outside a Gorean forum wants to be addressed as Master or Mistress by subs or slaves who don't belong to them.  So I wouldn't agree that it is "proper" in a social sense to do that.  Basically if you wouldn't do it to the librarian or the bank teller, it might not be a good idea to do it to random dude or dudette on a BDSM forum, because their consent cannot be assumed.  Mostly you risk annoying people on a BDSM forum if you use "slave speak" directly at them, just as it would if you were to do it with folks who aren't in the scene at all.  We generally prefer to just talk plainly and not make distinctions based on roles when we are just talking casually to strangers. 

Your personal preferences may vary of course, but it's probably a good thing to remember the adage about doing as the Romans do when in Rome.   If you bow in America or grab people's hands for shaking in Japan, people tend to look at you funny, and socializing doesn't go nearly as smoothly.  It's up to your Master of course, but may I ask you to convey this to him and ask for his perspective on the subject? 

The short form explanation of why I personally feel uncomfortable with open displays of submission from subs or slaves who don't belong to me is that it triggers reactions in me that are inappropriate with strangers.  Specifically, if I accept someone's submission I become responsible for their safety and well being at least in that time and place, and I don't consent to accept that responsibility for people I don't know.  It also reminds me of some bad experiences with very rude HNG's who literally drooled on my shoes and used me as a nonconsenting fetish object for their fantasies.  Other people's reasons for being uncomfortable with submission from strangers may vary, but might also include the feeling that D/s is something deeply intimate, personal, sexual and special to them, and something they wish to reserve for their private relationships.

Thanks for your understanding.  I'm sorry that what I'm reading as your real and sincere attempt at courtesy seems to be going misunderstood. 




KaramelGoddess -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 7:39:41 PM)

Beautifully said Najak, you are indeed wise.  Thanks for your insightful and respectful posts.
 
~Kara




dcnovice -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 8:01:55 PM)

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I rather much live in an Amazon world.


Me too. All those wonderful books!




scratchingpost -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 8:18:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KaramelGoddess

This may have been asked before...
 
How do you Ladies feel about the fictitious planet of Gor where women are considered less than men, and submissive men are considered less than nothing?
 
I am having trouble wrapping My head around it.  Perhaps someone can clarify it better for Me so I will be able to understand.
 
~Kara


after being married to a gorean for a decade or so i have come to the conclusion Gor is best left in books...then again i might be jaded since he used Gor as a means to be a manipulative control freak and have an excuse to be an abuser. i HAVE heard of some goreans who are actually quite nice and do not subscribe to the nonsense of the books but rather their own take of D/s so my opinion is this...if it works great but be careful that it is not used as an excuse to hurt someone in a "bad" way just like any bdsm activity




mnottertail -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 8:26:26 PM)

This could easily be said with Carried a copy of the Loving Dominant under his arm in place of the word Gorean.........

I don't know what one has in common with the other.

Ron




dcnovice -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 8:36:27 PM)

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How do you feel about Gor?


Well, he got robbed in Florida, of course. Then again, he never should have let the election get that close. Never got around to seeing his movie, though I've heard good things about it.




gooddogbenji -> RE: How do you feel about Gor? (1/2/2007 8:39:16 PM)

That's Gore, and he gets killed in every action movie these days....

All blood, guts, and oh fuck, I just killed my own joke.

Yours,


benji




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