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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/6/2007 4:45:58 PM   
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Umm.. thanks.  I have been squirming for an hour.
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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/7/2007 7:08:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

Do you now?

Or are you just saying this?

Why is that?

Do you actively experinece the same magnitude?

Ross

Hello Sir,
I enjoy heavy and severe spankings on many levels and for many reasons. It's not all one thing.
I like
Knowing I can be a useful vessel.
I love being filled with the Dom's energy and reflecting it on my skin for his viewing pleasure both in seeing the coloring and me writhe as he creates it.
I enjoy taking that extreme energy and processing it through me.
The energy resonates much like when someone bangs a gong. The impact does not end at my skin, but travels through my nerves and spirit creating this orchestra of feelings and sensations.
It gives me great stress relief as when it's over I'm loose and exhausted.
It makes me happy as I am very stubborn and I know I was able to take something extreme and control it so it did not win my mind did.
If I've had a bad day or am stressing a heavy scene restores peace to my spirit.
It's like being a marathon runner vs a jogger in my opinion.
Those that play heavier safely are much more dedicated athletes no matter what end of the whip or cane they are on so I feel when playing like this I'm playing with an elete Dom.
And there's many many more reasons.
The last I mention here is after care and after scening sex is a phenomenal gift I get to feel in ways I could not experience had I not had the hard ride first.
suzanne
** edited to add I indeed do not enjoy any punishment spankings.
I personally look at them as good girl spankings because I do indeed enjoy them.
Punishment for real would not only remove any joy, but would leave me dissapointed in my self and with hurt feelings.
No fun, no pleasure in a bad girl (other than role play) spanking in my book at all.

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/7/2007 7:17:48 AM   
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RGEfilms use to go by another name years ago but it escapes Me at 530am. You are correct that the approach is more harsh than most other sites. This is not a spanking site but more of a punishment site. One of carrying out very real administrations of punishment with cold calculating methodology. Having viewed many of the videos (not counting current listings) http://gallery.rge-films.com/Default.aspx I remember thinking how some of the women seemed like they were some how talked into something they were not aware of how extensive it was to be. The tears and fear seamed very real. The methods to which they were secured seemed in line with proper execution of said punishment as to prevent unintended striking in kidney area or spleen. I do not recall if all videos I had watched (as I seem to think they were part of a collection from a spanking site?) were as consistent by this company as others seemed to have men who had no training or skills nor business in using canes, whips or straps on the women as they missed the mark and hit areas that could cause inner organ damage or striking bones. The obvious lack of skill was hard to watch from the other companies with RGE films seemed to be ok in the skill department(but this is an assessment from years ago and such video have been committed to My archived collection). The ritual approach to said punishments with RGE films seemed to be interesting and some might find it arousing. All in all said this site is not for the faint hearted nor do I feel the majority of the group will find the erotic touchy feely they find in spanking will be found in the cold brutal nature of RGE films.  Respectfully submitted for consideration
Ross


Hello Sir Ross,
For me the tears come at times and are very very real too.
Defiantly in the middle of heavy scenes it moves more toward I'm not physically having a good time.
In that once I break the barrier of allowing my weak body to control my mind is where I find my nirvana.
When it still hurts like a son of a bi**h, but it does not matter as far as giving me anxiety ant longer I reach my element.
The big thing is many a Dom I played with backed off on their intensity right at this crucial moment.
I think that's the difference between a sadist and a sensual Dom.
I think the sadist keeps his ear open for the safe word and moves ahead full steam and the sensual Dom can't cause you discomfort he does not thin you enjoy.

You are also very right in the notion to play this heavy a sub should only play with a trained and knowledgeable partner.
Any time a Dom hit me in my kidney or edge of my bone area he was told if he did it again I would end the scene.
This indeed is something that's a medical issue that needs to be respected as such.
Kidneys and bone edges are no strike zones for sure.
suzanne

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/7/2007 9:55:53 AM   
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I cant see how many people could even pull this off in every day life. It must take two weeks to properly heal. So it would be hard to get stuff done afterwrds.

I wouldnt be able to tolerate such spankings since my emotional self would become involved. It would be bad for my soul.
   

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/7/2007 10:18:43 AM   
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none of those links you posted were to movies, they went to a default picture gallery.

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/11/2007 6:02:20 PM   
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Many of the images appear to show real and severe damage that will likely leave lifelong scars, sometimes known as Venetian Blind marks.  In the Eastern Block countries poverty is so rife that even very young girls will perform sexual favors, as a matter of routine for enough money simply for them or their family to eat.  Unlike “play” of the sort usually dealt with on collarme.com, where there is erotic stimulation amongst kinky people forming kindred relationships; where there are erotic rewards—what some of the images seem to portray here is simple victimization, and as such is abuse; and even though the participants may have consented—economic victimization is by (American) definition abuse.  I suppose some of these severe marks could be theatrically produced but I suspect that at least some are real. I find some of these pictures arousing, and some, the extreme ones that appear to be real damage, frightening and repulsive.

Beyond consensuality it seems that the next most important rule is “do no permanent harm.”  Consensual reddening of a bottom, striping, leaving minor bruises that last for some days to a week or so is usually accepted as causing no permanent harm.  To leave bruising that lasts beyond two weeks inevitably will result in scarring and the syndrome known as leather bottom (and probably other names) where deep tissue damage has left the area scarred and damaged with little or no feeling.  I certainly hope that nobody here looks at some of the extreme examples here as being acceptable—and use that as a gauge for marking someone.  A dominant’s prime role is protective, to make sure that even if the bottom wants to experience extreme stimulation that the actions never go to the realm of permanent harm.

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/13/2007 1:41:47 PM   
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i like a little pain .. but OUCH

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/13/2007 5:13:58 PM   
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i havent looked at all of them - but Master has done what i have seen with me.  I tend to move alot, so he ties me down very well.  Once every body part of mine was tied to a rackish thing.  My ass literally blistered and then popped on that occasion sending blood all over the paddle he was using at the moment. 

He has done it out of punishment, his pleasure and because he feels i need it.  I do not scream as its not allowed, but i do at times fight the bonds, and i do cry.  Generally i wish for something to grab and hold.  The rackish thing has many many slats on it and i found with that i could bite down on a slat and that helps alot.  The only "sexual" aspect that comes into these times is when i am fighting my bonds and crying and Master reaches down and says "oh you're wet, now why is that?"  Sometimes he likes to add torture to these scenes and attach clover clamps to my lips around the slats so i when i jerk from the strikes i jerk on the chain.. or to my nipples.. and if he wants to really get me.. he adds weights. 

The ONLY time i find any of this enjoyable is when it its over.  (no matter what my body says)


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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/25/2007 9:14:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: petdave

i fantasize about being marked like that in a scene (as an act of submission to a sadist, rather than a punishment), but have rarely managed to get beyond a few lingering bruises. Caning to the point of significant bleeding... not yet  As pointed out, if done as punishment, i certainly wouldn't enjoy it, though i'd probably feel a certain pride afterwards.


There is a sense of pride and submissives do wear the marks as badges of courage also.

There is that lingering sensation that reminds them for day of their recent endevours and pleasures.

It does take a bit of time to aquire the taste and endurance.

Just give yourself some time...you will do fine.

Ross

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/25/2007 9:16:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

dave I totaly get what your saying. it frustrates me a little that Master has never really left any bruises .. I dont bruise easily and I dont think Master has ever given the kind of session it takes for me to get bruised many would think it extreme like those vidios and the Dom I talked about earilier. Not many that I have met could dole out like he could.
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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/25/2007 9:17:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Umm.. thanks.  I have been squirming for an hour.
Kyst


Glad I could be of assistance.

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/25/2007 9:34:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill
Hello Sir,
I enjoy heavy and severe spankings on many levels and for many reasons. It's not all one thing.

Yes knowing that is on many levels is a fine awareness you have


I like
Knowing I can be a useful vessel.

A vehicle of pleasure to be driven to new found pleasures is always enjoyable


I love being filled with the Dom's energy and reflecting it on my skin for his viewing pleasure both in seeing the coloring and me writhe as he creates it.

The act is not only erotic but asthetic as well in both auditory and visual factions as well...lest not We forget the mental stimulation..oh yes the mindset...


I enjoy taking that extreme energy and processing it through me.

you feeding him feeding you feeding him....the continual cycle...



The energy resonates much like when someone bangs a gong. The impact does not end at my skin, but travels through my nerves and spirit creating this orchestra of feelings and sensations.

I also grows and glows to be distributed in many different ways..some immediate ..some creeper fashion...the electrical jolts theat permiate your skin...



It gives me great stress relief as when it's over I'm loose and exhausted.

Yes it can be quite theraputic and the enjoyment of endorphines is a favorate passtime of many


It makes me happy as I am very stubborn and I know I was able to take something extreme and control it so it did not win my mind did.

 
The saying of gain the mind and the body will follow is true but the body betrays the mind and seduces it with a powerful intoxicating elixer to be sough and craved for time and time again...
 

If I've had a bad day or am stressing a heavy scene restores peace to my spirit.

Inner sactum is flowing energy...spiral in nature and ever evolving...
 
 

It's like being a marathon runner vs a jogger in my opinion.


Pushing the envelope to gain more and more accomplished and endurace with balance...
 

Those that play heavier safely are much more dedicated athletes no matter what end of the whip or cane they are on so I feel when playing like this I'm playing with an elete Dom.

The work out is at both ends...the focus and continuim of perpertual motion while enduring the impact session deserves that of an athelete...two minds melding as one fluid blur in motion
 

And there's many many more reasons.
The last I mention here is after care and after scening sex is a phenomenal gift I get to feel in ways I could not experience had I not had the hard ride first.

After glow and the intimacy of sexual union of the mind and flesh contribute to a higher for of communication and connectivity...


suzanne
** edited to add I indeed do not enjoy any punishment spankings.

Punishment in My perception is something you would avoid at all cost and only to endure as making ammends...not to be confused with discipline training.
 
 

I personally look at them as good girl spankings because I do indeed enjoy them.

Good that one gets what one enjoys...
 
 

Punishment for real would not only remove any joy, but would leave me dissapointed in my self and with hurt feelings.


From disapointment and failure creates a sense of accomplishment from learning and applying one self more to focus on the task at hand...hurt feelings should be secondary to that sense of wanting to suceed..the last time one should quit should be the last time one was sucessful at accomplishing the goal...

No fun, no pleasure in a bad girl (other than role play) spanking in my book at all.

No need to act for something that is wanted..simple request will do.
 
 
Ross


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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/25/2007 9:48:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

RGEfilms use to go by another name years ago but it escapes Me at 530am. You are correct that the approach is more harsh than most other sites. This is not a spanking site but more of a punishment site. One of carrying out very real administrations of punishment with cold calculating methodology. Having viewed many of the videos (not counting current listings) http://gallery.rge-films.com/Default.aspx I remember thinking how some of the women seemed like they were some how talked into something they were not aware of how extensive it was to be. The tears and fear seamed very real. The methods to which they were secured seemed in line with proper execution of said punishment as to prevent unintended striking in kidney area or spleen. I do not recall if all videos I had watched (as I seem to think they were part of a collection from a spanking site?) were as consistent by this company as others seemed to have men who had no training or skills nor business in using canes, whips or straps on the women as they missed the mark and hit areas that could cause inner organ damage or striking bones. The obvious lack of skill was hard to watch from the other companies with RGE films seemed to be ok in the skill department(but this is an assessment from years ago and such video have been committed to My archived collection). The ritual approach to said punishments with RGE films seemed to be interesting and some might find it arousing. All in all said this site is not for the faint hearted nor do I feel the majority of the group will find the erotic touchy feely they find in spanking will be found in the cold brutal nature of RGE films.  Respectfully submitted for consideration
Ross


Hello Sir Ross,
For me the tears come at times and are very very real too.

Yes the release of emotion and physical response can be very catharic while being physically and emotionally draining.


Defiantly in the middle of heavy scenes it moves more toward I'm not physically having a good time.

It is human nature to fight of flee such stimulation...in being bound either mentally or physically or being drawn to such the endorphines kick in giving an elevated hightened awareness and erotic stupour..


In that once I break the barrier of allowing my weak body to control my mind is where I find my nirvana.

Yes I remember once when a sub asked Me after she came out of subspace "what was that place I was just at? what was that nirvana?" I smiled and explained and repeated many times later...


When it still hurts like a son of a bi**h, but it does not matter as far as giving me anxiety ant longer I reach my element.

Anticipation can be just as erotic as the actual destination...to savor the moments one by one...the sensations...the sounds..the phemones in the air...to savor it like a fine wine and enjoy...one knows they will get from point a to point b but the moments to there...the stepping stones make the journey the enjoyable evolving part of life...
 

The big thing is many a Dom I played with backed off on their intensity right at this crucial moment.

Knowing how to read body is essential...the twick of an eyebrow...the flair of a nose...the pursing of the lips..the goose bumps on the cooling skin....the white stripe after the red...yes...reading is focus...


I think that's the difference between a sadist and a sensual Dom.

I consder Myself a sensual sexual romantic dominant...the ability to continue to the point just before the edge...allow the sub to look over ...yet hold her safe...and bring her back...

I think the sadist keeps his ear open for the safe word and moves ahead full steam and the sensual Dom can't cause you discomfort he does not thin you enjoy.

Constantly reminding submissives of the safeword...asking how they are...asking what the safeword is and then finally knowing when enough is going to be too much hours later is the notion to obtain...

You are also very right in the notion to play this heavy a sub should only play with a trained and knowledgeable partner.

It is not knowing what to immediately to do but what to do afterwards....

Any time a Dom hit me in my kidney or edge of my bone area he was told if he did it again I would end the scene.


A placing of a towel or even better the dom's own hand in such an area would lead to a better understanding of ritualistic technique...the better  a dom knows where the blow will land as he has seen it before it happens the more he can strike while looking elsewhere...sort of zen like in approach....

This indeed is something that's a medical issue that needs to be respected as such.

Common sense is something that every person should have second nature...

Kidneys and bone edges are no strike zones for sure.
suzanne

you are indeed very insightful in your evolving quest...




Ross

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/25/2007 9:50:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sophia37

I cant see how many people could even pull this off in every day life. It must take two weeks to properly heal. So it would be hard to get stuff done afterwrds.

I wouldnt be able to tolerate such spankings since my emotional self would become involved. It would be bad for my soul.
  



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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/25/2007 9:56:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NightWindWhisper

Many of the images appear to show real and severe damage that will likely leave lifelong scars, sometimes known as Venetian Blind marks.  In the Eastern Block countries poverty is so rife that even very young girls will perform sexual favors, as a matter of routine for enough money simply for them or their family to eat.  Unlike “play” of the sort usually dealt with on collarme.com, where there is erotic stimulation amongst kinky people forming kindred relationships; where there are erotic rewards—what some of the images seem to portray here is simple victimization, and as such is abuse; and even though the participants may have consented—economic victimization is by (American) definition abuse.  I suppose some of these severe marks could be theatrically produced but I suspect that at least some are real. I find some of these pictures arousing, and some, the extreme ones that appear to be real damage, frightening and repulsive.


It did occur to Me a few years ago when I first saw them that indeed there might be some exploitation going on as if you look at the real fear in their eyes.
 
Some seemed to be pros capable of dealing with this on a day to day basis but some I believe were not.
 
I am not condoning any activity that is not consented between all involved in any manner.
 
 


Beyond consensuality it seems that the next most important rule is “do no permanent harm.”  Consensual reddening of a bottom, striping, leaving minor bruises that last for some days to a week or so is usually accepted as causing no permanent harm.  To leave bruising that lasts beyond two weeks inevitably will result in scarring and the syndrome known as leather bottom (and probably other names) where deep tissue damage has left the area scarred and damaged with little or no feeling.  I certainly hope that nobody here looks at some of the extreme examples here as being acceptable—and use that as a gauge for marking someone.  A dominant’s prime role is protective, to make sure that even if the bottom wants to experience extreme stimulation that the actions never go to the realm of permanent harm.

Yes the leather bottoming can occur in daily sessions back to back if care is not given to proper fluid intake and movement be it yoga or excersise. If one is in doubt of the long term effects one might consider consulting one in a medical profession for guidance in a healthy lifestyle.
 
Ross



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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/25/2007 9:57:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: blinkingababy

i like a little pain .. but OUCH


What is one person's ceiling is another person's floor.

It did not get there overnight.

Ross

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/31/2007 3:23:46 PM   
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Interesting to see the religious connection with many of them-- ie crucifix on wall.

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 1/31/2007 6:39:06 PM   
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mmm ... it's been 8 months since i got to play and have welts and bruises like those in the pics ...

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 2/1/2007 6:31:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SlaveSubtoserve

Interesting to see the religious connection with many of them-- ie crucifix on wall.


Makes the taboo that much more enjoyable does it not?

Ross

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RE: Enjoy punishment of this sort? - 2/1/2007 6:32:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BabyNyla

mmm ... it's been 8 months since i got to play and have welts and bruises like those in the pics ...

I am sure many will approach you to have you renew your interests via percussion of leather.



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