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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/10/2007 9:38:53 AM

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I don't know why but the title "Mace that Vagina" sounded like a great title for a game show...a horribly sick and twisted game show..but a game show none the less

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/10/2007 9:46:10 AM

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index finger on button of mace can.

OK, dd......
Explain Wittgensteinian Philosophy in the juxtaposition of modern socio-economic society as a tautology...in twelve words or less, and insure that your answer is in the form of a question......

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, sorry, I am afraid the correct answer is, What is Buddy Rich?

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/11/2007 11:22:01 PM

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Have you given any thought to the fact that such substances can blister mucous membranes? I am glad my dom is not such an idiot. Try spraying some on your cock first. How about a nice sounding with it?

Haven't you heard there is no such thing as a stupid question? When I don't ask, and when I harm someone as a result of not asking, that's when I'd be an idiot. I ask because it sounds seriously painfully sexy! Very much edgeplay oriented of course if it's even reasonably safe.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/11/2007 11:23:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

I would not think that would be a wise idea unless you have something you could pour on her to stop the burning if it's too intense.
I'd recommend ginger root as it burns like fire and is pretty safe instead.
Get fresh root at the grocery store. Peel and insert it in her vagia or rectum. You'll get the result you seek without damaging her.
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Ginger is good, I'm simply wondering if there is somthing with more kick out there that won't cause damage.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/11/2007 11:26:40 PM

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Classy and I agree, her Dom is not an idiot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_%28spray%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_spray

These links have some good info about both MACE and Pepper Spray which are actually two different formulations. MACE is more a tear gas and is less and less available. Pepper Spray causes tears and serious irritation to any mucous membrane. Its chemical is oleoresin capsicum which is essentially extremely concentrated pepper oil. As a paramedic that gets calls out to take care of folks that have been "pepper sprayed", I can not fathom that this would at all be anything other extreme sadistic torture.

If you REALLY think pepper spray will come off with urine, I don't want you providing aftercare for anyone around me. This material is an oil and is designed to STICK to the individual being sprayed. The only way it comes off is with something that removes the oil. There are special products like Sudecon (http://www.foxlabs.com/Wipes.html) that are designed for removal of the oils. Other gentle soaps will work too (baby shampoo). These only remove the oil, the irritation and systemic effects may remain for hours.

While I have never been directly exposed, I have been about 20-30 feet downwind when an officer let loose with a spray and I got hit with some drift. I had a wheeze and heavy nasal mucous production for an hour or so and this was from just a few droplets. I can not remember a time I have seen an officer not get some back on himself when he has sprayed a subject, so expect to get it on yourself too.

Personally, I think this is way beyond safe but I guess if you are risk aware and willing to take on the responsibility and repercussions for potentially severly damaging your partner then there are probably some really sadistic folks (yeah, some of you are complimented by this) out there that would do this. For me...no way.

I think SweetPosession is right, be responsible and try it out on yourself first. Let us all know how it goes.

Phoenix

Are you aware of a less sticky, long term sort of formula? How about alternatives to ginger? I am not impressed by the otc creams by the way.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/11/2007 11:27:22 PM

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OK now I've got this vision in my head of a scene gone wrong. Dom ends up with eyes full of mace ordering his girl to piss on his face.....NOW Gawd DammiT!!!!!! LoL

Heee Heee Heee!

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/11/2007 11:52:35 PM

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The possibilities of collateral damage from pepper spray (which is what most "Mace" is these days - it's what the cops carry, anyway - oleoresin capsicum 10%). are just too great. #1 is getting it in her (or your) eyes or lungs. Serious bummer, dude. The spray produces tiny droplets that disperse quickly; you damn well better be upwind.

You don't want to breathe it. I speak here from experience. It is better than dying, but not by much, and the early returns favored dying. If you spray it indoors, anyone in the building is at risk, and it will need to be evacuated. It may be uninhabitable for days.

Aged ginger root is stronger than fresh. Put the fresh roots in a plastic bag in the refrigerator, and wait 2-3 months. It will grow mold on the surface. Cut off the moldy skin, discard any that are moldy inside. The inside should be much darker and juicier than the fresh stuff.

If ginger root has been tried and found wanting, there are many other hot things short of using pepper spray. Ben-Gay or Tiger Balm have long been used for this purpose. Most edible hot sauces (Tabasco, etc.) will have a burning but not blistering effect, and last longer than the ginger. Chinese Chili Oil is vegetable oil that has had hot chilis soaked in it, and it works well. You can make your own, if you want. I do.

Another I have heard of but not tried is to carve a fresh horseradish root into a dildo or buttplug. Caveat Emptor.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/12/2007 9:11:29 AM

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Akbarbarian simply do what a responsible dominant would do—try it on you. Now you don’t have a vagina, but there are a few other options where you can find mucous membranes below the navel. Probably the most similar tissue would be the lining of your urethra. Gently pull apart the sides of the glans penis (‘lil helmethead) so that the urethra “opens” then you can spray some right down the hole. This will expose you to the same material that you’d do to your lady, but about 1/10 of 1% area-wise. I suspect that just about the time that phoenixclc is helping you into the ED you’ll be thinking that a vagina full of this stuff might not be a good idea. You could try the other area that has mucous membranes but you’d probably need help for that.

However, wicked and nasty ideas such as this make such delightful conversation, so much so that I certainly don’t want to dampen your enthusiasm, so I have another idea that you might like: Stinging nettle.

Stinging nettle is an indigenous plant to most of the New England states, but I don’t think that it’s native to Alaska. If you look at purveyors of exotic vegetable seeds you will find them for sale for a couple of bucks. See this site for a picture: (http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/food/edibleplants/nettle/index.html)

Nettle has tiny hairs along the shaft of the plant. At the base of each hair there is a tiny sac that contains toxins (how wicked—toxins). The toxins are composed of histamine, formic acid (as found in ant bites) and other stimulation inducing factors. Now some might look at that word toxin and say “oh No.” Yet consider this—when you tire of utilizing the nettles, pick a bunch of them, boil them like spinach and eat ‘em up. Many people do this.

The nice thing about nettles is that the “dose” is easy to adjust. Start with a bunch of nettles and pull her panties out a bit, placing them strategically in alignment with various parts of her anatomy. Take her out to dinner, go for a walk, or if the effect is too mild, off with the panties, and well, manipulate things about. I imagine that nettles would be ideal for nipple/breast torture also.

The effect lasts from ten minutes to two hours. Do be careful as there are reports of dogs that have died after being exposed to massive quantities of nettle toxin. If the burn gets too much—hopefully you have bought a packet of mint, and have grown these next to the nettle, take a bunch of leaves, crush them and rub them on the affected area (and the clitoris, even if it was not exposed, I mean—after all…) The leaves will reduce the stinging and leave her inflamed cunt smelling like a Southern mint julep. Drink up.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/12/2007 9:56:50 AM

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Speaking as someone who is allergic to OC spray - this is a bad bad bad idea. I don't know about a building being uninhabitable by anyone for days, but if you live in an apartment building and anyone in it has asthma, or any other pulmonary disease, or has the same allergy that I have - you could easily kill them by spraying it when they have no warning. From past experience, I can't be in an area where OC has been sprayed - when it happened at the jail I worked at, I couldn't even go to the floor it had happened on until the next day; when it happened at where I work now, I had to put on a surgical mask and I still had to use my inhaler 3 times that night (even after I had left the building).

It's some nasty stuff that you are thinking about using, and at least you asked first ... I have to say I don't understand why you would have thought it was a good idea - it being caustic and aerosol and all, but I guess it takes all sorts.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/12/2007 5:03:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: NightWindWhisper

Akbarbarian simply do what a responsible dominant would do—try it on you. Now you don’t have a vagina, but there are a few other options where you can find mucous membranes below the navel. Probably the most similar tissue would be the lining of your urethra. Gently pull apart the sides of the glans penis (‘lil helmethead) so that the urethra “opens” then you can spray some right down the hole. This will expose you to the same material that you’d do to your lady, but about 1/10 of 1% area-wise. I suspect that just about the time that phoenixclc is helping you into the ED you’ll be thinking that a vagina full of this stuff might not be a good idea. You could try the other area that has mucous membranes but you’d probably need help for that.

However, wicked and nasty ideas such as this make such delightful conversation, so much so that I certainly don’t want to dampen your enthusiasm, so I have another idea that you might like: Stinging nettle.

That would only be true if I intended to insert the formula into her urethra, which is very prone to infection and males could get it too especially with reckless play like this. If you're putting anything in the UT, it had better contain a bactericide. Responsible domiants do try a few things personally to know what they are dishing out, but this sort of edgeplay is better discussed first and perhaps there is no more than a first. I find it ironic that the idea of macing a bottom gathers gasps, but macing ones self seems to be encouraged. If mace is bad, it shouldn't be applied to anyone. Is it ok to harm a sadist but not a masochist? The moral outrage has me glad...that I have hardly any morals so I can see the practical side to this. Anyway, who'se "little"?

Stinging nettle does sound appealing to try someday however, thanks for the idea.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/12/2007 5:05:31 PM

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Aged ginger root is stronger than fresh. Put the fresh roots in a plastic bag in the refrigerator, and wait 2-3 months. It will grow mold on the surface. Cut off the moldy skin, discard any that are moldy inside. The inside should be much darker and juicier than the fresh stuff.

Another I have heard of but not tried is to carve a fresh horseradish root into a dildo or buttplug. Caveat Emptor.

Good advice and ideas, thanks!

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/13/2007 7:09:44 PM

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More kick than ginger? Just asking, but have you tried ginger root on yourself?

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/13/2007 8:42:55 PM

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Quick "chemical play" story. Bratty masochist friend gave my wife some cinnamon oil, and warned her to use just the slightest bit of it at a time, preferably diluted. i have "alligator skin", i blame lots of exposure to nasty automotive fluids. After a bit of experimentation, she coated my scrotum rather liberally with it, and finally got a satisfactory response out of me. The burning gradually faded through our play session, and fairly soon afterwards i forgot about it and fell asleep, wearing boxer briefs and a T-shirt for warmth. Woke up in the morning, went to the bathroom, and discovered that the top layer of skin from my scrotum came off along with my underwear. Didn't hurt as much as you'd think, but it was hella nasty looking... you can bet i didn't get any until it healed.

Moral of the story: chemical irritant play doesn't always go the way you expect it to.

There are various other ways to torment a pussy before sex that don't risk inadvertant transmission... small clamps or miniature clothespins, a good session of flogging or spanking, even abrasion with a harsh brush or scouring pad. No need to risk injuring yourself in the process.

But, if there are any TV execs on the board, please don't take this to mean that i, a member of one of the most desireable demographics known to man, would not be an ardent viewer of "Mace That Pussy!" if it makes it to the small screen

Coincidentally enough, i went to a taping of "Wheel of Fortune" today and had a hard time not shouting that along with the crowd.

"I'm sorry, Jill, there are no Ts. Vanna, please open Jill up nice and wide and give her a one-second squirt"

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/13/2007 9:33:56 PM

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Anyone ever tried using mace on the vagina? I imagine that would hurt like a bitch. Since it can be sprayed in the face and eyes, it seems like it wouldn't cause permenant damage.

Most mace/spray bottles have a warning label "Do not apply to genetals." Spraying mace in general stinks up the whole room making breathing a problem. You're better off using products like Ginger and Wasabi. You'll still get the reaction you want and not have to worry to much about your boys down below.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/16/2007 11:55:16 PM

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Unless she's allergic or super sensitive...

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/16/2007 11:59:45 PM

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Not to mention the fact that if the blast is that strong, it could potentially blow air into the vagina, thus toward the cervix...which can be potentially harmful.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/17/2007 2:48:49 AM

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Mace is easily irrigated and nullified with urine.

Y'know... the scary thought is "how did you come to realize that?"

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/17/2007 3:04:53 AM

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If its for the visual effect, try finding a spray bottle/pressure spray with a mace can like appearence, and filling it with a nice wasabi/ginger/chili mix. a good sprayer, a painful blast... the sub need never know she hasn't justbeen this weeks winner on "Mace that Vagina!"

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/17/2007 7:33:28 AM

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I thought we were talking about a new mace-shaped dildo. Big round silicone head with spiky knobs and a long shaft- sounds like Crisco time to me.

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RE: Mace that vagina - 1/18/2007 3:20:09 PM

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G'evening..

On the bandwagon of caution, I'd agree with most previously replying to me.

Mace or CS tear gas (harder to obtain) shouldn't be used. IF you must try something. I'd suggest pepper spray. Also, realize that some people have adverse (more than just pain or irritaiton) reactions to many chemicals which might include pepper dirivatives.

Ginger root is the best bet, without a doubt. The effects can be extreme (if it's fresh, peeled, and chilled in ice water prior to use), but once removed, the effects are relieved quickly without extreme medical attention.

I will offer one consideration for use of pepper spray... spray a small amount in your palm (gloved hand suggested).. dip a fingertip from your other hand into the oil.. then make small swipes of it on the cheeks just below the eyes of your bottom/submissive/slave. This will cause burning and irritation, but with limited exposure.

Ahhhh the taste of tears....

That's my two cents...

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