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proudsub -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (6/30/2004 10:38:02 PM)

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how then does someone actually ever connect and learn to do the things a master would need to do?


At the cam site i used to frequent there is a Master who often turned his cam on to show how he was training a new Master. The experienced one was using his sub wife to show the new one how do certain things. It was always fun to watch. In the chat room he would explain what he was doing when he could. I wish hubby had some training like that.




Sinergy -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (7/1/2004 7:16:52 AM)

Hello,

From my experiences going to Munches and BDSM clubs, I would recommend that new people not share their lack of experience with the room. Goes back to something Estrict said, which was to just be yourself. Additionally, when I have seen people do that the trolls descend on them like a herd of vultures who spot fresh meat.

Just my take. I dont personally care how much experience the person has to begin with. If we click I suspect we will both get more [;)] experienced.

Sinergy




tanna -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (7/3/2004 3:57:13 PM)

(first time posting so please forgive me if i futz it up)

Munches are a great idea, and I can relate to the great advice posted here, but sometimes getting to one can be intimidating even to the bravest of souls.

I remember the vultures hovering at a safe distance when I attended my first munch. The host couple seated me with them, and kept the others from decending upon me. Why? Because I contacted them prior to the munch and explained that I would like to meet so that I knew someone there before going. Otherwise I think I would have been overwhealmed and scared off.

Because of that I try to be helpful to the others who are new, even offering to sit with new subs and Dominants so that they feel safe. I don't often see Dominants doing that for other Dominants at munches, though most look like they need it..

Do any of you offer to be a friendly face for one to connect with in order to get their foot in the door? Just curious.

tanna




Sinergy -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (7/3/2004 5:10:16 PM)

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Do any of you offer to be a friendly face for one to connect with in order to get their foot in the door? Just curious.


I always go up and meet people and start conversations and the like.

Part of this, looking back, is that I spent most of my life feeling rather
shy. Knowing this about myself, I taught myself to be outgoing and
meet new people and make friends.

After a while it just became habit.

Sinergy




Checkers -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (7/4/2004 7:25:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: proudsub

At the cam site i used to frequent there is a Master who often turned his cam on to show how he was training a new Master. The experienced one was using his sub wife to show the new one how do certain things. It was always fun to watch. In the chat room he would explain what he was doing when he could. I wish hubby had some training like that.



proudsub,
I wonder if that Dom you mention made videos?
I recall seeing a snippet of video of a professional Domme, and I was impressed by how efficient she was. She did not appear to need to expend a great deal of energy to achieve the effect she desired!
One would not need to emulate another Dom/me one saw on video, but there could possibly be some source of inspiration or learning there (particulartly if you have yet to attend a play party...)
I don't know any titles, offhand ~
does anyone have any to suggest?

Checkers





Sinergy -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (7/4/2004 7:36:29 PM)

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'm surprised no one has said anything about a mentor.


Odd post to read two posts after I discuss mentoring.

*goes back to being a nobody*

Sinergy




Laura -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (7/4/2004 7:48:26 PM)

Experience can be pretty phoney. I've met plenty of men who say they have 10+ years of experience. It's all in the mind of the Dom. What is experience? Usually they include time online, time between anything they actually did. Now when I hear or read about someone having "experience" I just ignore it. Often it puts me off bothering with them.

If you want to become experienced start small and work your way up, slowly. Don't do anything obviously stupid. Don't play with wax, fire, electricity, etc until you know what you're doing. Don't go overboard with bondage until you know that's what she really wants. It's not that hard to get experience. Use common sense.




proudsub -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (7/4/2004 9:47:30 PM)

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proudsub,
I wonder if that Dom you mention made videos?


Yes they often showed videos, but also showed live scenes.




Checkers -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (7/4/2004 11:52:46 PM)



I think Laura raises a good point.
Experience doesn't necessarily equate with compatibility, to pick just one example.
I used to know a manager of a restaurant, and all of his waitstaff were notoriously lacking in work ethic.
One day I asked him, "What do you look for when you hire someone?", and he replied, "If they don't have (x number of years) experience, I don't even read the resume..."
Experience is good, but it's not everything.







Thanatosian -> RE: How do you become experienced without the experience? (7/8/2004 5:38:00 AM)

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I don't know any titles, offhand ~
does anyone have any to suggest?

Checkers


A number of years back, I think late 80's or so, Home Maid Video put out JayDee's Bondage Notebooks 1&2 starring Jay Dee and Kiri Kelly - basically a set of vognettes where JD explains and shows on video various ways to tie up and otherwise have fun with a submissive - Kiri is, natch, the submissive being tied up - although there is at least one scene where she does some self bondage to 'surprise' JD when he comes in - safety is stressed throughout, and I found it to be a good learning tool as well as a nice bit of mind candy[:)]

no idea if they are still available new or if you would have to try and find one at a fetish flea market (if such exist)




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