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RE: I just firgure it out - 3/10/2005 7:04:46 PM   
SirKenin


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No, the relationship is done. I have had enough. She has herself decided that she does not want it anymore. How it finally ended is the details I am omitting.

I do not feel like a soap opera, so I will allow you to think whatever you want and I will just let it die.

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RE: I just firgure it out - 3/10/2005 7:29:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

I do not feel like a soap opera, so I will allow you to think whatever you want and I will just let it die.



How very kind of you to allow me to think.

I think it's bullshit. If you knew where your boundaries were it never would have become a drama. You'd have stopped it before it got that far (voice of experience speaking here). Kudos to you for trying to stop it now, but you'll note by the prevalence of threads that it's not over yet.

This is just a guess, but perhaps your ego got a bit of a charge out of the notion of 'fixing' her. Or perhaps you couldn't let go because you saw her dysfunction as a personal failure. Or any of a zillion other possibilities. Either way, it didn't have anything to do with love and if you kid yourself into believing it did you're doomed to repeat the pattern with the next one that comes along.

Physician, heal thyself.




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RE: I just firgure it out - 3/11/2005 1:26:26 PM   
SirKenin


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You cannot understand because You do not know Me. You do not have any idea how big My heart is, nor how much I cared about and loved her. That extended so deeply that I would do anything for her, including laying My life down for her in a heartbeat.

Some people in here have an inkling of a notion what it was like, but not many. My friends and family all knew. cute knew. That is just the kind of person I am. I will give everything I have to them out of love for them and not think twice. That is why it got in the way. I should have just put the play aside, but I could not see that at the time. People seem to forget that it really is possible to love a person to that degree. Many don't even know what true love is and I'm not surprised that many in this lifestyle do not approach it from that angle as so far I have yet to see that being a main focus in D/s relationships. Developing true, intense love, putting the other person first, even if You do dominate and control them is possible.

I changed My mind, I felt some type of response might be necessary after all.




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RE: I just firgure it out - 3/11/2005 3:00:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

You cannot understand because You do not know Me.



Quite true. All I have to go on is what you've presented, how you've presented it and how my own experience colors my perspective (I'm pretty sure I even said "it's just a guess..." and "or any of a zillion other things"). My assessment stands until I have something else from which to base a perspective. It was offered as a mirror.


quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

You do not have any idea how big My heart is, nor how much I cared about and loved her. That extended so deeply that I would do anything for her, including laying My life down for her in a heartbeat.

Some people in here have an inkling of a notion what it was like, but not many. My friends and family all knew. cute knew. That is just the kind of person I am. I will give everything I have to them out of love for them and not think twice. That is why it got in the way. I should have just put the play aside, but I could not see that at the time. People seem to forget that it really is possible to love a person to that degree. Many don't even know what true love is and I'm not surprised that many in this lifestyle do not approach it from that angle as so far I have yet to see that being a main focus in D/s relationships. Developing true, intense love, putting the other person first, even if You do dominate and control them is possible.

I changed My mind, I felt some type of response might be necessary after all.



Am I the only person who hears the opening bars of Mozart's Requiem here?

Sometimes the greater love is the love that can refuse to participate and walk away; it certainly takes a considerable amount of internal fortitude especially if deep emotion is present. Perhaps you're not familiar with this sort of giving love, perhaps you are. It would seem some semblence of same is becoming apparent to you if you've stopped sending mixed signals such as "We're not a couple, My pet."

To 'love' someone is to GIVE them love (in action), not just to FEEL it. The depth of your emotion only effects you, it's your actions that make or break your case (as could be said for the female in question). "Who knew what" is pretty irrelevant, unless you need that validation.

I do not know what your definitions of "true" and "intense" are, but I do know what I think when I hear someone else use the term 'true' as an adjective. As to putting the other person first, I certainly agree that often that is a part of giving love much the same as NOT putting them first often is just as valid a form of love. There is no reason this sort of love can't be a part of any relationship, D/s or otherwise. In fact I am involved in and have seen many relationships that balance the two quite nicely, D/s or otherwise. Balance is the key. Please be aware that many people who are committed to their drama addiction use the depth of their emotion as their excuse to remain engaged, inevitably perpetuating the problem.

One of the original posters to this forum once used the analogy of the presence of an 'inner mirror of self examination' that, to me, was quite apt. It's what I've been shooting for in our interactions here, although I'll admit apparently not successfully.

My suggestions regarding your current drama (or the drama most recently passing, if that's the case) were given in the spirit of offering you another perspective from which to look at yourself. I'll grant you that they were blunt and had little tact, but I've often found that the straight forward approach is most effective; and in this case it served to set up a potential reaction (which you unfortunately obliged me with, thereby further affirming my assessment).

If a person struggles with justifications and behavior based in emotional reaction (regardless of how well it is mentally masturbated) before they can look at themself (with the objective being to learn and grow) just how exactly can they be expected to teach someone else how to not behave from their reactions?



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RE: I just firgure it out - 3/11/2005 4:51:14 PM   
SirKenin


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It was the same deep love that I had for her that set her free, no matter how much it hurt to do so.

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