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daddysprop247 -> RE: Punishment (2/1/2007 9:32:53 AM)

if the infraction is mild to moderate, then punishment is immediate and quick. if the infraction is severe, he will set aside a date sometime in the future (maybe a week or more) for when the punishment will take place. this way i suffer more, thinking each hour of each day of the impending doom, and knowing i can't breathe again until it's over. it also prevents him from going overboard with the punishment due to his own anger. punishments in this house are usually physical, although it is never just a beating and that's the end of it...there is a sit down discussion period where what happened and why is thoroughly hashed over, as well as ways to prevent the same thing from happening in the future. sometimes privileges are taken away in addition to the physical punishment  (which varies btw, from a spanking to an out and out beating).




amayos -> RE: Punishment (2/1/2007 9:58:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl

That was definitely how it worked for us. Good points.




Thank you, cuteness. It's good to see others identifying with the reality of punishment and not just its kinky facade.




mixielicous -> RE: Punishment (2/1/2007 10:06:31 AM)

i may be one of those people who fall under punishment is a kink... thats prolly why i dont get it anymore [punished] well sometimes i get a swift one to the face [not doing something by the time he said to have it done etc] but spankings et al are left for "fun time" as i long/yearn for them. even if it hurts more than i want in the end i still get that *complete/satisfied* feeling - - -

so my punishments are a lack there of LOL if that makes any sense

but i am also relied on heavily to not present such a situation that would need actual remedying. THATS ultimate test if you ask me.

but before we learned CP/DD wasnt for me i recieved spankings and standards. [8|]




AquaticSub -> RE: Punishment, and how you choose to apply it. (2/1/2007 11:23:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hisannabelle

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ORIGINAL: VelvetVixyn

She claims one should be calm when punishing a slutty slave. HA! I think best when I'm ripping pizzed! And of COURSE EVERYTHING is the SLAVE'S fault, isn't it?

Veve


*praying that this was meant to be a very bad joke*  



*joins in the prayer*




AquaticSub -> RE: Punishment, and how you choose to apply it. (2/1/2007 11:28:56 AM)

When I am being punished, I stand in the corner. I have to stand on one leg for a determined amount of time. He threatens to have me write out grammer rules if I am ever very bad. Personally, we don't understand punishments that involve spanking or sex, be it vaginal or anal. That would just arouse me and completely defeat the point of the punishment, but I guess not everyone works the same way! [:)]




Mercnbeth -> RE: Punishment, and how you choose to apply it. (2/1/2007 11:42:10 AM)

At this point in our relationship "punishments" are few and far between.

When determining the proper punishment one important consideration was to make sure I wasn't punishing myself. Meaning that some of the punishments documented here wouldn't be considered. For example, I wouldn't "punish" by not allowing beth to sleep in my bed - I LOVE having her as a "comforter". I wouldn't withhold a spanking - I LOVE spanking her.

Should a Dominant "suffer" for the "sins" of the submissive? NO!

As others have said, "punishment" should be avoided. Pragmatically the need to apply punishment indicates failure. Failure of the submissive to follow a rule, but also failure of a Dominant to properly train, educate, or enable the submissive to successfully adhere to the rule. Both parties should be upset at the prospect of being punished or needing to correct action by punishment.

I define "effective punishment" as an act inflicted with the touch of a feather generating a response or reaction equal to being hit with a thrown brick.




Devilslilsister -> RE: Punishment, and how you choose to apply it. (2/1/2007 11:43:55 AM)

Master used to "save" punishments up.  Which i oddly (being new) completely forgot about and at times was absolutetly sure he forgot about......... so my response to the whole wait is "it prolly wont happen"

Of course he has notifed me that when he gets here, i'm being punished.  Usually the drive is an hour and i spazz.  i literally spazz.  He also has me "set" up and get ready.  I usually spazz even more setting up.  Massive anxiety, with a heavy weight on the chest and usually feeling like a rabbit stuck in the corner of a cat coming at it. 

thank GOD i can not be spanked currently, but then when he thinks i'm ready to be able to take it.. i know the first couple of times is going to be haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard. 

For us - the difference between punishment and play is the amount of mercy shown. 




SATANMAN -> RE: Punishment (2/15/2007 2:49:22 PM)

as seen fit




MasterMataeo -> RE: Punishment (2/16/2007 9:19:08 AM)

punishment must fit the "crime" but punishment can be as difficult on the Dom/Master as it is on the sub/slave ,, for who wants a bent and broken and unusable slave,, in essance be fair and just,




andreaC -> RE: Punishment, and how you choose to apply it. (2/17/2007 4:11:08 AM)

In our situation, Master knows that corporal punishment isnt what will affect me more.  He knows how to punish me without even lifting and showing me his evil flogger. I am not saying that i wont get corporal punishment.......i know i will if the situation requires it.

Master will talk to me about what i did wrong and analyze it, he would never do something if he is mad.  He will calm himself first and then deal with the problem.




RPutnamJr -> RE: Punishment, and how you choose to apply it. (2/17/2007 4:53:16 AM)

I agree that punishments should fit the crime. And never to enforce punishments when angry.

In order to punish one must know the cause of the infraction. After all how can you punish one if you have not taught them properly. Best to punish the teacher for being a bad teacher.

You cannot also punish in a way that reinforces the behavior that caused the punishment in the first place. After all if you spank someone who loves spankings then is that truely punishment?

Punishing a slave/submissive is just like punishing a child. You can be quick with the punishment or slow...depending on how much anxiety their own mind will cause thinking about what they have done and the punishment that awaits them for their infraction. You can sometimes just give them a look...especially if the look gives them the sense of sadness of disappointing you. Other times they need a talking to...after all if they do not know what they did is bad...then you need to be able to tell them and why in order to correct their future behavior. 

Removing privilages and things they like is sometimes effective. After all if a child really likes dessert and you take that away when everybody else has it then that can be a punishment. Or take away their make-up, brush, whatever if they are vain about their appearance...after all dessert wouldn't work if they are on a diet. Just have to find something they enjoy alot and take it away from them...then make sure they don't sneak it back before the punishment is done.

Or you can go about rewarding good behavior. I always gave my dogs a small treat when they came in from outside. All I'd have to say to get them to come inside was...anyone want a treat? They would come running. Thus with good training, same as a dog, you can also get good results without punishing bad behavior by reinforcing good behavior. Just don't get into the habit of one upping yourself when rewarding and make sure the reward is appropriate. After all if you reward less the next time then it may not be as effective as a deterrant for bad behavior the next time.

And yes I have found that sometimes kindness can be just as bad a punishment at times...especially when they know they do not deserve your mercy...especially when they are spoiled rotten by that kindness. Makes them feel sooooo guilty for being bad and naughty.

Sometimes its better just to drop everything and give into their needs and wants. I learned that with my son, who was four and being naughty. I gave him a quick spanking and a talking to, but he continued to be naughty. Eventually I just dropped everything and just gave him the attention he needed, afterwards he was a good boy again. All he needed was my attention and love.

So my suggestion is to learn about your sub/slave...find out why they act inappropriately. And then vary your punishments/rewards so as to fit the situation to best meet their needs and thoughts. Then you may correctly administer what you feel is appropriate to the situation, even if it is to punish the teacher...remember the saying...this is going to hurt me worst than you. After all failure by them is sometimes a failure in yourself.





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