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sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/7/2007 8:36:01 PM)

Not any time soon . Stick to the junior leagues with the little insults. Try and read a little. Nurses have alot more power than your little insults can hurt. Does it make you feel better now to insult a nurse?




Nikolette -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/7/2007 8:48:15 PM)

This is a hasty reply to the OP so pardon it if someone's said it already.

My recommendation is: Get him to not masturbate for a few weeks, and then if he still doesn't seem to be responsive to your touch and has issues with ED, get him to go see a doctor. Sometimes guys can inadvertantly train their penis to keep erections and orgasm only by masturbation if they go through long dry spells. Or even if they aren't going through a dry spell, but for whatever reason are still masturbating often. People are easy to train in and out of sexual stimulation. BUT that may not be the case, so a doctor could also be in order. If the doctor thinks there is nothing wrong.... a therapist might be in order. Maybe he has intimacy issues that he's not fully aware of.




SirPhotographer -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/7/2007 8:56:21 PM)

Sounds like he may need to take a trip to his urologist. There are some aids on the market for help in that department  but get a medical exam first.




obey1 -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/7/2007 11:00:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW

Not any time soon . Stick to the junior leagues with the little insults. Try and read a little. Nurses have alot more power than your little insults can hurt. Does it make you feel better now to insult a nurse?


My mother was a nurse for 40+ years of her life.  Now she has Rhabdomyolosis from Lipitor, as does her best friend's mother (from nurses training in 1955).  I did not insult you but you had better be careful that the profession that you so vehemently defend does not come back to bite you in the ass when you get older and technology admits their mistakes.




quietkitten -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/7/2007 11:15:27 PM)

There are differing opinions on statins and other cholesterol lowering drugs. In the short term, they are effective at lowering cholesterol levels and can be helpful to people who are unable to lower their levels with lifestyle changes. However, they are a double edged sword and can cause serious health problems. Honestly, it is always better to use lifestyle changes first and foremost... rather than to pop a pill. But...there are people who do everything right and still can not get their numbers down... if they are already fighting cardiac disease a statin may help extend their life.

Rhabdomyolosis is a very serious potential side effect of statins, but is usually quite rare.  I am sorry to hear that your mother is suffering from it and I hope that she is ok.





SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/7/2007 11:39:30 PM)

No offense but it is Rhabdomyolysis. I was curious when you mentioned Lipitor since my mother is taking it. She already has kidney problems along with Hep C from a needle stick back in the days before there were safety precautions built into syringes.

Regarding the OP...Stress could definitely be a motivating factor however a trip to the Urologist wouldn't be a bad idea. Without any idea of age or other factors it would be hard to say what the exact cause could be.




obey1 -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/8/2007 7:52:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

No offense but it is Rhabdomyolysis. 


Yes, you're right.  I've typed that word incorrectly a few times elsewhere.  I used to copy/paste.




MamaDomme -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/8/2007 8:52:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: obey1

quote:

ORIGINAL: WalterRego

Er....what's wrong with statin drugs. Been taking them for a while and not noticed any adverse effects. Legal cite or website to the suit please?


http://www.spacedoc.net/statin_rhabdomyolysis.htm

http://www.anattorneyforyou.com/legal/statins-lawsuit.htm

Thank you Mama!  You're my kind 'o girl!


Thanks sweetie! 

just a side note-- I left the medical profession to become a paralegal and my specialty was medical research & writing for a large personal injury firm.  I still do some freelance work in the field.




porthuronsub -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/9/2007 7:29:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Koukei

The guy im having sex with can't stay hard. He swears it not me or the things I do and I believe him. He'll be hard one minute and the next it just fades away. It comes back shortly depending on what I do to him but we're both curious about why he can't stay hard. I can never seem to get him off, however he says he can do it by himself when he is alone. What could possibly be the problem?


I have this same problem and my cardio-vascular system checks out fine.  I have never been able to receive pleasure orally, just doesn't work for me...maybe haven't had the "right" one do it for me yet,  I don't know.  I do know that when there is alot of outside stress in my life that my mind tends to wander while in the act and that is when it usually happens.  It is very dissettling for the guy in the situation as well, and this usually just compounds the stress. My Mistress has found that if it happens that when she talks to me in a stern way, or is more physical such as pulling my hair, biting my neck ect.. that I stay focused and can complete the act. 
It also has alot to do with performance anxiety.  Anyone who has had it happen to them gets nervous when they are about to have intercourse and this starts the stress cycle.  It happened on the first two occassions with my Mistress, then I became more comfortable with her and my thoughts were on other things instead of my performance when it came time. 
Believe me,  if you care about him and want him to perform, do NOT make a big deal out of it.  play around it and come back to it.  that will help alot. 




Tslaveboy -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/10/2007 2:10:08 PM)

Maybe he needs to go to the gym and work out or better nutrition. There are also exercises to help maintain erections.




NightWindWhisper -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/11/2007 8:46:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Koukei

The guy im having sex with can't stay hard. He swears it not me or the things I do and I believe him. He'll be hard one minute and the next it just fades away. It comes back shortly depending on what I do to him but we're both curious about why he can't stay hard. I can never seem to get him off, however he says he can do it by himself when he is alone. What could possibly be the problem?


Sticking to the question at hand and thinking that the statin issue really ought to be a new thread...

Koukei we are limited by the lack of information about him--to a point.

Erectile dysfunction (ED) is just as the name implies, dysfunction.  (This does not include the rude penis that tries slip into the wrong orifice at the last moment.) Generally ED is the inability to attain an erection stiff enough and/or long enough to complete coitus.   There is a second component here that you mention that could be very important, and that is anorgasmia.  Anorgasmia is the inability to orgasm while having the ability to maintain the erection.

Anorgasmia is often linked to medications especially, but not limited to the anti-depressives and certain heart medications especially beta blockers.

Questions and thoughts to consider are:

          >Is he on medications? Do those meds have either component as a common adverse effect at a rate of >2% of people using them?
          >What is his age?  Though not really accurate I look at the effect of age this way:  Take the persons age, add 10%.  For instance if a person is 50 his "group" has a 60% chance of ED.  And yes, the 20 year old  group has a 30% chance of ED.  However this is ED "in some way," at some time, but not necessarily a continuing problem. 
          >ED is a common issue, but not always a problem.  Here it is a problem because you say "problem."  In many cases guys have periods of inability related to stress, or medication (the effect can be transient) and do not consider it a problem as some guys don't "need" to orgasm every time.  Some couples feel that they have a good sexual relationship even when the male has no ability to attain an erection at all.
          >As others have mentioned we have no idea as to his physical health.  High blood pressure ( normal = or <119/69) is a huge issue.  Even >140/85 will, over time damage the cardiovascular system.  As pointed out smoking is a huge factor.  So is extra weight and the presence or lack of adequate exercise.  
          >Ask him: "...do you get morning wood?"  Every male gets a hard-on in the very early morning.  The quality/duration of the erection seems to correlate closely with ED.  This is important because if he says: "Yeah, I get rock hard and it can last for 20 minutes,"  then the diagnosis is that the issue is in the big head, not in the little helmet head (his penis).  The fix = Route A below.
          >If he says "I get hard, but it isn't very stiff, or no, or it does and gets a bit hard then the problem is usually related to blood pressure in his penis and the ability of certain valves and/or vein quality to maintain the level of pressure to give him a hard-on and to hold it.  The fix= Route B

The suggested fix:

Route A:  This is the most likely scenario for your case.  Why?  Because you told us so
 
>" When we first started having sex i could get him off all the time doing just about anything but not now."
>" I can never seem to get him off, however he says he can do it by himself when he is alone."
>" He has been under a lot of stress lately."

These statements show us that in the recent past he did fine.  Also he does fine alone, and he is under a lot of stress.  To cure this remove or help him to deal with the stress.  I'd suggest trying to minimize the "need" for him to orgasm, let him realize that most men, at sometime in their life had this issue and it's ok.  Performance anxiety can feed upon itself.  The man feels anxious ("will I be able to...; Oh no, it's dying already...")  The anxious thoughts interfere with the release necessary for orgasm and erection and whammo, the penis shrinks in shame.

If the "stress" is something of a long term significant issue that creates anxiety, and if he has medical insurance, a counselor might be useful to help him deal with the stress.  Cialis might help--see below at "Meds"

Route:  We are assuming that he has said that doesn't get decent morning wood.   Therefore ED caused by physical problems are likely.  See a doctor, any will do, though a urologist would be best.   If his blood pressure is higher than 130/78 buy a blood pressure meter at Walmart and have him take a reading in the evening, relaxed, sitting down, >2 hours after eating.  If it is higher than 120/70 an average over two weeks, fix it.  The medical practitioner will suggest lifestyle changes and/or medication.

If his BMI (Body Mass Index) indicates overweight or obese (search keywords "BMI calculator") Drop the weight.  Often ever 2-4lbs will drop systolic BP by one point.  Do not go by perception, go by the BMI.  Perception is often off by more than 30lbs.   I frequently see people whose perception is that they are a few pound overweight when in fact they are obese.  Being obese brings increased risk factors in many, many areas.

Cardiovascular exercise will help greatly if his BP is high.  If he is over 40 and/or very out of shape, talk to the practitioner first.  But cardiovascular exercise MUST be done properly.  Many people say: "I walk..."  or  "I carry a lot of stuff around...."   To increase cardiovascular health, reduce BP and pulse rate the exercise must be in the proper target heartbeat range and must be at least twenty minutes (continuous) at least three times a week.  (Search "Target Heart Rate Calculator).  Therefore he would need a seven minute warm-up, and a seven minute cool-down plus the 20 minutes in the proper range for him.

This is 34 minutes three times a week.  I have seen many people go from a BP of "160/105" to <119/69 BP by doing just this, three times a week, over a year, while losing enough weight to be within the target BMI. 

Most people when told they should do this whine "I don't have the time."  My answer: 
"I have talked to a large group of people who once said they too had no time for exercise, and now they say: 'I make the time."  That group is composed of people who have had significant cardiovascular problems such as a heart attack."      

I hope these suggestion help.

Meds:  The common ED medications are Viagra, Levitra and Cialis.  They each cost ~$10/tablet. 

Viagra was first on the market and in my opinion has the worst adverse effects.  I call Viagra the three step drug:  First squirt some 12 hour nasal spray up you nose for the inevitable congestion.  Then pop a couple of Ibuprofins for the soon to occur headache Finally take a stomach acid reducer because you will likely get wicked indigestion.

I suggest that a guy start at a low dosage and work up.  Often times a practitioner will prescribe 10 milligram tablets.  I suggest cutting that into quarters (with the doc's permission of course as not all meds can be cut into pieces!).  If a quarter works, as it often does it only costs $2.50 a  pop and the adverse effects are less.  I do NOT recommend Viagra.  Viagra works for 4-8 hours.

Levitra was the second med.  However it too has the same (in my opinion-and not all people have significant adverse effects) adverse effects.   I do not recommend Levitra.

Cialis was the third medication to hit the market.  It has significantly less adverse effects and can last for 24-36 hours.  I recommend that the patient ask for Cialis (and by the way--to say: "got any samples doc?" as they usually do.)

In the case mentioned above--will Cialis help?  Maybe, maybe not.  It might be worth trying.




NightWindWhisper -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/12/2007 6:55:34 PM)

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I do know that when there is alot of outside stress in my life that my mind tends to wander while in the act and that is when it usually happens.
ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

I find it very interesting that in the book "Driven to Distraction" which is about those people with Attention Deficit Disordor (ADD) that often ADD people fit into one of two groups.  In one group the mind wanders, and performance wanes, in the other group the person hyperfocuses and becomes hypersexual because of the intensity of the relationship.  I've been told by a PsychD that I am ADD, and I've been told by another that I'm definately not ADD.  However I identify with the latter group, and believe that the intensity of a d/s or bdsm relationship focuses me such that I hyperfixate.  On alt dot com I'm SubspacePilot and the name is no misnomer.  My mind wanders easily but in certain areas I hyperfixate.  In the d/s relationship my hyperfixation excites my sub, which in turn focuses me even more.  Many poo poo the idea of Domspace, but to me it's quite real.  Some think that it cannot be good because the dom must have control, but to an ADD or ADD like person, the hyperfixation brings the ultimate in control.  I once saw a domme using a single tail on her submissive, some guy in the background was talking and laughing.  The sub was actually orgasming and in the middle of this, the domme turned and hit the guy's shoe cracking the single tail, then turned back to her sub.  The entire incident took less than a second.  Her mind did not wander.


So for those who lose focus, you might want to read about ADD, for if you have trouble with ED or orgasm and decide that you are ADD or ADD like a bit of methylphenidate may be the perfect medication for you, allowing your focus to remain on your partner.


Just some thoughts.




porthuronsub -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/12/2007 7:11:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NightWindWhisper

quote:

I do know that when there is alot of outside stress in my life that my mind tends to wander while in the act and that is when it usually happens.
ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

I find it very interesting that in the book "Driven to Distraction" which is about those people with Attention Deficit Disordor (ADD) that often ADD people fit into one of two groups.  In one group the mind wanders, and performance wanes, in the other group the person hyperfocuses and becomes hypersexual because of the intensity of the relationship.  I've been told by a PsychD that I am ADD, and I've been told by another that I'm definately not ADD.  However I identify with the latter group, and believe that the intensity of a d/s or bdsm relationship focuses me such that I hyperfixate.  On alt dot com I'm SubspacePilot and the name is no misnomer.  My mind wanders easily but in certain areas I hyperfixate.  In the d/s relationship my hyperfixation excites my sub, which in turn focuses me even more.  Many poo poo the idea of Domspace, but to me it's quite real.  Some think that it cannot be good because the dom must have control, but to an ADD or ADD like person, the hyperfixation brings the ultimate in control.  I once saw a domme using a single tail on her submissive, some guy in the background was talking and laughing.  The sub was actually orgasming and in the middle of this, the domme turned and hit the guy's shoe cracking the single tail, then turned back to her sub.  The entire incident took less than a second.  Her mind did not wander.


So for those who lose focus, you might want to read about ADD, for if you have trouble with ED or orgasm and decide that you are ADD or ADD like a bit of methylphenidate may be the perfect medication for you, allowing your focus to remain on your partner.


Just some thoughts.



Thanks for the info.




Celeste43 -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/12/2007 7:50:53 PM)

Assuming he's your age, I would imagine he is using various illegal drugs, marijuana especially would cause this as will excess alcohol usage. Certainly antidepressants are among the most well known drugs to interfere with sexual function but other medications do also.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/12/2007 8:22:48 PM)

I thought you said you were a virgin.

In fact, I thought you've said it many times.

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

i have the opposite problem (if you can call it a problem)




redtailedman2002 -> RE: Can't stay hard (2/28/2007 7:44:25 PM)

Greetings.
Have you tried a cockring yet?
Works quite well at maintaining the erection as well as preventing premature ejaculation.
Please require him to have a complete physical preferably with you watching and listening.




shadevarr -> RE: Can't stay hard (3/1/2007 6:29:30 PM)

I've had the exact problem the OP mentions with one of my ex's and only her. Eventually I figured out I was just bored of boning her and everything I suggested to spice stuff up was met with a harsh no. It was a case of her limits were my must-haves and it just didn't float mr. winky's boat.




StacyCat -> RE: Can't stay hard (3/2/2007 9:06:37 AM)

OKay, if he is still masturbating, and able to get off by himself, then its probably not a medical problem.  In that case, ask him to stop masturbating.  If he keeps a hard on, but is unable to cum with you, ask him to start changing up masturbation habits.  A guy (or girl) that only masturbates and gets off one way will have a hard time adapting to another.

He is his masturbating, and not able to keep it hard for himself, then that might be a medical problem that he should get checked out, or it might be stress or depression.




Tslaveboy -> RE: Can't stay hard (3/9/2007 6:17:06 PM)

As for the part of never being able to get the guy off, I can relate. I have the same problem. It is called "delayed ejaculation" or "aspermia." It can be either physical or psychological. Since you say he says he can get off alone, it is probably psychological. Usual causes are being brought up in an overly religious home or fear of pregnancy. My problem comes from being afraid of impregnating a woman. Although one of the side effects of aspermia is that the man can usually maintain an erection for hours. He just can't ejaculate with another person.




BeachMystress -> RE: Can't stay hard (3/10/2007 1:21:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: obey1

As I have mentioned in another post, do not let the doctor prescribe any STATIN for cholesterol.  Cholesterol is only a risk factor, not life threatening, and should not be treated with STATIN drugs such as Lipitor as the side effects can literally kill you or cripple you for the REST of your life.  There is a big lawsuit building against these drugs.

Yup, I found this out the hard way. I spent 6 months of sheer hell while they figured out gee.. maybe I shouldn't be on any of the statin type drugs. By the end of the six months, I was in enough pain daily that getting out of bed was a major undertaking.

quote:

ORIGINAL: WalterRego

Er....what's wrong with statin drugs. Been taking them for a while and not noticed any adverse effects. Legal cite or website to the suit please?


Next time you have a question about something like this, the quickest way to get an answer is to go to google. In this case, you'd want to type in "statin lawsuit." Searching is most effective when you use words that are germain only to your search. If you were looking for information on the subject of the original post, you'd put in "maintaining erection."




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