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BitaTruble -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 8:37:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ethicaldom I wonder how many of the old guard dominant sees the bullshit going on by inexperience’s of dominants on here? What bullshit? quote: Friends let me here from you on this matter, and see if they’re is a way to put an end to it. Put an end to what, exactly? quote: I have but one voice, but if we all speak out as one there is power in that. Power to do what? quote: I am not here to judge anyone, or try to save the world, I just want to save a lifestyle I love and care about from being destroyed. Who's trying to destroy something, what are they trying to destroy and how is that you know about it and haven't stopped it already and why won't you tell us what the hell it is if you want some help? quote: I know there is many out there that feel as I do, let us talk, and put our voices out there to be heard. Here's the problem. You haven't shared how you feel about whatever it is your bellowing about. quote: Who if not us can speak wisely and knowledgeable, do we just sit back and do nothing at all? Speak wisely and with knowledge about what??? quote: We have no right to bitch if we do nothing to stop this. Bitch about what??? quote: I would like to here your thoughts on this. Hear thoughts on what??? I have no desire to go into battle being led by a man wearing a blindfold and gag. How about some information here on whatever it is that has you in such an uproar? Celeste

MasterFireMaam -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 8:50:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Noah quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam Noah, dear man, you know it's just WRONG to insult the Easter Bunny, right? Do you not want ANY cadburry eggs this year? Master Fire I raise chickens. The idea of chocolate eggs produces all kinds of cognitive dissonance for me. How's the weather out your way? Lord Noah...EVERYone knows chocolate eggs are laid by RABBITS. Get with the program here. Don't they teach you ANYthing on the farm? It's windy and heading for the single digits...only problem with that is I don't remember moving to Chicago. Master Fire

catize -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 8:56:12 PM)
Are you ranting against inexperience? quote: I am not here to judge anyone, or try to save the world, I just want to save a lifestyle I love and care about from being destroyed. And yet you seem to have a negative opinion about 'inexperienced doms'. How does anything I do, anyone else does, destroy your lifestyle? quote: I know there is many out there that feel as I do, let us talk, and put our voices out there to be heard Are we discussing 'shoes and ships and sealing wax; cabbages and kings'???

quietkitten -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:01:56 PM)
It is nice to know that some things always stay the same... lol!

Noah -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:12:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam Lord Noah... Please. Inside these walls you can just call me Noah. quote: EVERYone knows chocolate eggs are laid by RABBITS. Get with the program here. Don't they teach you ANYthing on the farm? I think you should inform Mr. Cadbury of the TOS. That whole getting laid by rabbits kink is way frowned upon here. quote: It's windy and heading for the single digits...only problem with that is I don't remember moving to Chicago. Time for Naked Snow Angels!

Ethicaldom -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:12:42 PM)
Clarification time, 'old guard' is NOT about age, it is about experience and beliefs.It is about having respect for others in this life, both Doms and Subs. We are not judging others lifestyle, that is between the two (or more) people involved. What we are referring to are the Doms and Masters on here that feel that Subs and Slaves are nothing more than receptacles for there urges or a warm body to be abused. Certainly there are Subs that crave that type of relationship and that is their right. But I keep hearing over and over again from Subs how instead of finding a Dom that they can build a relationship with they find fakes or self serving liars. Many leaving the site in disgust. A D/S relationship has to be based on trust and respect, if a Dom is dishonest from the start he isn't serious but just trying to 'play' someone who deserves better. As for fireproof clothing, I don't need any, I survived Viet Nam, I can survive this! Ethicaldom

domiguy -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:13:39 PM)
I think I saw some of the old guard at "Body World 2" Now showing at the Museum of Science and Industry In Chicago....Unfortunately they were the exhibits. out. D.G. p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.

Ethicaldom -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:19:49 PM)
You have the wrong Ethicaldom as this Ethicaldom has never been on yahoo. I know as I am his Sub

whisperedsighs -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:20:46 PM)
http://www.tdl.com/~thawley/oldgd.html http://www.leatherarchives.org/collections/oral/oral.htm

MsOpal -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:24:08 PM)
GEOFF!!!!!!! Yeee Haaaawwww, you do exist!!!! How's it going and all that? When ya commin' back for a visit? You'd be amazed at the .... eerruummm ... 'changes' around the old home place of late! but, seriously, hugs and howdy from old friends, now far away! Opal

Superslave29 -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:35:56 PM)
Ok to all that think Ethicaldom is gay, Let me clarify, nope I have been his collared Sub/Slave for 14 years and have been married for just over 10 years now and I can swear on my life he is 100% male and only loves me! And as for the term (Old Guard) it is used by many and not just gays. So for all you who wanted to know if Ethicaldom was gay NO WAY!!!! He is mine all mine. Am glad so many have choosen to chat on here, but the real subject is about how 4 young ladies I have made friends with have told me about how they were abused and some had taken up to 2 years to completely heal. This one Young Lady is now 19 years old so when we posted this it was to try and get idea's of how we can provent people from using this sight as a way to pick up young ladies and abuse them. Nothing more, so please if you have any sudjestions please feel free to contact Ethicaldom or DarkThunder. Have a great night.

Superslave29 -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:38:42 PM)
KarbonCopy, Why do you sound so upset is it because maybe we hit a sore spot? If not then why would you talk like that if it is nothing remotely what you do? No disrespect intended just inquiring is all.

juliaoceania -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:45:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ethicaldom Clarification time, 'old guard' is NOT about age, it is about experience and beliefs.It is about having respect for others in this life, both Doms and Subs. We are not judging others lifestyle, that is between the two (or more) people involved. What we are referring to are the Doms and Masters on here that feel that Subs and Slaves are nothing more than receptacles for there urges or a warm body to be abused. Certainly there are Subs that crave that type of relationship and that is their right. But I keep hearing over and over again from Subs how instead of finding a Dom that they can build a relationship with they find fakes or self serving liars. Many leaving the site in disgust. A D/S relationship has to be based on trust and respect, if a Dom is dishonest from the start he isn't serious but just trying to 'play' someone who deserves better. As for fireproof clothing, I don't need any, I survived Viet Nam, I can survive this! Ethicaldom Being submissive does not mean that we get a break from having to think for ourselves unfortunately. It does not mean that we check our brains at the door when someone claims to be a "dom". We do not get a pass on accepting responsibility for making bad relationship choices. If submissives on this site do not take steps to protect themselves against those who would use them and abuse them, well there are plenty of warnings about such abusers in this very forum. I have rarely seen general acceptance of the view that we as submissives should blindly trust strangers over the internet Submissives are known to hurt the dominant people on this site too. To feed them bullshit stories, bilk them for cash, and the like. It is just as wrong, and doms are just as forewarned. I do not know what spurred this rant here, but it is slightly misplaced, because most of the people that would act as you describe are not posting on this forum that I have seen... although I could be wrong about that... When you invent the magic failsafe to protect helpless submissives from their own bad judgment, please share it with me, because I have shown some bad judgment of my own. There is no policing the internet... and to be honest, I do not want it policed personally, I prefer freedom I suppose.

whisperedsighs -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:46:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Superslave29 Ok to all that think Ethicaldom is gay, Let me clarify, nope I have been his collared Sub/Slave for 14 years and have been married for just over 10 years now and I can swear on my life he is 100% male and only loves me! And as for the term (Old Guard) it is used by many and not just gays. So for all you who wanted to know if Ethicaldom was gay NO WAY!!!! He is mine all mine. Am glad so many have choosen to chat on here, but the real subject is about how 4 young ladies I have made friends with have told me about how they were abused and some had taken up to 2 years to completely heal. This one Young Lady is now 19 years old so when we posted this it was to try and get idea's of how we can provent people from using this sight as a way to pick up young ladies and abuse them. Nothing more, so please if you have any sudjestions please feel free to contact Ethicaldom or DarkThunder. Have a great night. UH DUH!!! it's the freaking internet. What is it with people? They come online and think that they aren't going to run into predators? What makes online community any different then the local bar, club etc? Get real, get responsible, and get smart. People need to start taking responsibility for the choices they make. If EthicalDom was trying to deal with the situation you just spoke of why didn't he say that instead of harping on and on and not being clear on what his concern is?

AquaticSub -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:50:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Superslave29 Ok to all that think Ethicaldom is gay, Let me clarify, nope I have been his collared Sub/Slave for 14 years and have been married for just over 10 years now and I can swear on my life he is 100% male and only loves me! And as for the term (Old Guard) it is used by many and not just gays. So for all you who wanted to know if Ethicaldom was gay NO WAY!!!! He is mine all mine. Am glad so many have choosen to chat on here, but the real subject is about how 4 young ladies I have made friends with have told me about how they were abused and some had taken up to 2 years to completely heal. This one Young Lady is now 19 years old so when we posted this it was to try and get idea's of how we can provent people from using this sight as a way to pick up young ladies and abuse them. Nothing more, so please if you have any sudjestions please feel free to contact Ethicaldom or DarkThunder. Have a great night. Umm... I don't remember anyone wondering about if he is gay or not. The question was more "Why is he proclaiming/hinting at belonging to/whatever a lifestyle that was orginally made (to the best of my latent information gathering) of gay men?" Next subject: Why do you care so much if people thought he was? It's not like it's an insult or anything... Topic B: If that was the actually subject of your post... it didn't come across anywhere. Newsflash: Abuse happens in vanilla world. It also happens in triple-fudge chocolate swirl world. Even the precious "Old Guard" had/has some abusive fuckheads. There isn't a lifestyle free of abuse. Unless you want to go be a Shaker. And there was probably something going on there too.

moonspirit43 -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:55:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania Being submissive does not mean that we get a break from having to think for ourselves unfortunately. It does not mean that we check our brains at the door when someone claims to be a "dom". We do not get a pass on accepting responsibility for making bad relationship choices. If submissives on this site do not take steps to protect themselves against those who would use them and abuse them, well there are plenty of warnings about such abusers in this very forum. I have rarely seen general acceptance of the view that we as submissives should blindly trust strangers over the internet Submissives are known to hurt the dominant people on this site too. To feed them bullshit stories, bilk them for cash, and the like. It is just as wrong, and doms are just as forewarned. A-freaking-men! You said what I was thinking much more eloquently than I could have stated.

valeca -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:55:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Superslave29 Ok to all that think Ethicaldom is gay, Let me clarify, nope I have been his collared Sub/Slave for 14 years and have been married for just over 10 years now and I can swear on my life he is 100% male and only loves me! ... He can't be gay because he's male?

whisperedsighs -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:55:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: moonspirit43 quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania Being submissive does not mean that we get a break from having to think for ourselves unfortunately. It does not mean that we check our brains at the door when someone claims to be a "dom". We do not get a pass on accepting responsibility for making bad relationship choices. If submissives on this site do not take steps to protect themselves against those who would use them and abuse them, well there are plenty of warnings about such abusers in this very forum. I have rarely seen general acceptance of the view that we as submissives should blindly trust strangers over the internet Submissives are known to hurt the dominant people on this site too. To feed them bullshit stories, bilk them for cash, and the like. It is just as wrong, and doms are just as forewarned. A-freaking-men! You said what I was thinking much more eloquently than I could have stated. ditto

MstrssScarlet -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:57:09 PM)
Wow. They just joined after Christmas and they're already trying to 'straighten us all out'. I'm touched. Really! Now go away. Mistress Scarlet

AquaticSub -> RE: CALL OUT TO THE OLD GUARD (2/5/2007 9:58:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: valeca quote: ORIGINAL: Superslave29 Ok to all that think Ethicaldom is gay, Let me clarify, nope I have been his collared Sub/Slave for 14 years and have been married for just over 10 years now and I can swear on my life he is 100% male and only loves me! ... He can't be gay because he's male? That's funny. I thought the qualifying thing about being gay is that you are male and into males. Or does that make you a lesbian? I get so confused sometimes... [:)]

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