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Kink in different countries and cultures - 2/6/2007 2:43:33 AM   
Vendaval


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Greetings A/all,
 
I was fortunate when starting my early journey into
human sexuality to have an older, more experienced
lover who turned me on to erotica and pornography
from other cultures.  I remember reading a very large
book, British, believe it was called, "The Pearl", filled
with all kinds of stories.  I did knot know at the time
that much of the material described such kinks as
fetishism, cross-dressing, spanking and the like;
just knew it really turned me on!  lol
 
For what it is worth, here are some other examples -
 
British erotica is very much about spankings, discipline,
stockings, garters and women's underwear.  I think
much of the spanking and discipline focus comes from
the school system and having to wear uniforms.
 
French erotica is all over the place, any kink or perversion
imaginable is present; bondage, floggings, sexual slavery,
prostitution, all sexual orientations, straight, bi, gay; group
sex and orgies.
 
German erotica has the most extreme S&M elements I have
seen, the most extreme bondage and the most severe discipline.
German kink seems the most hard, edgy and obsessed with
building the perfect machines.
 
Japanese erotica from long ago includes paintings of
samurai warriors coupling with concubines, women together,
two women pleasuring a man together, etc.  The modern animae
has a focus on schoolgirls, bondage, animals and robots! 
(A friend who lived in Tokyo told me you can buy used school
girls underwear from vending machines over there!
 
Anyways, what are some of Y/your experiences with Kink,
erotica, pornography, etc in other countries and cultures?
 
Regards,
 
Vendaval
 


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RE: Kink in different countries and cultures - 2/6/2007 5:50:33 AM   
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Thanks for the interesting post, Vendeval.

I was in France (Paris) last Summer, and have to say I think it was just such a beautiful city, and very clean, too (at least the parts of it I saw, and I saw a lot). I loved how they sold flowers on many street corners there. The people also seem to love chocolate a lot, too (so do I) - and also just appreciate everything being designer-beautiful. And of course, my hotel room had a Bidet (not that I used it - I had no need - I was with my immediate, very "vanilla" relatives during the entire trip).

Amost everything I saw or remember in Paris, France was artistically designed, it seemed to me - from the designer cut of the shruberry, to exotic, beautifully planned gardens, to the architecture of many buildings, to the door-knobs on hotel doors, and chandeliers on ceilings, to furniture, and of course - clothing. People always just took pains to look their best, it seemed - especially the women. 

**I must say my impression of Parisian women is that they do seem to enjoy (or at least not be offended by) being viewed as "sex objects"  - because they enjoy sex as much as any man, and seem less inhibited or "repressed" about this, generally, (to me) than American females are. They seem to think it's part of their job as a female to look good, and they do - they really look great for men, and for themselves, too (the Parisian women, in general - from what I observed, anyway). 

**French men are very chivalrous. They are very flirty with women in general, and pretty chauvanistic (or so I heard, when I was there) as far as what they consider women's "role" to be - (not that I care, I am a submissive, I can appreciate chauvanism). However, even a French  man who is a total stranger to a woman will come to her defense in public, if she is, say, being harrassed by another man and it's clear she does not want the attention. They are notoriously chivalrous in that way (which I think is nice).

And the French art! Beautiful pictures and artists studios everywhere, plus lots of great museums (I loved the Musee' D'Orsay the best, as fart as museums - it has all of the great Impressionist-era artworks. I just poked my head into the Louvre' - I was short on time, and there was so much else to see)!

**I saw the Moulin-Rouge stage show (which is a real tourist-trap type of attraction) - still, seeing the dancers dance the "Can-Can" as they had done a hundred years ago, was a treat. The fact the female dancers were nude from the waist up didn't seem to shock any of the audience - that just seemed to be "business as usual" in Paris.

**The dancers at the Moulin- Rouge were so flawlessly talented - I think many of them were graduates from the Paris Ballet academies. Nudity, or semi-nudity, seemes to cause about as much of a stir in Paris, as someone taking their garbage out to the curb-side for pick-up; nobody thinks it is unusual. The beauty of the human body is something that is celebrated there - especially the female form.

I can imagine the people there (France) having few inhibitions when it comes to sex - and wasn't that where the author if "The Story of O" was from? I think so.

I also saw London last Summer (for the first time) - and also appreciated the British culture very much. The people there were very polite to Americans (at least they were to me), and I also thought that London was charming, interesting and a very beautiful city. I loved all of the sights I got to see there - I saw the Tower of London, Kensington Palace, Buckingham Palace, Westminster Abbey, St. Pauls Cathedral, and many others. I got to take a cruise along the Thames river, and ate at some fabulous Pubs. I saw some fantastic museums (the Victoria and Albert museum was my favorite - I could have spent weeks in there - the place is absolutely huge).

***If I had not been with my "vanilla" relatives in both Paris and London, I'd have been very tempted to seek out a Dominant to meet for dinner, and to meet for an evening - but my relatives and I were all together all the time, and it was too risky for me to attempt - oh well!

**Alas, I have no specific kink reports related to my travels to either environ, only wishes re: What I'd have done if I'd been alone there (or with a gal pal who understood my bdsm inclinations) - but I will say that each city has a distinctly different "feel" than the other. Paris, France seemed to me to be more obviously un-inhibited, but - I got a feeling of an under-current of sexuality from viewing some of the art at British museums, and have a feeling the Brits are maybe just as  "kinky"as any French person, although perhaps not as up-front about it, is my guess.

I woud love to visit Japan someday. I know a man who spent a year there when he was in graduate school, and he really came away with an appreciation of their cutlture compared to ours - he thinks the Japanese are a very thoughtful people (as in contemplative - much moreso than Americans, generally, he said). I am under the impression this thoughtful attitude probably extends to the area of love-making and sex in general (bdsm included, in whatever variation it exist there), too. 

- Susan

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RE: Kink in different countries and cultures - 2/6/2007 6:26:37 AM   
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do very much agree that it interesting way of looking at things. It goes without saying that erotica or kinky can be for any culture something that is way beyond the cultural norm. Somethings are tied to tradition as well - depending to how far the extreme finds it being taken too. If the foot is the lowest and viewed as dirtiest part of the body as viewed in the culture norms - it can have a role in erotica that may not be seen so in another society. if a woman is wearing stockings, how does that fit into this pattern for what may be erotica in that society. is it more of a turnon for another cultural looking in at that one? Think the plaid mini is one of those items that is in all cultures liked for erotica. lol But then there are the Japanese and the schoolgirl thing - and no telling  where that come from.

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RE: Kink in different countries and cultures - 2/6/2007 8:16:28 AM   
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i have dated a couple of British men before - very chivarlous and gentlemanly (major flirts if they're single) in public however behind closed bedroom doors, watch out! oh the toys and fun i had with one. i've met British collarme dom, i could tell from his mannerism that he would be a strict disciplinarian but gentle. we still chat from time to time.

now i have friends in India who have made a couple of "blue" movies (porn) even though it's against the law to make and/or view since images because they wholly believe the body is a temple. even expression of public affection (like kissing and holding hands) isn't allowed either.  there are web cafes in Mumbai (i don't know in other places) where men can show their privates online however not their face. i have one friend who regularly has himself shaved in a public shop which he calls a blow job.


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RE: Kink in different countries and cultures - 2/6/2007 9:16:29 AM   
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Very interesting post! Yes I would agree that the Germans do enjoy S&M and the more extreme play.  I've heard that their Dominatrix's are pretty darned strict and nasty. They also seem to have a thing for uniforms as well.

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RE: Kink in different countries and cultures - 2/6/2007 10:04:13 AM   
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I've been fortunate enough to meet people from all over the world.  You're right erotica is a good guage but I would'nt hold it as the way it truly is either.
I know a wonderful dominant in Paris...he has no problem expressing himself and quite a large community he is in.  Yet, I also know someone a mere hundred miles away who lives in a community where the lifestyle is repressed.
So, I think all in all.  It is about where you live and how educated people are to the community you are in.
If they are educated you try different things more often than someone living in a repressed area.  Same as it is here.
Though the laws may be a bit different from region to region.

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RE: Kink in different countries and cultures - 2/7/2007 7:14:01 PM   
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VERY good post. Very informative, Thanks! I must definately learn more about this.

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RE: Kink in different countries and cultures - 2/7/2007 8:03:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO
And of course, my hotel room had a Bidet (not that I used it - I had no need - I was with my immediate, very "vanilla" relatives during the entire trip).


Maybe I'm missing something... but how did being with vanilla relatives make it so you didn't use the bathroom? Am I picking my travelling companions wrong?

Seriously, though, I don't see the connection... am I missing something obvious?


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RE: Kink in different countries and cultures - 2/7/2007 8:42:58 PM   
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quote:

(Paris) last Summer, and have to say I think it was just such a beautiful city, and very clean


Did you look down at the pavement at all?  Did they finally change the way they do things and folks pick up their dog doo?  Personally i was grossed out by the doo all over the sidewalks, but i was told that the next day its never in the same place.  Honestly, i found Prague to be much cleaner.

i'm like Susan.  i've traveled all over, but sadly with vanilla companions.  Twas born in Japan (yet sadly have only small knowledge of the culture) - living in HK in my teens (didnt worry about kink)  Been to Prague, Australia, Austria, Germany (couple of times), England/London (couple of times), Scotland (couple of times), Ireland, New Zealand, Mexico, some islands in the Caribbean, Jamaica, em Puerto Rico, France, the literal border of China....... and i'm sure a few other places but atm i cant remember.  Cant believe i havent gotten to Africa, India, Holland, Russia, Canada, Switzerland.  Those are key places to go eh? 

i'd really like to get to Istanbul.  Wonder what their kink life is like there?  Yeah, i've nothing to add, but i thought i would mourn with Susan about traveling and having nothing to report = (

oooooo but i did get into a convo the other day with a guy whose been arrested all over the world.  Now THAT was fascinating!  In Malaysia they do public whippings.  Hows that for kink?

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