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Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 3/10/2005 10:42:05 AM   
Alexander


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The literature is somewhat vague on guidelines for ending a stay due to discomfort. Are there any general guidelines for length of stay, and what level of discomfort is the signal for ending the stay?

Also I'd like some references to medical journal reports on corsetry that include health issues and discuss moderation.

Alex.



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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 3/10/2005 10:51:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Alexander
The literature is somewhat vague on guidelines for ending a stay due to discomfort. Are there any general guidelines for length of stay, and what level of discomfort is the signal for ending the stay?


By "stay" do you mean the length of time one can wear a corset? Or are you talking about the bone/metal/plastic strips that run vertically along the length of the corset? I am guessing the former...but I am a bit confused.

MzBerlin has quite a bit of knowledge on corsets...perhaps she will be willing to share.

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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 3/10/2005 10:55:26 AM   
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Yeah im basically saying, I have no frame of reference. When a girl says , "it hurts" I think , well no kidding, thats your pancreas bitching at you. I need some of the signs and conventional wisdom on the subject and a few folks with experience in the matter. Im talking about the more serious reshaping techniques.

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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 3/10/2005 11:47:13 AM   
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Ummm, please yes, do some research on corset-training as health issues can and do arise!! And, her pancreas could be bitching because it's being rearranged - such internal body-modifiation should be done and correctly!! A custom-fitted corset is essential for serious waist-training as the ill-fitting stays can cause concerns!! I am partial to Mistress Antoinette's designs at Versatile Fashions, but most makers can do a "waist-trainer" for a decent price!!

......."There are health impacts too. Kslave stopped drinking carbonated sodas when she started waist training because a compressed abdomen has less space to process the gas. There is the danger of a prolapsed uterus. Women who have heart or circulation trouble, who are pregnant, or attempting to become pregnant, should not waist train at all." excerpt from sexuality.org


And some useful links:

http://www.staylace.com/medicaladvice/med_t.htm

http://www.versatilefashions.com

http://www.waspcreations.com/contract.htm

http://www.romantasy.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=R&Product_Code=mon01&Category_Code=moc


Good luck and safe, happy corset-training!!


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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 3/10/2005 12:34:13 PM   
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A properly made and worn corset should NOT hurt. You should not be poked by bones, nor should you lace so tightly, so fast, that pain occurs.

As Lady T said, do some reading. Don't lace to fast, nor too tight, too soon. It takes work to reduce your waist!

Also, invest in the right materials. Don't expect and off the rack, non custom corset to do more than give you a pleasant shillohette. If you want to waist train, but a corset designed for such.

I have friends who wear their corsets 23/7. They are not in pain. There is pressure from lacing, but it should NOT hurt. Let the girl be the judge of how fast she can lace down. Also, for a first time corset wearer, estimate 4 inches is a decent reduction to get the first time out- that is, the very first time you put on a corset. I can reduce my waist by 8 inches, at the moment, and I wear my corset once a week, approximatly. However, I've been wearing it for quite some time.

Try http://www.livejournal.com/community/corsetry they often have good information.

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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 3/10/2005 1:25:54 PM   
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Thankyou, Taggard.

Alex
I don't think that I can offer up any thing besides what's already been posted. The WaspCreations link is one of my favorites.
As LadyT and perverseangelic said, a corset should never HURT. A bit of discomfort with tightlacing (I'm assuming that you're talking about extended wear corsetry and body modification, not just wearing one out and about) is expected.
Now, the medical community and the tight lacing community never see eye to eye. Tightlacing puts extreme pressure on your lower/floating ribs and can bend or break them. Tightlacing also reshapes your insides. Most physicians are not too keen on corset-wearers. I haven't seen many medical reports on the effects of tightlacing, but I've seen a few x-rays floating around the internet. If I stumble across them again I'll forward the link to you.
If you have any other questions, please feel free to message me or post them here.
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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 3/10/2005 2:03:37 PM   
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thanks guys. should have said "If a girl says, "it hurts"" rather then when. Not currently hurting anyone! :) Im still pretty amazed that theres no pain involved.

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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 3/10/2005 2:27:29 PM   
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quote:

thanks guys. should have said "If a girl says, "it hurts"" rather then when. Not currently hurting anyone! :) Im still pretty amazed that theres no pain involved.


In my experience with corsets, there's been no pain at all. What is difficult is you actually need to learn how to walk differantly...or that was my experience. I became accutely aware of completely differant parts of my body when I am in a real, well made, correctly fitted corset. My center of gravity radically shifted when I was put into my first corset in ways I wasn't expecting. I had a totally differant relationship with my hips and ass I never expected LOL.

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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 3/10/2005 3:18:53 PM   
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The only pain ive ever had when wearing a corset is when I wore a really cheaply made one.

A cheap one also falls apart so damned easy too. Don't waste your money on junk.

Get a REAL corset.

Check the links that Lady T posted above.



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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 4/22/2005 10:30:09 AM   
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I enjoy decent-made corsets and I have a few off-the rack that are decent after I replaced the flimsy plastic boning with steel bones (I have a fantastic seamstress). When I designed my first custom corset I realized after lacing it tighter and tighter that my design changed because it laced up the front and had points that came up from under my arms and were supposed to create the support and extra cleavage given by straps (you know of what i speak) but still strapless. The issue was that as I was able to lace tighter (laces in the front) the points pulled together more which did pull my breasts in more but then got more uncomfy and didn't eliminate the underarm pudge thing that i designed against. I hadn't looked at many corsets at that time but what I designed what a typical batwind design. I guess that front lacing is for simple styles if you lace a bit more or less on certain days. I myself am now partial to front busks, and steel boning is the only way to go! Also, the more panels the better. Good luck.

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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 4/23/2005 2:27:34 PM   
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So glad I've seen this posting because a corset is on my wish-list. Unfortunately I have Irritable Bowel Syndrome and don't want to run the risk of making it worse - but at the same time the IBS has basically destroyed any hope I had of having a proper waistline, I look pregnant a lot of the time. I dream of a wasitline*, even if it's not a particularly pronounced one :( Any fellow sufferers here?


* Of course my boyfriend says not to be so stupid I have a great waist - but he's biased.

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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 4/30/2005 10:09:49 PM   
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Ok let me chime in here as a neuro-muscular specialist. Anyting which restricts your breathing is not healthy for you.

High heel shoes are not healthy for you, so if you love these things you need to make extra efforts to do things like yoga, MindzBody, Tai Chi dance, walking in sand barefoot, to balance the abuse you are doing to your body.

Anyone wanting more technical advice is free to write me

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RE: Corset stays, levels of discomfort - 4/30/2005 10:10:42 PM   
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Ok let me chime in here as a neuro-muscular specialist. Anything which restricts your breathing is not healthy for you.

High heel shoes are not healthy for you, so if you love these things you need to make extra efforts to do things like yoga, MindzBody, Tai Chi, dance, or walking in sand barefoot, to balance the abuse you are doing to your body.

Anyone wanting more technical advice is free to write me

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