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The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:00:39 PM   
KurtKaboom


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Status: offline 		        I hate safewords!  They wreck the mood.  But I won't do the things I really like doing without consent.  It's a challenge.

     I'm planning something pretty radical for my next slaves transition to my ownership and I want to try something different for her out, opportunities to escape.  It's going to be a long duration psychodrama, 2or 3 weeks.  On a reguler basis, she will be left alone with a way to get away.  Before the cruise ship people get riled, these will be scheduled events, someone would be outside to take care of her, game over.  she'll go to a safe place, get good aftercare and a safe way back to her old life.

     I've done these scenes before.  Consent wasn't an issue as they were brought to me for punishment by their Masters.  Pain/Pleasure is always there but mostly its a psycho-emotional roller coaster, very intense.  I haven't done it with a new slave before or gone as long and depp as I intend.

     The escape alternitive seems like a workable plan to insure consent has not been withdrawn.  Any constructive thoughts on making it work smoothly?
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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:05:05 PM   
cjenny


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Status: offline 		I don't quite understand.. is this a sort of captive slave? I'm sorry but I just don't get what you're asking.


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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:10:44 PM   
KurtKaboom


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cjenny

I don't quite understand.. is this a sort of captive slave? I'm sorry but I just don't get what you're asking.




      Yes.  The prisoner motef will be the foundation of the psychodrama.  She will be in some form of confinement 24/7 be it in a room with me and a combination lock on the door, some form of bondage or in the box except at the appointed time.

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:12:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where does the escape come in?  Can you explain more indepth?

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:13:13 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Yeah I'm not really getting a clear picture either.

Specially the "get back to her old life"?  I thought this was a psychodrama to celebrate the transition to ownership?

Can you try and lay this out in a clearer way?

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:25:48 PM   
KurtKaboom


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Status: offline 		      She'll have walked in the front door on her own with some idea of what is to come and a horrible fat bastard will chain her up, make her cry scream and fear for her life.  The game will be very real to her.  Asking her if shes ok or taking a time out to talk about her feelings defeats the whole purpose.  Turning my back to her with the door open and her legs free or leaving her alone in a room with an open window does not.

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:30:20 PM   
cjenny


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Status: offline 		Thanks that does make it a bit more clear. It helped too, to read both your posts in a row so the concept could flow a bit.
It is something I wouldn't do, or be involved in so I don't know how things could be made to work smoothly for you.
Real fear isn't something I nor *luckily lol* my dom are into. Sorry I can't help.

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:31:54 PM   
KurtKaboom


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Yeah I'm not really getting a clear picture either.

Specially the "get back to her old life"?  I thought this was a psychodrama to celebrate the transition to ownership?

Can you try and lay this out in a clearer way?



       Its not a celebration of anything.  It is the first step in training a new slave.  If she escapes, she will be dismissed as unsuitable.  The people who "rescue" her will provide a closure to the psychodrama and she will not see me again.  Based on the previous slaves reactions, she won't want to anyway. 
      If she completes the training, there will be a celebration at her formal collaring.

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:32:48 PM   
MasterAdamn


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Status: offline 		Can I just say that if you are this incoherent in describing this scene or "drama", you should really give up on this entirely and not put this poor woman in harms way. And the harm in the way seems to be you!

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:34:27 PM   
cjenny


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Status: offline 		Why would she be unsuitable if she escapes? Especially since you are going to attempt to set the opportunity to do so.
I understand you want her captive & in fear now I am trying to understand the next step.

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:39:01 PM   
KurtKaboom


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ORIGINAL: cjenny
It is something I wouldn't do, or be involved in so I don't know how things could be made to work smoothly for you.  Sorry I can't help.


    Perhaps you might just sit quietly then?

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:39:07 PM   
twicehappy


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Status: offline 		After reading all your posts i want to ask; is this just fantasy or can you say 10 to 15 for kidnapping?   5 to ten for rape? 2 to 5 for unnatural sex acts? Along with 2 to 10 for assault?

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:43:11 PM   
cjenny


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quote:

ORIGINAL: KurtKaboom

quote:

ORIGINAL: cjenny
It is something I wouldn't do, or be involved in so I don't know how things could be made to work smoothly for you.  Sorry I can't help.


   Perhaps you might just sit quietly then?


Indeed. There really isn't much to discuss here, is there? *smiles*

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 3:59:25 PM   
KurtKaboom


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Status: offline 		     You can get all that for a boring scripted BDSM scene in a motel with safe words and no emotional impact.  In for a penny, in for a pound.

    What can go wrong is for her to not be taken out of the scene properly.  Me leading her out under the sky again as a proud new being is the goal, bathed clothed and treated with compassion and understanding by my neighbors before she is ready to go home is a poor second best.  Aftercare is the most important part of this.

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 4:00:28 PM   
catize


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  It is the first step in training a new slave.  If she escapes, she will be dismissed as unsuitable.  The people who "rescue" her will provide a closure to the psychodrama and she will not see me again.  Based on the previous slaves reactions, she won't want to anyway. 


This approach works well for you I see. 

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 4:02:28 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		People, I think you are being taken for suckers, read the guys profile...

It reeks of sarcasm.

As for the scene itself, I think it is pretty hot and completely consensual although I wouldn't do it with the type of person he is speaking of which sounds like a new inexperienced submissive.

Basically, he is setting up a scene where someone is "delivered" to him, the setup is meant to scare/terrify/intimidate the submissive and her way of safewording is to "escape" in ways he has left open to her.

The only reason it wouldn't work for me is that I would be the one having to "fake" the opportunities for escape which would make it less real to me than a safeword.

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 4:06:31 PM   
KurtKaboom


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Status: offline 		       And in the whole history of CM there has never been a real person behind a fun profile?  You of all SimplyMichael.

  No way would I do this with a newbie.

    The chances will keep it interesting for me.  After she cries herself to sleep in the box at night over the missed opportunity, how will I make sure she doesn't leave the next day?

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 4:10:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL, I would feel that escape would be success.............

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 4:12:05 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		I never said if you were "real" or not.  To write sacrasm well one must have a firm grasp of the subject.  "Duties will include frequent service topping, consisting only of you doing or 'making' me do exactly what I like " is sarcasm on a level I rarely achieve.
 
As for the experience of the person you used, the original post wasn't all that clear and that was how I read it.

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RE: The escape alternitive - 2/13/2007 4:25:56 PM   
kindaeasy69


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Status: offline 		I think I am missing what you are trying to accomplish.  So I’m wondering is the idea behind this that after a lengthy (2-3 week) “scene” she will have learned to love you and appreciate you?  You will be not just her captor but also her savoir?

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