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ClosetSinner -> Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 1:46:52 AM)

I saw this and was ashamed that it took place in Florida. Thankfully Orlando is about 3-hours from me so I wasn't that embarassed by it. It's just sad that a co-worker of mine found out about my lifestyle, and now this. I don't know how much exposure this story got, but it was in my local newspaper. I'm not sure if this is a repeat of a previous post or a new story.  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16662920/





Caitriona -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 4:30:53 AM)

That poor woman!  I had not heard anything about it on the news in my area.  It's always bothersome to hear those things because they reflect negatively on the lifestyle, but I guess that's the news the "sells."



SCDommie -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 5:21:39 AM)

This is not bdsm or bondage, it is true crime.  

People think stupid things some times.   This poor woman will never understand it.

SCD



seekstofasn8adom -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 5:31:34 AM)

I agree if true it's a real crime and not bdsm,they should lock this guy up and throw away the key.As rapeists don't derserve a quality of life,they should all be strug up.And be castrated and never ever allowed back into our society ever again.



asubmissiveheart -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 7:48:34 AM)

This man is a real whacko, sad thing is men raping their wives is not uncommon, though often not reported.
I hope he gets at least 50 years.



daddysprop247 -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 1:24:53 PM)

i remember hearing about this story on another (vanilla) site. now that i read it again, i have to say that although if this was nonconsensual, i feel for the woman and the suffering she had to endure, the activities described sound pretty "hot" to me. but then i'm a pervert, so take that for what it's worth. also, being the old-fashioned sexist that i am, i don't really believe in rape between a man and his wife. she was his....he did what he wanted with her. but with that aside however, there is no mention anywhere in the story of whether or not the wife agreed to or accepted what took place.



cjenny -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 1:30:18 PM)

If it was consentual between them then I feel really badly for both. I've been tied to a tree lol and if anyone wandered by I am sure they would think they're seeing abuse when in reality it was fun for us.
Ugh try to imagine explaining all of that to the authorities after the story has broken in the news.

If it was not consensual hey, he got caught.

The real key is that we won't know (in all likelihood) what the true background is to this story.



beltainefaerie -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 1:33:22 PM)

well, I think that it would be reported as a crime if it was consentual, unless, of course someone else saw it and reported it.  If it was consentual, I still don't think it would be reported on.  The fact that the police are saying she will be scarred indicates to me that it was not SSC. 

The main difference between "hot" and "terrible" is consent.  In a consentual scene these things would be hot, but out of that context they are appalling.  While you do not have "consent" to all actions at the time (or even most if I follow your posts right) you have consented as a whole to whatever your daddy wishes to do to you.  Not everyone has blanket consent like that in their relationship and it definitely seems that this woman did not wish these things to be done.



daddysprop247 -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 2:45:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beltainefaerie

well, I think that it would be reported as a crime if it was consentual, unless, of course someone else saw it and reported it.  If it was consentual, I still don't think it would be reported on.  The fact that the police are saying she will be scarred indicates to me that it was not SSC. 

The main difference between "hot" and "terrible" is consent.  In a consentual scene these things would be hot, but out of that context they are appalling.  While you do not have "consent" to all actions at the time (or even most if I follow your posts right) you have consented as a whole to whatever your daddy wishes to do to you.  Not everyone has blanket consent like that in their relationship and it definitely seems that this woman did not wish these things to be done.



of course i understand the difference, but as i said i still have the somewhat old-fashioned/sexist view that a man can use his own wife as he pleases. so while yes, she may have been harmed, physically and emotionally, and yes he might just be a cruel b**tard, this is still a husband and wife we're talking about here and i personally don't view it as a crime.



AquaticSub -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 7:32:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

of course i understand the difference, but as i said i still have the somewhat old-fashioned/sexist view that a man can use his own wife as he pleases. so while yes, she may have been harmed, physically and emotionally, and yes he might just be a cruel b**tard, this is still a husband and wife we're talking about here and i personally don't view it as a crime.


I'm iffy on the issue and kind of want to agree with you. But at the same time, I can't.

Every relationship is different and in ones where the wife agrees to exist in such an old-fashioned marriage, it's all gravy. Evidently she didn't. And regardless, it's still a crime. Under the law, our consent doesn't matter. You can consent, write out contracts all you want - your master is still breaking the law when he beats you. The courts don't care about consent.

Right or wrong... kinda iffy in a marriage. I have to say wrong here. But a crime? Yes, it is one.



LadyIce -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 7:34:34 PM)

I totally don't agree with you, you condone rape?



AquaticSub -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 7:36:55 PM)

She doesn't think it's rape if it's a husband/wife situation. At least that is what I'm getting. Correct me if I'm wrong of course. [:)]



ClosetSinner -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 7:48:08 PM)

Technically you can't "rape" your wife. This sounds really bad, but she consented to be with you "til death do you part" and seeing as she's not dead... But beyond that they are now acting on the regardless who, if they say no it's rape, married or not. So you may not feel it is, but in reality it is because he took away your choice.

As for the "sexist" thing. Think of it in reverse. Is a woman allowed to cut off her husband's penis? It belongs to her, she married him.



Lashra -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 8:00:50 PM)

No means no regardless if its your husband or the guy down the street. If  a man doesn't heed that NO call the police and have him charged with rape. marriage license or not.

My Mother was beaten and raped repeatedly by her first husband in FRONT of their young son. My Mother didn't agree to it, it was how he felt women should be treated and he wanted his son to LEARN from a pro. Sick? You better fucking believe it. Needless to say my half brother is an emotional mess as is my Mother

I know some women have real low self esteem and they feel being treated like shit is a good thing as they believe men are gods. I say hogwash. If its consensual play thats one thing, but REAL rape against her will thats another. If she doesn't stand up for herself she has no self respect she has allowed herself to become a "thing". Many of these women end up dead because their "men" have objectified them so much they don't see them as human. So killing them becomes quite easy.

~Lashra



AquaticSub -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 8:08:42 PM)

Certain people in this lifestyle think their master is allowed to kill them. Frankly I think that crosses the line of healthy and both parties should be put in therapy regardless of what they want. Or at least forced to be steralized because if partner A thinks they can kill or abuse their child's mother/father in front of the child they simply shouldn't be allowed to have children.

Fortantely there are laws and abuse can be reported by people other then the abusee. Depending on the severity and if there are children in the home, the abuser can be put away without anyone's consent. The downside is the outsiders can get cops poking into the lives of consentual BDSM. It's constent trade-off.



farglebargle -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 10:16:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ClosetSinner

Technically you can't "rape" your wife. This sounds really bad, but she consented to be with you "til death do you part" and seeing as she's not dead... But beyond that they are now acting on the regardless who, if they say no it's rape, married or not. So you may not feel it is, but in reality it is because he took away your choice.

As for the "sexist" thing. Think of it in reverse. Is a woman allowed to cut off her husband's penis? It belongs to her, she married him.



Round here, "No means No, and if you don't understand no, you'll likely get shot dead."




Lordandmaster -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 10:43:25 PM)

So it's just an illusion that he's been arrested and charged?

quote:

ORIGINAL: ClosetSinner

Technically you can't "rape" your wife. This sounds really bad, but she consented to be with you "til death do you part" and seeing as she's not dead... But beyond that they are now acting on the regardless who, if they say no it's rape, married or not. So you may not feel it is, but in reality it is because he took away your choice.



DiurnalVampire -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 10:46:16 PM)

You can rape your wife.  Legally, if she is not consenting to the act when it is done, it is rape. Trust me, been there done that already.

my 2 cents
DV



ClosetSinner -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 11:26:24 PM)

Wow should have checked back sooner. My view was misconstruded. I meant that for someone to say its ok to have their husband rape them is absurd. Rape is rape whether married or not. It's just sad that some people think that way. 



beltainefaerie -> RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" (2/15/2007 11:36:32 PM)

I think daddysprop247 can believe what she will and that she can view a marriage any way she wants, as long as it i her own.  it is when we try to make our world view everyone's that we have a problem. 

However, there are certain rules about such things in our society, and if there is no consent, it is rape.  Still, rape trials are hard enough as it is without adding in that the couple was married.  I think that while many people would agree that one can rape a spouse, a jury might have reasonable doubt.  Hell, in many rape cases they try to prove that because the victim has had sex with anyone, she must have been leading him on. How much more so in cases of date rape and marital rape.  It is so upsetting



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