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DominaSmartass -> Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:03:17 PM)

I think there are a lot of submissives (men at least I'm sure of) that have this grand fantasy of being made to sleep on the floor or in a cage, or somewhere other than in bed next to their dom. I have never done this with anyone I've been with either casually (like play partners) or intimately/romantically. A dominant female friend of mine does things very differently and even does not let her live-in sub/romantic partner of sorts sleep in her bed. His place is on the couch or sometimes the floor by her bed. She advised me to do this with my submissive romantic partner too, in order to keep him understanding his place, as she said. Well, it works for her I guess, but I am not happy unless I'm cuddled up next to him in bed. It brings me too much pleasure to have him with me that I feel like I'd only be punishing myself by putting him somewhere else. Plus, I've talked to him and he said that he would be appalled if I told him to sleep on the floor and would imagine he'd done something terribly wrong to upset me. I'm not saying that maybe at some point in the future I wouldn't have him do something like that because I want it, if our relationship gets more d/s perhaps. But for now, neither of us would get anything positive from it.

So my question is, are there any people here who do sleep "on the floor" either literally or just somewhere else that's away from your dom? (and no I don't mean if you're long distance.) And if so, who wanted this to happen? Was it your fantasy to be objectified and treated like less than your dom and thus not worthy of sleeping in his/her bed? Does your relationship dynamic assume that you are in fact not worthy of sleeping next to him/her? Maybe it's just "the way things are" for you, the rules of your d/s universe. I'm just very curious as to how common it is and why it occurs, who enjoys it, etc.

Some dominants I know seem to think that their subs have no place sharing a bed with them even if they do have a semi-romantic relationship. Others feel like it's only natural. Where do you stand?



FukinTroll -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:05:55 PM)

I think sleeping in the bed should be a reward.



ownedgirlie -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:09:30 PM)

When we are together (we do not live together) I either sleep on the floor or on the bed at his feet or on the bed beside him, depending on his mood.  The key about not making your sub feel punished when relegating him/her to the floor is to say, "You are not being punished; I simply want you here." or something to that affect.

The times I have slept on the floor I have had the floor and a pillow.  I am next to the bed so he can reach down and grab at me if he wants.  The difficulty in sleeping at his feet is he is a bit "kicky" in the night, lol.  As for what I want?  Well sleeping beside him is always delicious, but I am really just glad to be in his presence, no matter where he puts me.



ArgoGeorgia -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:10:33 PM)

I've made a sub sleep at my feet curled up under a tiny blanket when she was particularly naughty.  This was more of a punishment for her than spanking - she was a total closeness freak - and the next morning was much more civil.  And tired.  But civil. :-D



BitaTruble -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:17:29 PM)

I'm allowed to share his bed (when he's in town) 99% of the time these days. Early in our relationship, I was never even allowed to share his room, much less his bed. Eventually, I graduated to the floor of his room (almost always with a sleeping bag and pillow) and finally, to his bed. If we go to a hotel or something and he doesn't think the bed is large enough, it's back to the floor for me. I've noticed as I age, that sleeping on the floor has a much, much larger impact on me, so that sorta sucks, but then, I was never told that there wouldn't be sucky days to go along with all the good ones. I've also been sent to the lobby of various hotels when we travel if I'm snoring, so I've spent some nights sitting in hotel chairs as well. In those cases, I don't sleep, I just take a book with me and read all night although that hasn't happened for a long time since I learned to pack ear plugs when we travel. :)

Celeste



Celeste43 -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:18:00 PM)

He's with you on this. He wants me there by his side, he sleeps with an arm around me, one hand firmly on my breast. If he sentenced me to sleep somewhere else then he wouldn't sleep as well plus I wouldn't be there for him to ravage in the middle of the night.

The other thing about having to sleep on the floor is whether or not the sub can actually sleep like that. For some of sleep deprivation is a hard limit as we have sleep difficulties coming from chronic illnesses or pain such as arthritis sufferers deal with. And some of us suffer from insomnia as is. If the sub gets no sleep, their ability to handle things the next day is severely impacted, they might fall asleep at the wheel, make a mistake at their job that could cause them to be fired, cut themselves while preparing dinner etc.



MistressSassy66 -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:19:08 PM)

I can say that I have had several male submissives ask to sleep on the floor.

Depending on the submissive that was here,
I have had  them in the livingroom on the floor and chained up.
I let a few sleep on the couch again chained up.One I let sleep on the dungeon floor with no chain.I have wood floors,its not comfy at all,but what the hell.
When using a chain I leave a bell for them to wake Me up.Keys too but they would have to move the couch.I keep a set to all My locks on Me most of the time also.I like having at least two keys to every lock.

I only let bishop in My bed.Though there are exceptions to some rules.



sensualmagirl -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:27:44 PM)

I'm really new, only been with one Master... and I've never slept on the floor. I should mention that we also do not live together.

He and I discussed this in the beginning. I am really so new, and before I was with him, I had only done a lot of reading, and had read about the idea of sleeping on the floor (mostly in a fiction BDSM book... lol). He said if I felt more comfortable, I could (he laughed as he said it, was funny), but that me much rather preferred his pet by his side for his pleasure.  Not just about me and being comfortable, which he wants as well, but also for his comfort and pleasure he enjoys having me as close as possible.

Anyhow, that's just how it is for us [:D]

edited to add: I sleep like a baby when I'm next to him too, I am very appreciative!



justinasamerk -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:31:59 PM)

Greetings Domina Smartass,
sleeping on the floor is certainly a punishment in her dynamic. Sir has trouble sleeping and to curl  with his girl as she puts  her hands against his chest  and to smell her  warm skin, as well as feeling  the heat of her body against his at night helps him sleep. He calls me his furnace at times because she heats up so much  that she is on fire all night causing him to sweat.  When we sleep together he gets  a full restful night sleep. 
when things are  not good and she has lost her place, it is on the floor for her, this has a two fold problem, one it is really uncomfortable since he has hard  wooden floors, but he does allow her warm blankets and pillows, and the second thing he she knows the impact she has on him. knowing that by her on the floor she is not serving him at all. Its a double whammy punishment. 
She doesnt get a good night sleep and wakes up in pain, he doesnt get a good night sleep, and it gets cold at night, even with the blankets. 
Its a reward to sleep in his bed, and she has to earn it, but at any time she can be on the floor.
take  care Mistress Domina, sweet dreams,
justina, the sweet potato



TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:32:39 PM)

For me personally, I would view it as a punishment..now if Dominant would state that it was not a punishment but just something he wanted to do..then alright..of course there would be consequences as someone above me noted ,first off I would find getting up in the morning to be a singularily painful experience , then along with lack of sleep and not being in top form my response to any situation would be sluggish and my affect would me totally flat..and if such carried on, then it would also adversely affect my health and my ability to function at my job...Now of course you have those to whom this is a thrilling thing, with an ability to tolerate such ,and to those I say go for it!..but for this submissive it would not be a viable idea and as such it may require some Dominants to see the consequences of their acts and the ramifications thereof...Tempting



TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:34:39 PM)

I forgot to mention DominaSmartAss...if you prefer your submissive in bed with you then hence that is the way it should be, not what others do in their dynamic...Tempting



michellerose -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:42:13 PM)

my Sir does not allow us betas to sleep in the bed. we sleep in a second bed that the two of us share. our alpha sleeps in the bed with Him, though . the problem mostly is that the bed is simply not big enough for sir and three slaves, and my alpha has precedence. Sir is very touchy-cuddly, and enjoys the contact, but i can easily see him removing one or all of us from his presence for purposes or punishment, or just because he felt we might need the isolation for a little while.

at some point in the future, i might be put in a cage to sleep. (i'm actually looking forward to that. i liked the short time i was in the cage when i napped during everyone else's playtime.)

it all depends on your slave/subs's mindset, and your purpose, really. it wouldn't do much good to put me in the cage to sleep as punishment unless i knew that by doing so, i was missing getting to sleep next to Sir. if it was the cage or the slave bed, i'd rather have the cage any day. 

intent is a big part of everything.



DominaSmartass -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:52:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Celeste43

He's with you on this. He wants me there by his side, he sleeps with an arm around me, one hand firmly on my breast. If he sentenced me to sleep somewhere else then he wouldn't sleep as well plus I wouldn't be there for him to ravage in the middle of the night.



Whew! I was starting to think I was the only one, hehe. The first night we ever slept in the same bed together, I woke up with my hand still grasped firmly around his cock. He didn't get much sleep that night but neither did I. "Molesting" him in the night is one of my favorite parts of sleeping in the same bed. Of course I behave myself if it's a workday the next morning and let him get his rest. I do sleep better just knowing he's next to me. I guess it's lucky that I'm the one in charge so that I never have to have him sleep apart from me if I don't want to.



thetammyjo -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:57:55 PM)

Fox has his own room and he sleeps in a sleeping bag (his choice, I personally don't care as long as he gets the sleep he needs to be healthy and useful).

No, I don't think I would want my slave to sleep with me regularly. Mostly it's a role maintance thing for me and a reality thing -- husband sleeps next to me regularly. But when Fox takes me on trips he does sleep with me because I want a body next to me.



PandorasInspratn -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 7:58:40 PM)

My place is in his bed.  It's where he likes me, therefore....that's where I'll be.  I can't imagine, due to back, shoulder, neck problems that he would put me on the floor.  We got in a pretty bad car wreck one time that left me with the brunt (thank goodness) of the injuries.  I couldn't sleep in the bed, Master actually slept in the living room on the loveseat (both seat are recliners) with me.  I belong to him, I am his to take care of...  and he takes care of me as much as I take care of him.  
But that's just what this lifestyle means to us.  There's definately a power swing there, lol, and we do as he wants. Ok, rambling...the rest I think is for another thread.

...As a side note, I'm happy to have taken almost all of the injuries from that crash, because our 7 yr old was sitting directly behind me, and the impact point was in front of my seat.  All is great now....smiles...



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 8:02:05 PM)

I've done it, sometimes as reward and sometimes as punishment and sometimes it's just plain practical.

In my college dorm room, the bed barely fit my master, it was much better for us both that I use my sleeping bag on the floor.

I do also enjoy the objectification/symbol of dynamic aspect to it.

But generally it makes for not as well rest, not so much cuddling...and that one night I had to sleep on the floor while my master played and fucked his two other slaves was really one of the hardest in my life.

Of course, nothing beats being told by someone that your master is ABUSIVE because he made you sleep on the floor.

adding:  I do also continue to enjoy that my partners and I maintain separate bedrooms and beds, even if I usually don't sleep alone these days.



PandorasInspratn -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 8:10:54 PM)

I find it absurd when people who share the same lifestyle say it's abusive, I can kind of undersstand it form the vanillas.  But I have never understood it form the kinky people....





AquaticSub -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 8:12:03 PM)

Valyraen has never had me sleep on the floor. I don't think it's ever occurred to him (though he just chimed in that he would only make me sleep on the floor if I was kicking [:)]). Honestly, I've had some little fantasies of sleeping on a pad of furs but I have enough trouble sleeping as it is. I dunno if we'd ever give it a shot, that's up to him.



Wildfleurs -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 8:18:25 PM)

I've slept on the floor next to the bed that my owner was sleeping in.  It wasn't a punishment or anything like that, it was just the place I ended up sleeping for a few days (its been a while since it happened so my memory on the why and such is a bit fuzzy).  I wouldn't mind doing it again, but my preference is always to sleep in the bed with my owner.  These days my owner likes me in the bed with him also, so I'm in the bed with him.

I think sleeping on the floor or in a separate bed or room is definitely a concrete reminder of place and even though its been a while since I slept on the floor, I certainly remember it and appreciate the privilege of being able to sleep next to him.

C~



LadyHugs -> RE: Sleeping on the floor (2/16/2007 8:22:54 PM)

Dear DominaSmartass, Ladies and Gentlemen;

In my salad days in the lifestyle, all slaves slept on the foot of the bed on the floor.  Some bound and some unbound.  It needs to be said, that what a Dominant sees in their mind's eyes as 'fitting' or proper is important.  It is also important to put the reality of the slave's physcial comfort in mind.  Older slaves just cannot be expected to get up and down from a floor as easily as some younger slaves.

For me, I cannot sleep well with someone in bed.  I am a light sleeper so what I need to be at my best is just as important for slaves.  I would find what works best for you both.  I couldn't sleep if someone snores, so I would put a slave in a far room to sleep on the floor if able and or bed if older and meets to the comfort of the slave, especially if they work/have a job.  If I need the slave, I'll ring a bell or use a intercom / baby monitor to call them.

For me, slaves in or on my bed is an honor not an expectation.  It is my private place and they are invited in and stay as long as I wish them to.  Then they are dismissed to their own sleeping spots.  When nobody has to work, I'll let slaves sleep in my room around me.

As far as cages and kennels.  It depends on the slaves.  Confined spaces can bring on problems, especially with more older slaves.  Occassional use, I have no real problem.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs



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