Real0ne -> General Hayden Explains the 4th Amendment (2/16/2007 10:34:02 PM)
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*Michael Hayden, press conference January 23, 2006. Surely it's not too much to ask that the officials who are entrusted with the ability to spy on virtually any electronic communication have an appreciation of how this amendment limits that ability. Yet in a question-and-answer session at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. on January 23--before an audience consisting largely of journalists--Hayden repeatedly demonstrated that he does not know the basic language of this key part of the Bill of Rights. The subject came up when reporter Jonathan Landay of Knight Ridder attempted to preface a question by stating that "the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution specifies that you must have probable cause to be able to do a search that does not violate an American's right against unlawful searches and seizures. "Hayden interjected: "Actually, the Fourth Amendment actually protects all of us against unreasonable search and seizure. That's what it says." Landay politely corrected him, saying, "But the measure is 'probable cause,' I believe." But Hayden insisted: "The amendment says 'unreasonable search and seizure.'" When Landay continued, "But does it not say probable--" he was interrupted by Hayden, who said, "No.... The amendment says 'unreasonable search and seizure.'" Landay went on to ask his question, which was whether the NSA, by bypassing the special court mandated by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, had "crafted a detour around the FISA court by creating a new standard of 'reasonably believe' in place of 'probable cause.'" Hayden's response returned to the issue of the Fourth Amendment: "I didn't craft the authorization. I am responding to a lawful order, alright? The attorney general has averred to the lawfulness of the order. Just to be very clear, okay--and, believe me, if there's any amendment to the Constitution that employees at the National Security Agency is familiar with, it's the Fourth, alright? And it is a reasonableness standard in the Fourth Amendment. So, what you've raised to me--and I'm not a lawyer, and don't want to become one--but what you've raised to me is, in terms of quoting the Fourth Amendment, is an issue of the Constitution. The constitutional standard is 'reasonable.' And we believe--I am convinced that we're lawful because what it is we're doing is reasonable." ---------------------------------- The Fourth Amendment actually states: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized." ---------------------------------- Video clip of the hayden interview as shown on msnbc: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/260106generalhayden.htm Better Video clip of the hayden interview, Alex Jones version showing the reporter too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocpgg6QVShs See the full article above here: Press ignores Ex-NSA chief's ignorance of Constitution http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2808 He even made wiki! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hayden Here Gen. Hayden former Director of the NSA assures the American people that we are protected by the 4th amendment and no American phone ... all call is ever touched. His statements are sickening, now that we all know the reality of the matter. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599450930169678075&q=Hayden%2Bamendment&hl=en Not one mention is made in any gov report of bombs going off in wtc yet thousands of people testify there was, it can be seen and heard on videos, news reporters said on the news that bombs were going of, yet no mention of bombs in any gov report, not fema, not nist, not asce. Could it be that just maybe its because gw's brother marvin was in charge of wtc security? Now a guy who claims to follow rewritten 4th amendment laws is in charge of people and agencies who would spy on us? Add that to the patriot act, the right to spy on anyone or thing considered "terrorist"! Add that to Hayden is supposed to consolidate all our security agencies. i do not believe for one new york second that bushs choice of hayden to head up the security of the us is anything less than "by design". (not just another ignorant bush appointee) Especially after seeing what happened with the wtc where his brother marvin was in charge of security. Of course all those bombs that can be seen and heard in the wtc videos were just kids playing with fire crackers and its just coincidence there was no mention of them in any gov report.. Nah, nothing going on there! sleep well kiddies r1
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