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RE: "True" term on line.... - 2/19/2007 9:09:23 AM

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To the OP,

For most people who use the word true it is probably an ill thought out attempt to show how serious they are. An attempt to get up on a soap box and scream look at me I am legit and not some other type that is on here. Unfortunately it is a waste of space in a profile or message.

When people write calling themselves true, real, honest, trustworthy, intelligent, hard working, financially responsible, and probably a bunch of others I cannot think of it is not so much that they say these things but how they say these things and what else do they offer up about themselves.

Almost all these qualities are really an eye of the beholder type qualities and can only be given to you by the person after they get to know you. It is when people that scream these things in their profile as a way to make themselves be better then others that they perceive are online is when it becomes quite lame. Simply put, name one person who would not describe themselves these qualities. In the end it is just an ill thought out attempt of some way to short cut to the front of the line by ripping others.

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RE: "True" term on line.... - 2/19/2007 9:35:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: toservez

To the OP,

For most people who use the word true it is probably an ill thought out attempt to show how serious they are. An attempt to get up on a soap box and scream look at me I am legit and not some other type that is on here. Unfortunately it is a waste of space in a profile or message.

When people write calling themselves true, real, honest, trustworthy, intelligent, hard working, financially responsible, and probably a bunch of others I cannot think of it is not so much that they say these things but how they say these things and what else do they offer up about themselves.

Almost all these qualities are really an eye of the beholder type qualities and can only be given to you by the person after they get to know you. It is when people that scream these things in their profile as a way to make themselves be better then others that they perceive are online is when it becomes quite lame. Simply put, name one person who would not describe themselves these qualities. In the end it is just an ill thought out attempt of some way to short cut to the front of the line by ripping others.

Im not sure what you are saying. Are you saying that people shouldnt put any qualities in their profiles??? Are you saying that qualities like intelligence, being hard working, being honest are only able to be judged by the "beholder"???

While there may be different points of reference as to what stupid and intelligent is I think that most would agree that holding a Master's Degree would imply intelligence, as would holding down a regular job imply working... Honesty may seem more fluid, but either someone is a damn liar or they arent.

What is the point of a profile if not to share who you are? Perhaps most people DO lie on their profiles or when they write, but I dont think its a great way to approach people to ASSume that everyone is lying or bluffing or exargerating when they share. SOME of us actually are intelligent and well educated.. SOME of us are honest and dependable, etc... That may set me apart, or seem to be crying out about my qualites...

But if I was goiing to bluff or lie about who I am... why say Im intelligent and honest when clearly those traits in women here arent in high demand... LOL.. It would be better to say Im bendy and flexible and the most beautiful woman on the planet earth (and also in other solar systems!!!) And Im the bestest most submissivest slave in the universe... Oh that Im also young and innocent yet can suck you until you are unconscious too!!! LOL..

Hmmm I think Im done here... LOL... See how my mind works when snowed in for SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many days...!!!.. LOL..

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RE: "True" term on line.... - 2/19/2007 9:51:12 AM

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You can infer you are intelligent like stating you have a Master’s degree and then there is making a blanket statement that you are intelligent. The person reading can go Masters Degree and get something from that through their interpretation. Saying you are intelligent is one big yawn because everyone thinks they are intelligent. To combine I am intelligent then making a case for it then goes into the arrogance area.

It is how you list your qualities not that listing any is bad. The qualities I happen to mentioned are just ones that everyone believes they have and just take up space in a profile. They are not bad to state as long as the person understands that stating them does not really do anything other then make there profile look like everyone else’s and to list them in a way to try to make yourself look special or to assume others you have not met do not have such common and basic qualities goes into an arrogant and negative place that simply put, is not attractive.

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RE: "True" term on line.... - 2/19/2007 1:57:38 PM

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quote:

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You can infer you are intelligent like stating you have a Master’s degree and then there is making a blanket statement that you are intelligent. The person reading can go Masters Degree and get something from that through their interpretation. Saying you are intelligent is one big yawn because everyone thinks they are intelligent. To combine I am intelligent then making a case for it then goes into the arrogance area.

It is how you list your qualities not that listing any is bad. The qualities I happen to mentioned are just ones that everyone believes they have and just take up space in a profile. They are not bad to state as long as the person understands that stating them does not really do anything other then make there profile look like everyone else’s and to list them in a way to try to make yourself look special or to assume others you have not met do not have such common and basic qualities goes into an arrogant and negative place that simply put, is not attractive.

Perhaps to YOU being educated isnt important. I know alot of women arent encouraged to be highly educated. I dont think that stating that one has a Master's Degree and is intelligent is being arrogant. It is simply stating that which is.

Perhaps intelligence is a big yawn for YOU LOL but I know that not everyone DOES think they are intelligent.. Sadly many women dont feel that they are intelligent. Im sorry if this is sore point or a trigger for YOU.

And I dont think that everyone lists the same qualities in their profiles, since its pretty clear that not everyone wants the same things. Im quite surprised at what some people say about themselves or say they want in a partner. I find most to be shallow, and not well thought out unless that is as much thought as they are capable of when writing... LOL..

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RE: "True" term on line.... - 2/19/2007 2:35:35 PM

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First, I had a good chuckle at the Domly Velveteen Rabbits reference.

Now, it's my perception that sometimes people will use terms like this to indicate they do try to live the life. Walk the walk, not just talk the talk, yanno?

There are also some that no doubt use it in an attempt to convince themselves and those around them.

And of course others that use it in an attempt to convince those around them that they're not fake...

I have yet to meet a dominant for whom I have respect use these terms. When I think of these types of individuals, the term "natural" comes to mind, though you wouldn't hear them say it.

Always remember, ya gotta watch out for the quiet ones..*grins*

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RE: "True" term on line.... - 2/19/2007 4:13:14 PM

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Always remember, ya gotta watch out for the quiet ones..*grins*

Oh, for God's sake, don't warn them!!!

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RE: "True" term on line.... - 2/20/2007 5:45:43 AM

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chuckles...knowing they have moved on to other discussions before now...lol

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RE: "True" term on line.... - 2/20/2007 8:41:01 AM

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Perhaps to YOU being educated isnt important. I know alot of women arent encouraged to be highly educated. I dont think that stating that one has a Master's Degree and is intelligent is being arrogant. It is simply stating that which is.

Perhaps intelligence is a big yawn for YOU LOL but I know that not everyone DOES think they are intelligent.. Sadly many women dont feel that they are intelligent. Im sorry if this is sore point or a trigger for YOU.

And I dont think that everyone lists the same qualities in their profiles, since its pretty clear that not everyone wants the same things. Im quite surprised at what some people say about themselves or say they want in a partner. I find most to be shallow, and not well thought out unless that is as much thought as they are capable of when writing... LOL..

You missed my point.

My point was just to write I am intelligent or other things of that nature are a waste of space in a profile and not that it is something that is not important as a quality in a person.

The person reading the profile and one who has more contact will think for themselves if the person is or is not intelligent to them. Do I think though putting information or how one writes trying to show they are intelligent to be wrong, heck no, so my point was a person going I am true/real/intelligent/honest and this makes me better then others on here is a waste because they are statements that have to be proven over the course of communications and interactions between two people.

If a person uses spell checker mentions advanced degrees and any other thing that is associated with being intelligent to me that is a very good thing. It is helping me think they are intelligent and making me attracted to them just as long as it is not some tirade to make themselves feel better then others who they do not know.

As far as someone believing that they are intelligent and the importance of that, it has zero to do with a profile or message on a personal site and a person needing to know, tell or show others how intelligent they are is a self esteem issue and not about IQ points.

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