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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 5:08:41 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Well, as is stated a few times in the other threads, one COULD say that a master is punished by negative consequences (bad behavior/lack of goals/more energy needed to enforce training and communicate, etc).  But that's not an intentional choice enacted to alter the behavior of the dom as the traditional definition of punishment is.

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 6:19:31 PM   
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Omg FTroll are you my neighbor? Heh I live on a dead end road n play with a gun too!



ok.. so it's a bb gun. it still is a gun. sorta. 


Now your just being silly. If I was your neighbor you wouldn't be posting right now.

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 7:50:49 PM   
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What is a good way for a submissive to punish her Master?


The only thing i can think of is to ask for release.

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Do you think that surprising him with 2 Men waiting for him who will then overpower him, and have their way with the submissive while her Master has to helplessly watch, would do the trick  


That would probably get someome injured.

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 8:36:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

Just walk away.  Since you don't have a grasp of what consent means, it's probably wisest for you to avoid anything like BDSM


This post states it all.

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 8:56:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

Just walk away.  Since you don't have a grasp of what consent means, it's probably wisest for you to avoid anything like BDSM


This post states it all.


Maybe. Maybe not.

His profile list him as a switch.  He could be in a situation where he was involved with another switch who was the more dominant one in the relationship but they did switch roles with one another.  That would make sense to me given the way his profile reads.

I know I have things in mind for my little one that we haven't discussed.  I do also know how she feels about different topics and our relationship.   I have full rights to pull a surprise with no need for clearing consent. 

Just a thought, personally I don't take any of his post seriously.

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 9:44:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveish

Uhh ... ~chuckle~

This is reminiscent of something my Sir once made me do. Perhaps He was commanded to post this, or perhaps He is simply being outrageous. He seems to have quite an interesting personality.


and... did you like it?.... and if you did, you sound fun!

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 9:49:29 PM   
YourhandMyAss


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Status: offline 		I had  the chance to punish my Dominant once, I'd behaved so horribly and rudely he said since I acted like the one in charge, I was to punish him, since I was obviously in charge here. I couldn't bear to hit him, and I cried and took my punishment, but it wasn't for fun or for kink. IT was a real situation.

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 9:51:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kinkntwist

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ORIGINAL: slaveish

Uhh ... ~chuckle~

This is reminiscent of something my Sir once made me do. Perhaps He was commanded to post this, or perhaps He is simply being outrageous. He seems to have quite an interesting personality.


and... did you like it?.... and if you did, you sound fun!


So... did you post this trying to get wank fodder? *is confused*

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 9:57:30 PM   
kinkntwist


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what if the Dominant were to give a "blanket permission" for such a punishment, as a kind of Dare or Test to see just how wicked his sub is?

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 9:59:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Right.... I'll make sure to be very careful in wording my responses to you from now on. And turn on my HNG radar...

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 10:15:35 PM   
JohnWarren


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ORIGINAL: scottjk

Woah...

I did NOT expect to see John Warren on this site.



Yup, I hang around occasionally

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/22/2007 10:24:45 PM   
scottjk


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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: scottjk

Woah...

I did NOT expect to see John Warren on this site.



Yup, I hang around occasionally


Well, I enjoyed The Loving Dominant a great deal, and it's a pleasure to see you here as well. :)



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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/23/2007 5:43:22 AM   
andreaC


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Like it or not, the whole dynamic is set up such that the submissive is the one who receives punishment or discipline or whatever you wish to call it, IF punishment or discipline is an entity within the D/s dynamic of a particular couple (or group).  If you feel that your master has done something in error...hence why you feel he needs to be punished...then you should probably ask to speak to him about it.  He may agree with you.  He may not.  He may apologize.  He may not.  He may take your reasoning and show you where you are wrong.  Whatever happens...even if he admits he did something wrong and apologizes to you for it...there is no punishment of a dominant by a submissive.



Like Sir said, i do agree with Him.  I would have to be completely insane if i was to do that to Master, i will regret it very much.  If there is something he has done wrong i always communicated with him and that will never change.



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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/23/2007 7:06:35 AM   
Synocense


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Status: offline 		I think your profile was informative and your "best truth" ......
That said...  it sounds like it all boils down to resistance on some level.
Never hurts to remind..... Just be certain it is always consensual : ) 

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/23/2007 7:06:35 AM   
Celeste43


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Status: offline 		If he did something that I couldn't forgive, I wouldn't be looking to punish him, I would just walk.

Anything else doesn't merit punishment, it merits communication and changes in the relationship to prevent a reoccurance.

And your profile is just weird. You demand somebody overpowers you physically and emotionally every minute of every day or you will tie them up and invite strangers in to rape them. But obviously you aren't ready for a relationship so you prevent yourself from having one by posting obvious wank fodder  as serious. The rest of us just say looking for friends only.

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/23/2007 7:21:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've given my post to your original question but I just have to chime in on something else...

I suppose, if the old saying is true about there being someone for everyone, that there is someone out there who is just right for the you described in your profile.

But in all honesty, in MOO, then you would have two people playing at a dangerous game of "Dom/sub...who is which today?".  A game because it sounds as if your dominance or submission depends on their level of strength in maintaining the opposite role and not on negotiated consent and agreement to each partner's role.  Dangerous because your seeming ability to change at will and and infinite capacity and delight for surprises of a twisted nature...at least according to your profile... has the potential to set up situations such as the one described in your original post that could turn dangerously ugly rather quickly.

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/23/2007 10:08:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ya know.. Since you seem to have a desire to get your partner to adopt the slut mentality again and it doesn't appear to be happening for you.. MAYBE you have chosen the wrong partner.
Seems to me its better to bail now so you can both find what you need.
Kyst

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/23/2007 1:03:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: scottjk

Well, I enjoyed The Loving Dominant a great deal, and it's a pleasure to see you here as well. :)


Thank you.  I don't post as much as I used to.  Partly because this is a pretty clued group and by the time I see a notestream someone (often LA) has pretty much said what I would have and partly because I'm working on the third edition now

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RE: Another fancy Question for experts - 2/23/2007 1:44:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: scottjk

Woah...

I did NOT expect to see John Warren on this site.



Yup, I hang around occasionally


And sometimes he just sits

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