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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 8:19:26 AM   
CrazyC


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


~shudders~...yanno, it is just a bit scarey though as to how many vanilla women use that paragraph...or something very akin to it.


hehehe yea i know, and i feel so bad for the husbands. Sex should never be used like that.

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 8:28:16 AM   
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Yes.. there is nothing more emasculating and threatening to your very domly nature than a woman who knows and defines her boundaries as she has come to identify them through the course being knocked about in life.  The fact that they may be limits for a very good reason is totally inconsequential to the fact that it is terribly unbecoming in a doormat...er submissive.


Pretty much sums it up.

The fact is there is a writing skill, thought and effort quotients to making a decent profile and women are just as susceptible as men into making mistakes by not paying attention to one of these parts. So yes, there are plenty of profiles from women submissives that come off as a joke on this site.

For anyone, including women to have a profile made up almost entirely of demands or negative rants is of course quite unattractive and you wonder have they serious thought out what they were writing.

This by no means though means what puella wrote and others where people actually have put in things through experience and self awareness that have the ability to tell a person what they are looking for and if two people might be compatible. Apparently no one wants a doormat but some people want to pick us like we are an item at a store, cannot have it both ways.


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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 8:43:31 AM   
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well its the same reason i wont call anyone daddy....if you can put 2 and 2 together then you will understand......


Daddy don't get no BJ's......?????

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 9:04:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CrazyC

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


~shudders~...yanno, it is just a bit scarey though as to how many vanilla women use that paragraph...or something very akin to it.


hehehe yea i know, and i feel so bad for the husbands. Sex should never be used like that.


"Husbands?" What about men who use their wives like that? It's truly not a gender-specific thing.

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 9:14:33 AM   
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another cutious thing i noticed, is that the more desirable subs also seemed to be more reasonable. the really out there ads were all from women that were old, severely obese, odd looking faces and living somewhere in a small town. i cannot say i saw any ads from male subs that seemed out of line

someone's certainly full of himself today. beauty is fleeting young man and it doesn't last forever.  just remember when you're old, gray and your bits-n-pieces don't work properly, some young hot submissive might turn you down for the same reason you posted here.

in other words - karma is bitch so be careful of what you say.


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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 9:20:23 AM   
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"Husbands?" What about men who use their wives like that? It's truly not a gender-specific thing.


Sorry. Your right it can happen that way too. Just speaking from my own unhealthy experiences. I am always the other woman.

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 9:25:51 AM   
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reading some profiles tonight, some bizaarely demanding subs on here. i usually just wait and see who writes me and all of them have been quite nice indeed. but damn, some of these subs have more lists of what their hard limits are than their likes. so wack. it seems like most of them that are like that are married and on disablility for mental health, not exactly a big selling point to me


With all due respect, it's a subs/slaves market. Those that identify as such can pick and choose. And they can be demanding because they know they've got the upper hand. Especially females. Seriously, the number of sub females to male doms in the scenes is trippy. Think about that next time you want to master someone's azz. *grins*


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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 9:33:37 AM   
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This seems liek the reverse of the usual complaint of overly demanding Female Dominants and the male subs that are looking. I suppose its a female market in general. As in the everyday dating world, we are the ones being pursued, not usually doing the pursuing. Becasue we are the ones being chased, we can be pickier.  Were it reversed, were there an overabundance of females and a small population of available males, then the males would be the ones getting overwhelmingly picky.  If you know you can name your price, why would you settle for less than exactly what you want?

I know as a Dominant my hard limits come from experiences I have had.  Hard limits, or limits in general, are necessary for some people to be comfortable in getting involved.  With trust, most of the time the limits can be renegotiated. The long list of limits is a good way to weed out people who have interests that are way out of line with your likes. I always found it more problematic to deal with the ones who have a list of likes and "must haves". If I am in control, I dont mind being given things that I cannot do.  I dont like, however, being told what is NECESSARY for someone to have in order to be able to serve me.  If you must have something, wether or not it is my interest, then you are taking away my ability to lead, and therefore my interest.

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 10:04:18 AM   
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another cutious thing i noticed, is that the more desirable subs also seemed to be more reasonable. the really out there ads were all from women that were old, severely obese, odd looking faces and living somewhere in a small town. i cannot say i saw any ads from male subs that seemed out of line
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ORIGINAL: azzmaster

I serioulsy dont know what your problem is. If you want a perfect sub make her yourself. If your as intelligant as you claim to be im sure you can find someway of making a robot... I looked at your profile and I honestly didnt see anything on there of interest except that you claim to be an expert at almost everything..Dude your only 34 years old get over yourself...ok so you dont like over weight women so what, alot of us out there dont like skinny ass men but do you hear us complaining about how skinny most men seem to be...fuck no.What is an odd looking face? Someone who dosent stand up to your standards of beauty? and if your bisexual why are you only looking at womens profiles? all im saying is that you seem to be preety critical of others when you really should be taking a look at your profile and see how it makes you come off arrogent...of course noone is going to want to email you.....


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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 10:06:44 AM   
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Maybe for you, but I have found all my partners  as an adult online, through sites like this, and once onyahoo personals.  I have the best luck online since I don't get to events much, most I don't even care for. Going to a club is not condusive to  getting to know someone. most people I know, and myself included, do not go to sit around and talk to people to hopefully find a match, I go to play and I don't want 20 questions when I am playing.


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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

One thing I have never understood is why look for a BDSM partner online when the best place to go is munches, fetish fairs, clubs etc.

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 11:34:04 AM   
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someone didn't take his own advice seriously

quote:

ORIGINAL: duckykarma

quote:

another cutious thing i noticed, is that the more desirable subs also seemed to be more reasonable. the really out there ads were all from women that were old, severely obese, odd looking faces and living somewhere in a small town. i cannot say i saw any ads from male subs that seemed out of line
quote:

ORIGINAL: azzmaster

I serioulsy dont know what your problem is. If you want a perfect sub make her yourself. If your as intelligant as you claim to be im sure you can find someway of making a robot... I looked at your profile and I honestly didnt see anything on there of interest except that you claim to be an expert at almost everything..Dude your only 34 years old get over yourself...ok so you dont like over weight women so what, alot of us out there dont like skinny ass men but do you hear us complaining about how skinny most men seem to be...fuck no.What is an odd looking face? Someone who dosent stand up to your standards of beauty? and if your bisexual why are you only looking at womens profiles? all im saying is that you seem to be preety critical of others when you really should be taking a look at your profile and see how it makes you come off arrogent...of course noone is going to want to email you.....



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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 12:01:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

Maybe for you, but I have found all my partners  as an adult online, through sites like this, and once onyahoo personals.  I have the best luck online since I don't get to events much, most I don't even care for. Going to a club is not condusive to  getting to know someone. most people I know, and myself included, do not go to sit around and talk to people to hopefully find a match, I go to play and I don't want 20 questions when I am playing.


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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

One thing I have never understood is why look for a BDSM partner online when the best place to go is munches, fetish fairs, clubs etc.



If someone played 20 questions with me I'd tell them to fuck off! If you find so many people online and you are prepared tp meet them relatively quickly rather than a processs drawn out over months which most people seem to complain about online, you are obviously the exception that proves the rule. Most of the time I've been to munches and fairs, I've rarely talked about BDSM but subjects ranging from the arts to politics to just generally interesting conversation and that appears to be the same for most people, it is taken for granted you are into kink or you wouldn't be there. The idea of going to one of these places because they are kinky cattle markets would keep most people away. I don't know what such places are like where you live but maybe it is the class of people that attend them that is the problem.

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 12:09:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sublizzie

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ORIGINAL: CrazyC

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


~shudders~...yanno, it is just a bit scarey though as to how many vanilla women use that paragraph...or something very akin to it.


hehehe yea i know, and i feel so bad for the husbands. Sex should never be used like that.


"Husbands?" What about men who use their wives like that? It's truly not a gender-specific thing.


I can only speak for myself and the men I have known but within that circle, there are very few of us who would withhold sexual activity as a result of the wife not accomplishing one or two reasonable demands, let alone a bunch of unreasonable ones.  Not to hijack the thread but I would be willing to bet that if you were to set up a poll as to how many of the males on here ever withheld sex from their female partners during their "all vanilla - all the time" phase for not meeting a full list of reasonable demands, let alone unreasonable ones, you'd find very few males that did.

After all, tis all that men think about right? 

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 12:13:05 PM   
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Glad you said it!

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 12:34:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: sublizzie

quote:

ORIGINAL: CrazyC

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


~shudders~...yanno, it is just a bit scarey though as to how many vanilla women use that paragraph...or something very akin to it.


hehehe yea i know, and i feel so bad for the husbands. Sex should never be used like that.


"Husbands?" What about men who use their wives like that? It's truly not a gender-specific thing.


I can only speak for myself and the men I have known but within that circle, there are very few of us who would withhold sexual activity as a result of the wife not accomplishing one or two reasonable demands, let alone a bunch of unreasonable ones.  Not to hijack the thread but I would be willing to bet that if you were to set up a poll as to how many of the males on here ever withheld sex from their female partners during their "all vanilla - all the time" phase for not meeting a full list of reasonable demands, let alone unreasonable ones, you'd find very few males that did.

After all, tis all that men think about right? 


If ever there was a reason to hit town and have sex with another woman, it would be because of one with holding sex because of some minor short coming. The woman has yet to be born who is worth staying with if she is so petty.

The only reason I would with hold sex from a woman is because I couldn't stand her. If I couldn't stand her, I certainly wouldn't be married to her.

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 12:50:46 PM   
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Well just becouse someone is Married or Is Disabled Mentaly or Not dosnt mean that always
But yes there are some out there just to demanding There are som wacky ppl on this sight
There are some real.
I know forinstance I am real i have met sevral wacks that are Female and Male Dommes and Dom's
I know just becouse someone has a Mental Problem dosnt mean they are wacky or fake .
and dosnt mean they have so many limits
I have just a few limits less then i can count on one and a half hands.
But i am Bipolar and have OCD and those are Mental Heath problems so
I think that you are of on that .

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 1:04:24 PM   
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Maybe I am just naive, but you only get one life and all that matters is that you are happy in your own skin, in the ideal world nobody would offer up criticizm of others because they didn't fit their "criteria". Your true friends and the person you choose to be with will want you for being you. We are all individual, with different needs, hopes and dreams. Those who are worth caring about will embrace all aspects of you, those who don't aint worth jack s**t!

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 2:54:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: azzmaster

another cutious thing i noticed, is that the more desirable subs also seemed to be more reasonable. the really out there ads were all from women that were old, severely obese, odd looking faces and living somewhere in a small town. i cannot say i saw any ads from male subs that seemed out of line
LOL odd looking faces living somewhere in a small town---isn't that called inbred?

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 3:23:32 PM   
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im so glad that azzmaster has decited that this post is important enough to post on.....LOL..apparently its not...looks like another fake Dom trying to get a rise out of ppl because he is too insensitive to relize that not all ppl are perfect...i would feel sorry for anyone stuck with him..

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RE: Demanding Subs!!! - 2/23/2007 4:03:31 PM   
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if you read the 1st post. azz said he liked the people that wrote to him and that he had met. I think we have all seen the sort of ads he is referring to. I have anyway, they don't offend me , i just think its funny and think to myself, " well good luck trying to meet anyone" . this is a free site and anyone can say anything. i can put an ad on craigs list advertising a broken 1989 hundai for 30 K, it doesnt mean however i will get any buyers

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