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BeltHerr -> elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 8:42:20 AM)

One sees fewer and fewer older slaves in the personals here who show an interest in accepting pain. (By older slaves, I mean mid-fifties or older).

I wonder if this is due to just the general mellowing that aging brings, where less fierce amusements are preferred. Or the natural slippage of performance and determination that comes with age?

I'm not talking here only about painsluts, those who live for pain, but also those who learned to tolerate pain as one of their several surrenders.

Years ago I talked to an older sub (back when I was young, and she much older), who told me this: 'back when I was younger, I wanted to always increase my pain threshhold, take more and more; now it's a success for me to maintain my level of pain-tolerance.'
She felt she had not lost very much in performance, though she needed longer healing time between sessions, more breaks, and could not maintain some positions.

On the other hand, I've found a few older subs who desired more pain than before, trying to get maximum sensation while still they can.

As an old Dom, I still like to give pain, not more nor less than before. I hope the pool of sub/slaves who share my interest does not dwindle away 's'




mstrjx -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 8:51:41 AM)

Well, you can always do as a lot of men do.

As you age, and replace partners, your new partners will just be younger and younger than you.

Jeff




onestandingstill -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 9:41:57 AM)

I think as a sub gets older the heavy pain and impact play does take a much higher toll in sub drop and recovery time.
I think the skin gets less elastic, the muscles bruise easier and indeed the potential for heavier damage factors in to it.
In addition to that a persons knees and their flexibility also often decrease and other health complications come into play as we age.
I think the key is continually exercising and working on good over all general health in addition to the Sadist understanding less force causes the same if not stronger amounts of pain would be necessary.
I too have concerns if I don't get to play the ways I desire to play pretty soon that as I age I'm not sure my body will as readily accept the assaults as it can now.
Time is a definitely limiting factor in BDSM in many facets.
Good luck finding your sub.
suzanne




MagiksSlave -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 9:56:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mstrjx

Well, you can always do as a lot of men do.

As you age, and replace partners, your new partners will just be younger and younger than you.

Jeff



I thought the same exact thing when i read this and it made me sick.. the thought that after years and years of servise to a Master that I could just be relaces traded in for the newer model because I was getting older (heck not like you Masters are getting any younger eather) makes me feel sick and sad!!! We arent computers we dont become obsolete!!!!!!!



Magik's slave




Wildfleurs -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 9:58:09 AM)

My owner and I joke that when I turn 30 (in less than a year) he's trading me in for an 18 year old vietnamese girl.

C~




MasterNdorei -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 10:35:21 AM)

There are a number of reasons older subs may not play like they used to. Medications older slaves did not need when they were younger can influence healing rates and bleeding. Diseases that occur as people age can limit certain kinds of play (high blood pressure and diabetes comes to mind). Not to mention the natural evolution of aging that allows for osteoporosis, blood clots, and other occurances of aging that would restrict or prevent certain kinds of  play.

An older Dom is also susceptible to problems that affect His ability to play such as His eyesight diminishing, the steadyness of His hand, and His energy level.

It is not always a desire to stop playing hard that ends the heavy play. I would hope older Dominants are as careful evaluating their own health and abilities as the older subs seem to be.

Just some thoughts...
Master's dorei





onestandingstill -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 10:47:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

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ORIGINAL: mstrjx

Well, you can always do as a lot of men do.

As you age, and replace partners, your new partners will just be younger and younger than you.

Jeff



I thought the same exact thing when i read this and it made me sick.. the thought that after years and years of service to a Master that I could just be relaces traded in for the newer model because I was getting older (heck not like you Masters are getting any younger eather) makes me feel sick and sad!!! We arent computers we dont become obsolete!!!!!!!



Magik's slave

Not only that, but a man who'd get rid of someone who gave her whole life to pleasing him and leaving her high and dry makes him not only an ass to get rid of a person who's devoted their life to him, but more of a selfish jerk than a Master or Dom in my eyes.
With age is supposed to come wisdom and maturity, not reverting to childish selfishness and not accepting your responsibilities you took on by your own choice.

That would be like a woman taking all your material wealth and efforts for years only to leave you broke and destitute with no means of support when she found someone with a bigger checking account IMO.
So to those mid life crisis immature asinine statements leave me  hoping no one gives them validity as it's just unfathomable someone could be that cold and selfish.
I can understand not beginning a relationship with someone over an age if that's what floats your boat, but to abandon someone who's given you the best of them when they get old, I'd say I can't respect that for a second and hope all who do that pay by karmas hand heavily for the infraction..
suzanne




FelinePersuasion -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 10:58:00 AM)

I told my daddy when he said now  I will not be a replacement for your x, I told him no you're an upgrade lol.




proudsub -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 12:07:56 PM)

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One sees fewer and fewer older slaves in the personals here who show an interest in accepting pain. (By older slaves, I mean mid-fifties or older).


I didn't even discover that i enjoyed erotic pain until i was 54, and as i get older (now 60) i am enjoying it more.  However, if i had started younger i have no idea how things would of gone.




BeltHerr -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 12:43:14 PM)

to majikslave: I agree. It is unconscionable to "trade in"a slave just to get a younger one. Nothing against youth if the young sub doesn't mind matching fresh beauty with well-worn age. But I prefer experience 's' .
proudsub__GOOD for you!!!




Artsslave -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 1:12:56 PM)

i'm not into pain. i have a good tolerance for it, and it does have it's time and place for both punishment and play. So, when i was looking for a Master, i stayed away from those who didn't fit what i was looking for. Now that i have Him, my hope is that as He and i age, we will grow with each other. As i change, so will he. Over time. Those who are getting upset because someone would "trade in for someone younger" i don't quite get. He's not saying that his current girl doesn't want what she used to get. He's saying that he's not finding what he's looking for. Or at least, that's how i understand his posting.

It's not just in thie lifestyle that people change as they age. It's everywhere. And it usually happens over a period of time, for many reasons. i don't know that there are fewer older submissives who enjoy pain. But maybe it's possible that as they've changed, they've found different ways to do their searching? And maybe they're harder to find because they're appreciated more at their age and so their Masters aren't willing to give them up? Who honestly knows?





littleone35 -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 1:40:01 PM)

I an 37 (and proud of it)  and right now i have no problems with positions and such.  I know even as i age and things change Master is not gonna trade me in for a newer 'Model.  He loves me and i love him,  if we can't do things they way we used to  we will just find a different way to do what we like.  With age comes wisdom or so it is hoped.

Matt's littleone




FelinePersuasion -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 2:28:49 PM)

No, you're right he didn't say that.However it's the thought that if I spend 50 years with someone and suddenly when I reach 55 and now my knee's don't handle kneeling, and now my joints ache and I am showing old age, he decides enough of this woman I am upgrading to a new not 55 y.o model, then THAT is callouse.

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ORIGINAL: Artsslave

Those who are getting upset because someone would "trade in for someone younger" i don't quite get. He's not saying that his current girl doesn't want what she used to get. He's saying that he's not finding what he's looking for. Or at least, that's how i understand his posting.





Quivver -> RE: elder-slave pain (3/1/2007 4:56:22 PM)

i dont have a thing to add on the age issue ... so far i can still out do my kids.  but they are just the reason i'm replying.  when i turned 40 my ex looked at me and said it was time to trade me for 2 20 year olds ... as his eyes gazed past me they fell on 2 daughters, age 19 and 20.  it only took a few seconds for him to change his mind on any upgrade.  he heee




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