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ONEDEMANDINGMSTR -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 9:18:34 AM)

Ok.........Let's face facts, Al Gore is a fraud,. He paid a half a million for his oscar...........even though it was a foregone conclusion. How many cars and factories were operating during the 'global warming' ending the ice age??  Did all the methane from bovine assholes in Kansas destroy the atmosphere??  Do volcanoes contribute at all........??? Perhaps more than 'man' could ever produce???

Are there 'natural' cycles in process?  I predict that environmentalists will attack capitalism as the culprit. Do we know how much ozone hybrid's produce..........??  Every electric/electronic device.........when operating, produces OZONE!!!!!!!  Fact!!  So, perhaps the proliferation of computers will ultimately save this planet!!

Mere man is not capable of significantly altering the ecosystem of this , or any other planet!!!! 




thompsonx -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 10:05:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WyrdRich

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Don't you know that Global Warming deniers are shot?
 
     They are having a little problem with that approach, Fukin.  Your typical, urban, lobotomy liberal has been trained since birth that guns are bad and nobody should have them. 
Are you suggesting that all  typical urban lobotomy liberals are anti gun?  You cannot possibly know all typical urban lobotomy liberals. 
I do take exception to the two faced anti gunners like Dianne Finestine D Ca. who is anti gun but has a concealed carry permit.
Oh puuuulllleeeeezzzz
When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.
thompson



Result, the people they want shot not only have most of the guns, we can either hit what we are aiming at, or know a variety of ammunition where getting close is good enough.

It's that damn Law of Unintended Consequences that they just aren't quite brilliant enough to grasp.




luckydog1 -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 10:13:02 AM)

Thompson, learn how to read, do you not know what a qualifier is.  The post did not say "all liberals".  It said,"typical, urban, lobotomy liberal".  Fienstien is a perfect example.  You are smarter than this, I have seen it in a few of your posts.  Making silly snipes like this one, just make you look bad.  If you have to change what they posted to attack it, don't bother.  It is very transperant, and makes you look foolish.




Sekhemet -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 10:37:27 AM)

  Ah the joys of americans flaunting their stupidity ...
typical

the whole world agrees - the ice is gone and you morons want to think it's a theory ... typical arrogant american BS which between YOU and the Asians will kill us all.  If you researched half as much as you lipped off - you'd make sense instead of flaunting your ignorance.

I don't care if you agree with it - what harm will it do you to give it a shot???
On the other hand NOT listening and BEING so american may very well kill us all ... I'd rather the Asians than the americans be a world power ... least we can bomb them and make them stop to clean up the mess.  Watch yerself ... you aint so far off.

The rest of the world was learning about global warming 35 years ago - YOU idiots are so far behind it's typically ... AMERICAN.  Get off the pot - push your gov't and auto makers or hell let em fold up, and stop lamenting - no one wants yer trash, or lip, or attitude ... and yer economy is starting to reflect it ... it'll get even uglier tho - watch.

THE REST OF THE PLANET can NOT all be wrong here kids ...
Ya MAY wanna wake up ... and sniff the sea water.
XxoxX




luckydog1 -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 10:44:33 AM)

Canada can bomb Asia and make them stop to clean up the mess?!?

Thanks for the laugh before I go to work. 





seeksfemslave -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 11:24:30 AM)

Sekhemet:
I've got a good nomme de domme for you.......Shrinking Violet




thompsonx -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 11:33:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Sekhemet:
I've got a good nomme de domme for you.......Shrinking Violet


seeksfemslave:
She and thee have a lot in common....you sugar coat everything you say...don't you blokes and bints  know how to be plane spoken and say what you mean without beating around the bush.[;)]
thompson




FirmhandKY -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 1:43:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

Ah the joys of americans flaunting their stupidity ... typical


Ahh, the joys of the seeing yet another know it all anti-American Canadian flaunting their supposed superiority.  Typical.

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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

the whole world agrees - the ice is gone and you morons want to think it's a theory ... typical arrogant american BS which between YOU and the Asians will kill us all.  If you researched half as much as you lipped off - you'd make sense instead of flaunting your ignorance.


the whole world agrees:  No it doesn't.

This is hyperbole, intended to cement your belief that since "everyone else" thinks the way you do, that it is right by dent of the number of adherents.  It's an attempt to establish a "fact" based on your belief, and to short-circuit discussion and the examination of facts by simply discounting any information that runs counter to your belief.

the ice is gone:  No it isn't.  There is still plenty of ice in both the Arctic and Antarctic (if that is your antecendent for "ice")

you morons: ad hominem attack, not addressing the facts at issue.

want to think it's a theory: Displays your lack of understanding of basic science.  It is a theory. 

typical arrogant american BS:  another ad hominen attack, not related to the facts.  Also shows your prejudice and anti-Americanism.

which between YOU and the Asians will kill us all.: Again, showing your anti-American prejudice and your tendency to lump all people together.  I think you will find plenty of Americans that "believe" in global warming, and fight for their beliefs here on CM and in the general public.

Use of "Asians" also points to your tendency to classify all people in groups i.e. prejudice.  Which "Asians" and why?  Just more generalizations.

If you researched half as much as you lipped off:  Perhaps you might do a little more research into the scientific method and into the questions still concerning global warming before you "lipped off".  Pot.

you'd make sense instead of flaunting your ignorance.:  In counter-point to commenters such as yourself, who are displaying ignorance, prejudice, classical group-think, political naivity, undeserved self-importance, angry personal attacks, and a lack of the grasp of basic science? 

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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

I don't care if you agree with it - what harm will it do you to give it a shot???


Lots of damage is possible.  "Giving it a shot" isn't a real detailed exposition of what it is that you want/expect from "Americans".  Be specific and we can discuss if it is "worth it".  Otherwise, wanting us to "give it a shot" means nothing other than you want us to buy into whatever it is that you are selling.  Not a real good selling technique, for ad bombarded Americans, I'm afraid.

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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

On the other hand NOT listening and BEING so american may very well kill us all ... I'd rather the Asians than the americans be a world power ... least we can bomb them and make them stop to clean up the mess.  Watch yerself ... you aint so far off.


On the other hand NOT listening and BEING so american may very well kill us all:  We do listen.  We just dont' fall over and cut our wrist for every theory that comes along.  Just because Chicken Little says the sky is falling, doesn't mean we have to immediately go and start living in the Stone Age again.

I'd rather the Asians than the americans be a world power:  Again showing your basic anti-Americanism.  And, just after you castigated the "Asians" for "killing us all", too.  I guess this just points out that you hate American's more than Asians.

least we can bomb them and make them stop to clean up the mess
.:  Ahh, now I get it.  You think that just because they are "Asian", and since you are superior, you have the capability and right to kill and murder them, and then make them into your slaves?

Watch yerself ... you aint so far off.:  And then the US too?

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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

The rest of the world was learning about global warming 35 years ago - YOU idiots are so far behind it's typically ... AMERICAN.  Get off the pot - push your gov't and auto makers or hell let em fold up, and stop lamenting - no one wants yer trash, or lip, or attitude ... and yer economy is starting to reflect it ... it'll get even uglier tho - watch.

THE REST OF THE PLANET can NOT all be wrong here kids ...
Ya MAY wanna wake up ... and sniff the sea water


The rest of the world was learning about global warming 35 years ago:  No, 35 years ago, the big bug-a-boo was about global cooling.

YOU idiots are so far behind it's typically ... AMERICAN:  Ad hominen again.  I'd also say that yes, we are "typically" American in that we don't always desire to toe the line just because someone says we should.  That's typical, contrarian American, I'll agree.  I also think it is a good thing.  A plus, not a minus.

Get off the pot - push your gov't and auto makers or hell let em fold up, and stop lamenting - no one wants yer trash, or lip, or attitude:  Likewise, we have an aversion to the "trash, lip and attitude" of other countries, who all know so well what's best for us.

and yer economy is starting to reflect it ... it'll get even uglier tho - watch
:  Not true, and doubtful.  You don't know much about economics, either, do you?

THE REST OF THE PLANET can NOT all be wrong here
:  Why not?  I think they can be.  And, notice, another attempt at short circuiting logic by an appeal to the masses.  Not effective logically.  An emotional appeal.

kids:  Belittling.  Another ad hominen attack, in an attempt to dispatch anyone who disagrees with you.

Ya MAY wanna wake up ... :  You mean you want us to buy into your delusions ... oh, sorry, dreams?

and sniff the sea water:  I like beach front property.  Global warming will give us more of it.  What's the problem with that?  [:)]

FirmKY  

PS.  Nice pics though.[:)]




seeksfemslave -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 3:16:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
Sekhemet:
I've got a good nomme de domme for you.......Shrinking Violet

seeksfemslave:
She and thee have a lot in common....you sugar coat everything you say...don't you blokes and bints  know how to be plane spoken and say what you mean without beating around the bush.[;)]
thompson


She and thee Thompson, she and thee...that sounds a bit Northern UK to me.
I'm going to use my contacts up North to find a lovely "scrubber" to give your bush a right old beating.
If you show signs of enjoying it I shall tell her to stop lol

Why bother Firmhand, I think shrinking Violet should post more often. Give us all a larf !!!!




thompsonx -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/15/2007 8:56:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
Sekhemet:
I've got a good nomme de domme for you.......Shrinking Violet

seeksfemslave:
She and thee have a lot in common....you sugar coat everything you say...don't you blokes and bints  know how to be plane spoken and say what you mean without beating around the bush.[;)]
thompson


She and thee Thompson, she and thee...that sounds a bit Northern UK to me.
I'm going to use my contacts up North to find a lovely "scrubber" to give your bush a right old beating.
If you show signs of enjoying it I shall tell her to stop lol

Why bother Firmhand, I think shrinking Violet should post more often. Give us all a larf !!!!

seeksfemslave:
My english is a bit rusty.  Would you please give this colonial a bit of help with "a lovely scruber to give your bush a right old beating"...I recognize all the words but I do not understand their meaning.
thompson




Manawyddan -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/24/2007 7:23:21 AM)

Global warming on Mars: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/10/global-warming-on-mars/

Global warming on Jupiter: http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/04/21_jupiter.shtml

Global warming on Pluto: http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html

All of them natural and predictable, none the result of a sudden upsurge in solar radiation, and none comparable to Earth's temperature increase.

It's all right-wing obfuscation.




Sternhand4 -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/24/2007 10:00:28 AM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nviae7MKUIg

Make a difference today..




orfunboi -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/24/2007 1:31:39 PM)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4520665474899458831




Sanity -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/24/2007 3:49:42 PM)

GLOBAL COOLING, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html




FirmhandKY -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/24/2007 7:37:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

GLOBAL COOLING, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html



HEY!  You snatched that link from one of MY post, Sanity!!  [:D]

FirmKY




Sanity -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/24/2007 7:46:38 PM)

Nah, it's just a small world. While I was waiting for an hour for orfunboi's clip to load (which never did play) I looked around the Google site that he had linked to, and I found it there.

It's a very cool link though, isn't it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

HEY!  You snatched that link from one of MY post, Sanity!!  [:D]

FirmKY





Transdromeda -> RE: Another Global Warming Heretic (3/25/2007 11:03:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Zensee

Human arrogance leads us to claim that we can destroy "all life on earth" when we really mean, all the life that immediately supports our own. Sure the earth would recover and eventually new forms would arise to replace those we made extinct, but does that justify what we are doing today?

While 98% of all species that ever existed are now extinct, those events were triggered by enormous natural catastrophes, not by the day-to-day actions of a single species. Our demands accelerate and our populations explode and we continue to expect nature to fill the gap and flush the crap.

Ecosystems are frequently stressed by the dominant species but those imbalances rarely last more than a year or two, resulting in large reductions in population. These are part of the normal range of an ecosystem's behaviour. Humans are the first species that has largely dodged the "population correction" bullet. It appears we have done that by deferring the results for future payment. Like the "no money down - no payments until spring" special offers, it all comes due at the same time. Numerous civilisations have succumbed to this in the past.

Sad thing is, in the case of a global extinction, along with the cockroaches and microbes, one of the few surviving large life forms will probably be humans. Then we can forget the lessons of the past and do it all over again.


Z.

as opposed to unintended consequences of reacting to global warming if its not true.
how many can afford to buy carbon offsets.  how many millions wont be able to afford nonflush toilets.  or pay for expensive solar panels.  or buy expensive hybrids.  How about how actually replacing oil with corn will actually cause starvation because demand both for food and fuel will drive the price up making it expesnsive for fuel and scarce as a food soarce. this after corn oil becoming a major food ingrediant.   These kind of reactions will add overburdening costs to our economy destroying our way of life.




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