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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 7:46:05 AM   
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ISFP here.
I did the other test and had a four way tie...so I'm all kinds of fucked up.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 8:32:55 AM   
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Is there a psychometrist in the house?  I would like to know why there are so many INTJs here.  


Yet another INTJ here.  I have wondered myself why INTJ's are such a small percentage of the population, yet seem to be so well-represented in the BDSM community, both as Dom/mes and submissives.  I have noticed the same thing on previous threads on this topic.  Wonder if there is something about the INTJ personality type that draws them to the BDSM world? 
 
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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 8:37:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

That was interesting. Seems I am a 1/8/9 followed closely by 7.........does that just make me really screwed up?


LaTigresse,

No, not screwed up at all.  The thing about Enneagrams is that it has more than simply "a type".  It has what is called "wings", which is a primary personality type, but with a leaning towards one direction or the other and it allows for changes in your level of personal security and development, as well as for the effects of stress and the level of health in your life over time.

Some basic concepts:

Although discovering your Enneagram personality type is the primary object of our tests, they also provide more information about your personality and its dynamics. Here are some suggestions on how to interpret your Enneagram test results.

For most people, it’s clear what your basic type is. If your highest score is much higher (3-4 points or more) than the rest of your scores, this is most likely your basic personality type. You can confirm this by reading about the type either on our site or in Personality Types and The Wisdom of the Enneagram. If the descriptions of this type do not fit you, there are several other possibilities to consider:

    * If you have a number of close ties, you could be a Three, a Six, or a Nine.

    * If you have a scattered distribution of scores across three to five types so that there doesn’t seem to be any discernible pattern, you could be a Six.

    * If you are a woman and your Two score is highest, look at your next two high scores—women are often taught to play the role of the Two whether it is their basic type or not.

... if you are still not sure which is your type, you could put aside the test results and the descriptions and try to observe yourself objectively over a period of a week or two. After a break from the Enneagram material, you could take the same test again, or try a different Riso-Hudson test on this site, or try one of the following ways of identifying your type.

If you’re still not sure about your test scores, try the following steps:

    * Identify your three highest scores—one is most probably your basic type.

    * Look at the directions of integration (security) and disintegration (stress) related to these three highest scores. If there are high scores in one of these directions, this is an indication that the type related to this direction may be your basic type.

    * Look at the wings related to each of your three highest scores. Often, but not always, this will also be a high score.

    * Close Calls between all nine types can be explained in a variety of ways: a lot of spiritual/therapeutic/self development work, a lack of self-understanding, a common mistyping of certain types.

    * To distinguish between the 9 types, see the Compatibility Combinations. For example, if you can’t decide between Type 2 and 9, click on the 2/9 combination and see which one fits better.

    * Ultimately, you are the only one who can decide what your basic type is. When you read the description of your own personality type, you will know it. You may feel chills run down your spine, or an uneasy feeling in the pit of your stomach. This will be your subconscious telling you that something is hitting home (from Personality Types, p. 42).

An important part of Enneagrams is that there are levels within each type, and relationships between the differing types based on your level of stress and "health": Levels of Development.

More profoundly, the Enneagram is a map of wholeness, a way of recognizing and investigating different dimensions of our inner experience. Quite literally, all nine of the Enneagram types operate within each of us. Some of them are part of our familiar self-image, while others remain more unconscious and obscure. But when we say, for instance, that “I am an Enneagram Seven,” we are really saying that type Seven is dominant in our personalities — not that it is the only type we need concern ourselves with. In other words, it would be more accurate to say that our type is really our basic type and that the other eight types are energies that also manifest themselves in our overall psyches to varying degrees. Understanding this has profound implications for how we use the Enneagram on ourselves and with others.

Indeed, the Enneagram symbol itself suggests how the nine types are not merely “points,” but facets of a dynamic and deeply interrelated wholeness. The nine energies flow from one to another in specific and meaningful ways.

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Beginning in 1973, Don Riso was developing the idea that each of the nine Enneagram types had to have different manifestations depending on the degree of a person’s psychological health at a given time. This was based on the observation that a person might be healthy (or high-functioning), average (or “normal”), or unhealthy (and destructive of self and others) depending on what was motivating him or her at any given time.

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By introducing this vertical axis to the types, the Levels make room in Enneagram theory for some of the most important things that we find in human nature itself: evolution, change, fluidity, compulsion, conflict, contradiction, paradox, continuity, evolution, choice, freedom, and mystery — among many other truly human qualities. A person who knows the Levels of their type can recognize where they are on the continuum of consciousness in a given moment — and how they can move toward a deeper realization of their Being. Ken Wilbur has stated that only with this vertical dimension taken into account does the Enneagram system move toward being a complete psychology.

The concept of "wings" is important as well:

Your (dominant) wing is indicated by the higher score of one of the types on either side of your basic type. For example, if you test as a Two, your wing will be One or Three, whichever has the higher score. The second highest overall score on your Enneagram test is not necessarily that of the wing.

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In all cases, the proportion of the wing to that of the basic type must be taken into consideration. Some people will have a relatively high wing score, in proportion to their basic type. Some will have a moderate, or even a low, proportion of wing to basic type. This consideration is significant for understanding a person's reactions and behavior, particularly if a prediction of his or her performance is being attempted, as in a business setting. Understanding the relative proportion of the wing to the basic type also yields insights into the childhood origins of the person, codependency issues, and potential pathology.

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You may also get a high score in a wing other than the one you are expecting because of current factors in your life. For example, someone who had been typed both by himself and by three trained Enneagram teachers as a Seven with a Six-wing tested as a Seven with an Eight-wing. In this instance, although our Enneagram test correctly diagnosed the subject's basic type, the wing differed from what was expected. A reasonable interpretation is that the subject is in a high-pressure, competitive field where self-confidence and initiative are crucial for success. The subject has been taking more control of his career and has been making a conscious effort to be more assertive. This possibly caused the subject to register more responses for the Eight than for the Six.


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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 8:40:16 AM   
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I have long been fascinated by the Enneagram and read a few books on the subject.  I took the test in the link and again came up as a Type 3, which is the same thing I have always scored in the past:
 
Type 3:  The adaptable, success-oriented type. Threes are self-assured, attractive, and charming. Ambitious, competent, and energetic, they can also be status-conscious and highly driven for advancement. They are diplomatic and poised, but can also be overly concerned with their image and what others think of them. They typically have problems with workaholism and competitiveness. At their Best:: self-accepting, authentic, everything they seem to be—role models who inspire others.
 
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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 8:44:52 AM   
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I'm an ENTJ, and while I might be considered a "field marshall" on my job, I am most certainly a submissive to my dominant.

I don't feel like I would submit to most dominants, however.  It was important for me to find someone who was "stronger" than myself.  It wasn't an easy task and it took a long time. 

I guess I found a General!


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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 8:47:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

That was interesting. Seems I am a 1/8/9 followed closely by 7.........does that just make me really screwed up?


Also, if you notice in the groupings of the different types, 1's, 8's and 9's are all in the "Instintive' Triad.  All closely related.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 8:50:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

Mine says ISTJ.

With this as part of the description, no wonder so many people think I am a cold-hearted bitch:

ISTJs often give the initial impression of being aloof and perhaps somewhat cold. Effusive expression of emotional warmth is not something that ISTJs do without considerable energy loss.

Knight's kyra


kyra, that is not at all the impression I have gotten of you.



Thank you, LaTigresse.  I am much more open in writing than I am in talking.

I freely admit that I can see how people do get that impression, especially those who are extroverted and very free with their emotions.  It takes me awhile to open myself up to others, but by then the initial impression is already set.  That is probably why I get along better with introverts in general, they intuitively appreciate the time needed to open up.  I find interacting with extroverts to drain my energy levels and it makes me even more closed off.  There have been very few extroverts that I have met in my life who have given me energy.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 9:12:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MysticFireTopaz

Yet another INTJ here.  I have wondered myself why INTJ's are such a small percentage of the population, yet seem to be so well-represented in the BDSM community, both as Dom/mes and submissives.  I have noticed the same thing on previous threads on this topic.  Wonder if there is something about the INTJ personality type that draws them to the BDSM world? 
 
Lady Topaz
 


Or possibly INTJ's are more drawn to a discussion of personality types and the other types simply aren't as interested in the topic.  It's hard to say in an uncontrolled environment such as an online poll. 

But then again:  "INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake."  http://typelogic.com/intj.html

That could have a lot to do with it too!

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 9:43:20 AM   
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Took the test I'm a 42.

The test said that if I were to piss in the ocean the sheer "Ballzyness" of my urine might cause all of the fish to dispose of their silly little gills and climb ashore to wreak havoc on all humanity for filleting their scaled brothers and sisters...This is why I must remain secluded in a bubble...Leaving humanity safe from all that is Domiguy.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 9:49:06 AM   
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ENTP

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 10:32:26 AM   
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INTJ on the MB test.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 10:39:04 AM   
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FR....

I decided to try taking the test again, mainly when I was more coherent since I realized that doing it at 5am meant that I literally misread some of the questions the first time around.  This time I got an ENFJ or Teacher-Idealist.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 10:44:54 AM   
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INTP

People of this type tend to be: quiet, independent, and private; logical and unemotional; creative, ingenious, and innovative, global thinkers; curious and driven to increase their competence; casual, and adaptive; nonconforming and unpredictable. The most important thing to INTPs is their privacy and the opportunity to solve complex problems in unique ways.

Yep that sums me up rather well.
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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 11:06:54 AM   
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ENTP

I was actually a bit suprised with a part of the   type I was  catagorized as. I am definatly an extrovert, I get energized when I am around people weither they be strangers or close friends. I do have moments where I need a bit of space but not very often, I  am very chatty in person and actually have to work at keeping my feelings to myself.
some of the 'snapshot' words they used as a descriptor just didn't fit  at first : Analytica, strategic,theoretical, not some of the words I would have thought. It was, until  I thought about it  and I realized it was because of work, when I am at work I am in a diffrent mind frame, I become very 'A' type and in control of every aspect of my job, which is kind of a 'must' with what I do.    Funny enough my partner at work is a ISTJ,  we work very well together but she also has alot of extrovert  traits as well and we  fit well, lol she makes the lists and I misplace them *s*


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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 11:18:03 AM   
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ESFJ and the descriptions seem pretty accurate to me.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 11:33:04 AM   
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ENTP



I am also an ENTP

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Words, ideas and possibilities spew effortlessly from them. Words are their best friends. They dance around ideas, the more, the merrier. Imaginative, spontaneous, original and enthusiastic, they have a knack for seeing other possibilities, other dreams and options. The world is never as it is but as it could be, as if it were but an artists sketch begging for colour. They initiate change and often are prone to trespassing a few known boundaries to take themselves and others where no one has been before. The status quo tends to lack inspiration.
When inspired, they are fearless and tireless. Their energy will know no limits unless red tape takes over. Routine drags them down. Their faith in possibilities and belief in the benefit of change often inspire others to follow. They are challenging, ingenious and innovative. They will give their best to what appears to be an impossible challenge, a place unknown to man or beast.
They use metaphors, stories, images and analogies to make their point.They love theories and often shape their own. They see patterns emerging. Keen improvisers, they are rarely caught off guard, there is always something up their sleeve. The sky is the only limit.
They are sometimes entertainers, artists or otherwise engaged in public demonstrations that allow their ideas to bloom. Their greatest difficulty is not in initiating projects but in choosing among so many possibilities, setting realistic boundaries, establishing priorities and correctly assessing resources.
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yeah explains alot about me


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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 3:47:59 PM   
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My Daddy's an INTJ too (according to one test, at least).  It is rare, but I'm guessing it has nothing to do with submission, since he's very much a Dom.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 4:01:53 PM   
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According to the personality test on alt.com, I'm an ENFJ.  I took one at okcupid.com and came out with ENFP.  When I was in college, I went to the Career Center and the counselor had me take a real one, and then asked me where I thought I was on each one.  It turned out that in nearly every category I was towards the middle, so my results can vary depending on the wording of the question and my mood that day (I should go through my papers and see if I can find the results...).  Both of the aforementioned personality types sound a lot like me, just emphasizing different qualities.
I don't think that it has anything necessarily to do with my submission, although one could argue that my need for strong relationships and my desire to make people happy is part of my submissive nature.  Also my desire to always be near my lover means I'm happy just sitting at his feet (in theory).

EDIT: Took the Enneagram as well, scored 8 out of 8 as a Type 2.  "The Caring, Interpersonal Type:  Generous, Demonstrative, People-Pleasing, and Possessive.  Basic Fear: of being unwanted, unworthy of being loved.  Basic Desire: to feel loved."
Yeah, that sounds about right.  I need that constant reassurance of affection and not getting it makes me start to doubt, even when there's no reason to.



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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 4:35:47 PM   
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I'm also INTP

Seek to develop logical explanations for everything that interests them. Theoretical and abstract, interested more in ideas than in social interaction. Quiet, contained, flexible, and adaptable. Have unusual ability to focus in depth to solve problems in their area of interest. Skeptical, sometimes critical, always analytical.


Cool, me too =)

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 3/4/2007 4:48:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: StellaByStarlite

quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

I'm also INTP

Seek to develop logical explanations for everything that interests them. Theoretical and abstract, interested more in ideas than in social interaction. Quiet, contained, flexible, and adaptable. Have unusual ability to focus in depth to solve problems in their area of interest. Skeptical, sometimes critical, always analytical.


Cool, me too =)


Actually, if you read ahead a bit more, I posted another where I decided to take the test again (I took it several years ago the first time) and I came up ISFP :)   The INTP is close, but the ISFP is me to a T.  But hey...they're both great minds, right?

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