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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/16/2008 9:02:11 PM   
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Hi folks, I'm Stella, somewhat eccentric, and the last time the Myers Briggs test revealed that I'm NUTS.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/16/2008 10:09:54 PM   
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wow i feel lonely on my ESFJ island..lol, least ownedgirlie and i can keep each other company


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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/17/2008 6:13:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DoctorDubious
Take a test.
Then we put you in
one of sixteen boxes.



I'm not yet a world famous psychologist, but even I know there are quite a few more than just sixteen boxes because of the variety of the depth of each trait. Some people, for example, score around 10% for a particular preference while others score 100% for a trait. Are they the same? Nope. These 10% MB-switches are different than those whose preferences are more MB-str8 ... and these 10% MB-poly preferences are treated very differently on the professional tests (but not necessarily on the free tests we find on the web).

So, my premise is that those who pooh pooh the test might be those who are  MB-bi because the strength of their preference isn't as incontrovertible as others' perhaps more decidedly MB-str8 traits.

Huh? Let me "try" to explain ...

Given INTJ predominates here, let's say you have two individuals who score NT for their gathering and processing of data respectively. Both score 100% for I and J, let's say, which tells us how they strongly relate themselves to the world and how they just as strongly relate the world to themselves. Yet, one scored 10% on N data gathering and T decision making while the other scored 75% on the N and T data gathering and decision-making traits respectively.

Are they in the same box? No way! Do they act the same way. Nope! Are they both INTJ profiles? Yep!

The first INTJ is, what I'll call, an MB-switch while the other INTJ is an MB-str8. They're very different and the professional tests do treat them differently. One is "bi" the other is "straight" (from a personality preference standpoint on the gathering and processing of data). Because of the "strength" of each preference, there are vastly more than 16 "boxes" in the professional tests (I've seen the results since I've done this at my work more than a few times in a group setting). The web-based tests only scratch the surface so the "xNxJ" types out there need to not jump to conclusions too quickly without taking in more data (xSxx types would tend to dig much deeper than simply assuming there are only 16 boxes, for example).

BTW, often, the "switch" who scores 10% NT is generally a fantastic analytical problem solver who comes to the right answer most of the time, whereas the "straight" who scores 75% NT always "thinks" they are right (because of the very strong J) and once in a while they are right (because of the moderate T), but, often their well developed intuition leads them astray (moderate N) because they "had enough data" (often not enough data, as it can turn out so often with Ns).

The first INTJ will likely take much longer to make decisions, may often have trouble deciding what to do with complex emotional events, yet is the classic "mother of invention" type of thinker and decision maker who comes up with a better solution, more often than not - due to their ability to take in and process the data.. The "switch", while being a bit more "confused" at the start, is able to make use of more capabilities than is the str8 so they can handle more situations when complex decisions need to be made.

On the other hand, the second INTJ will take vastly less time mulling over what to do and will often come up with the "right" solution (due to the moderate T), but, as it always is with pronounced Ns, will sometimes, often too quickly, make the wrong decision, which they often stick with long after others see their folly (due to the 100% J). In essence, the str8 has less confusion but isn't as adaptable to the variety of decision-making tools available to others.

Point is, these two personalities are actually vastly different due to the ability to switch to non-preferred traits, and the professional tests certainly take this into account, yet, the web-based tests barely scratch the surface. So please don't jump to the conclusion that the MB test "puts you in one of 16 boxes" because that just isn't the case.

I suspect (but need more data) that those who belittle the Myers-Briggs test as only having 16 slots, are doing so because they may be the folks who are actually "switches" in one or more traits, which means they have the nice ability to switch between capabilities while others, who may be stronger in their straight personality preferences, would be less likely to be confused by the results.

As always, YMMV.

NOTE to SELF: I just realized my S causes me to look for more data while my strong P is the reason for the YMMV signoff allowance! Interesting. Very interesting.


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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/17/2008 7:02:11 AM   
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INTJ and Dominant.
 
'Mastermind' was a word that popped out at me when I went looking for the summary LOL. That's pretty accurate - I'm a logistics person to the bone - event  planning gives me a mental 'woody'. Give me a crisis to solve or a project to unroll and I'm just fine. Put me in a social situation and I look for the nearest place to hide from the noise.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/17/2008 9:13:35 AM   
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INTJ and Dominant.
 
'Mastermind' was a word that popped out at me when I went looking for the summary LOL. That's pretty accurate - I'm a logistics person to the bone - event  planning gives me a mental 'woody'. Give me a crisis to solve or a project to unroll and I'm just fine. Put me in a social situation and I look for the nearest place to hide from the noise.


oh <duh>... just realized I forgot to answer the 'other' part. Its beneficial in that I just 'do' because it makes sense and its in my nature. I think I'd be startled at any other approach. The 'less than really helpful part' is that my proclivitiy to consider all  possible outcomes makes me overthink how the submissive may experience it.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/17/2008 1:08:02 PM   
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Dunno what I am.  It said abort retry fail.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/17/2008 1:09:24 PM   
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Dunno what I am.  It said abort retry fail.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/17/2008 5:57:35 PM   
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Also an INTP.

I find that the interpretations of INTP describe me perfectly.  I've taken the m-b test four times and have come up with INTP three of those four times.  The first time, it came up with INTJ--close, but just not quite. 

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/17/2008 6:29:10 PM   
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Actually I've never liked Myers-Briggs.  I fall 50/50 on three of the categories and 60/40 on the last.  So I'm effectively everyman.  Makes it kinda hard to get anything useful out of it.  My ennegram tests come out pretty much the same.  Not all that helpful. 

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/18/2008 5:36:00 AM   
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Pompeii~

Thank you for posting this explanation of how the test varies. I can take the test ten times and get seven different answers. Seven because invariably once or twice I'll hit the same one, but it won't be that four of the ten will be the same one. Make sense? I have even simply read ever different description in hopes of being able to say, oh I totally identify with this... but I don't. Alot of times I have a hard time answerring the questions... is my desk organized? Well, the one at work, yes, the one at home, no. Do I think tried and true approaches are the way to solve problems? Umsometimes, and sometimes not. Do  I prefer a relaxing evening at home, or to go out? Ummm it depends on the day! The answers are all 50/50 to me... there isn't a "most of the time" answer for me. Sigh! I am an extraordinarily flexible person. I have called myself a chameleon countless times because I meld to whatever the situation calls for. I can lead incredibly well, yet I don't have a compulsion to neeeed to lead, etc. I can go to the neighborhood bar and fit in beautifully, or the symphony... and what's more I don't have one that "feels more comfortable" to me. It makes for taking any of these tests really difficult and at times I've thought there was something quite wrong with me because the only definite about me is my fluidity in any given moment... fluidity not in a scatterbrained way, but meaning that I flow with whatever the situation calls for. Definite planning, or absolute spontaniety. At any rate, I learned long ago that tests don't really work for me, and that was okay, but it was cool to read about how people flex within categories... and that even if I take that to an extreme, it isn't really "just me" being impossible.
rz{PF}... thinking it's kind of funny that I'm writing on a thread my Master started over a year ago and doesn't even know that it's been resurrected. Guess he will now :)


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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/18/2008 5:42:13 AM   
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I am an ENFP also! LOL you aren't the only one...

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/18/2008 11:03:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jusqua

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ORIGINAL: bratnwranglers

wow i feel lonely on my ESFJ island..lol, least ownedgirlie and i can keep each other company


I too am ESFJ, that makes three of us!


woohoo....lol

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/18/2008 7:42:22 PM   
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I am in the rarest: INFJ. And, not only that, I am the rarest of INFJs: a scientist. The Function Type is Intuitive Thinker; the Intelligence Type is Mentor.

http://www.typelogic.com/infj.html

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Me too! Didn't know it was rare though. The important thing, you are not alone, ha!
 
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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/19/2008 7:21:29 AM   
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Very interesting, and definitely food for thought.

INFJ, here.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/19/2008 11:01:16 AM   
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i'm an INFJ and a slave.  This would have made for a good poll question.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/19/2008 9:51:35 PM   
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damn the resurrections!! i saw Loki. didnt look at the date and thought the Forum God had returned. now i will have to roam in sadness the remainder of the year.

it is cruel.
i wont stand for it

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/20/2008 6:40:29 AM   
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Interesting thread, just saw it was active again. ENTJ sub here, go fig.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/20/2008 7:02:08 AM   
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Took this test ages ago it seems, but I have taken it again to confirm.  I'm INTP but very close to INTJ, as are many here apparently.  Mine in RT (my wife and slave) is INFJ (but hovers near ISFP), my other two online slaves are ESFP and ISFP respectively.  I gave the tests personally, since I feel it is very important to establish good communication in the relationship.  Knowing this about them aids in our communication a great deal and I am convinced that my improved understanding of what makes them tick has allowed me to be a better master to them, also.

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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/20/2008 11:01:08 AM   
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hmmm on the test I ended up on taking I' categorized as ENTP. 


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RE: Myers-Briggs personality types - 12/20/2008 6:23:50 PM   
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Let put in here my opinion of Myers-Briggs and any of the many other so-called psychological tests.  They are pure bull shit.  Yes, i took several times the M-B and turn out to be on the cusp between several categories.  To term this and the other tests "science" is an oxymoron.  These tests are as valid as astrology, another pseudoscience.  i refuse to let some test or some psychologist to put me in a box.  i am an individual.  i do not care what my M-B type is because it is totally meaningless and irrelevant.

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