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Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 4:53:16 PM   
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Greetings Good Neighbors,

Did anyone see the Fox Report last evening on Radical Islam? I for one was glad to see that someone finally brought the real world into our living rooms for once. What some of the extremist on this little rock of ours actually think, feel and do. Mothers cheering because their sons blew up a market place where other mothers children were present. They reported on the sheer outrageous ideals these people maintain.

Let’s take this 70 virgin thing and analyze that briefly. Why in the hell a man would want that many ugly third graders to begin with is beyond me. Now 70 well disciplined sluts, hey that’s something to at least ponder killing for. In all seriousness, Imagine the thought process and  the mental confusion that would have you believing that this is the way to achieve your life goals. Hell, if it’s so great why has Bin Laden not flown his own damn plane into something?  Seems to me they have their own version of the Catholic Church trying to guilt or brainwash them into some crap that will not serve God, but rather serve some Earthly man’s desires and lusts for power.

We complain this war in Iraq is about OIL. I concur, I believe the same thing. I see it from different angle though. It doesn’t have a damn thing to do with George Bush’s well lined pockets. And sure he and Dick and friends have profitted, I challange anyone to tell me that if they themselves weren't in a position to profit from their labors they would say, "awww, no thanks, I have enough money." That doesn't make "W" right in his doing so, but it does make him human.  This war began long before any US president ever came to office. Oil is the most precious substance on Earth at this time. Name one thing that has more influence over economies, health and welfare or life itself today. Not even the blood in your veins effects so many people, so easily. These Radicals have said it themselves, they have been fighting these crusades for eternity, and they will not stop until every man, woman and child is a Muslim. That isn’t entirely true though, they insist you be a Muslim that thinks and acts and dresses and eats and shits and wears your facial hair exactly like they do.

Anybody remember the Bond film Goldfinger? Take his plan to control all the gold and turn that into oil. Note that our best buddy Hugo is in bed with the Radicals. They would first have an infinite financial supply. They would have the monopoly locked. If you run from the war once, why should they believe you would run to the aide of the Saudi’s. Why should the Saudi’s believe we would. Security makes for interesting bedfellows as they say. If you say this war is about oil, your right, But Bush’s pockets are the least of your worries.  

You don’t think Israel is in trouble if we leave? These people don’t even remember why the hate the Jews, but they are fighting the worlds oldest Hatfield and McCoy family feud. Listen, these people HATE OUR GUTS!!!! They ahet us Zionist pigs and they don't care if you don't follow Jewdism or Christianity. They don’t even know why they hate us, they just do, some jargon about this father begot this father and Abraham slept with a slave, Sara couldn’t have children and wait, they even have the same family roots!….Now I’m not being blasphemous to anyone beliefs here but what the hell is that fight about, who is more right about God, and God wants you to kill those that see it differently.

What ever happened to Advertisement, offer the best product and we’ll buy it. Wait that’s western ideals and they don’t do that. They may not have the best product. Its possible that one of these Clerics has grasped that idea and is worried about loosing his job. Or better yet his control over mindless masses of radical people. What mother cheers the idea of her son killing children in a marketplace?  What religion teaches that death this way is honorable? I don’t even believe they are reading their own Koran correctly. Its just like the pages of print here in Collarme, everyone has their own idea of the truth. Now let’s go out and see who we can force that on today.

I think we need to evaluate this war well beyond someone’s idea of who’s getting rich, if Bush does something wrong and he surely has, then fix it, tell him how. You don’t even have to vocally support him. But you damn sure better support the lives of your great, great grandchildren, just like our Grandfathers did in WW2. Folks these Radicals make the Nazis look like Boy Scouts. They don’t have the industrial or economic power of the Axis of WW2, but they’re working on that. Don’t name your children Nevel.

 Open your eyes to the depths of this conflict. Open your eyes to their patience, the fact they won’t be done until the real world is exposed to them and their radical television and clerics are not the only voices they hear. The casualties are only going to be worse in 10, 20, or 30 years. But perhaps you don’t really give a shit about that. Immediate gratification is much more important. How this affects your pocketbook or better yet, how this affects your candidate on Election Day. How about how this affects this country, what about those men stood in rags in the freezing snow in a little camp in Pennsylvania, surely they would find this bickering about a little oil as rather superficial and let’s get this in perspective.

Running out on the Middle East is not only not an option but it is life ending as we know it.  Hey, I’m a Gorean, these men value many things in life the way I do. Not enough where I favor their plan, but let’s put this in perspective with the people here on this board.

How many Domme’s do you suspect live freely in the Afghan hills? Or how many sub boys do you think with their cleanly shaven bodies exist in the Hezbollah. How about our same sex compatriots, where is their place in this radical world. Folks they have no intention of stopping at the Egyptian shores, they have the patience of a judge and they intend on bringing their brand of God to every living room on the planet.

So like George or not, this war is a lot bigger than him, he was just the unlucky forker that was piloting the ship when the storm hit. Do you really believe Bin Laden thought Clinton was a great guy and didn’t attack on his watch because he was feeling generous? Come on, if Clinton had served another four, this war would have been his. Stop bickering over party lines unless it’s a better way to do this, not a better way to hide for just a little longer. Kenny Rogers sand a song once, it ended like this….”Sometimes you gotta fight when you’re a man” These radicals are offering you no other alternative, in fact their banking on the fact you can’t stomach this conflict of their choosing.

Live well friends,

Bull


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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 4:57:54 PM   
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Sheesh, more paranoia.

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 4:59:38 PM   
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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:03:09 PM   
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Dearest Meatclever,

You look well in your suit of Nevel. But that's ok, see our brand of idealoligy actually offers you the room to think your own way. Have you ever vacationed in that part of the world? Surely you must give it a try one day. The cities are beautiful and the night life is fabulous. Oh, you won't even need a permit to carry your gun. Awesome isn't it.

Parnoidally yours,

Bull

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:04:56 PM   
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I agree that radical islams are nut cases. Unfortunately, it's impossible to stop them all. They are too widespread. The government needs to stop trying before this country is bankrupt. With all the islams immigrating to the US, I'm afraid the suicide bombings will start here too. I'm not saying they're all like that, but how can the government tell who is and who isn't? I think the United States should pull the troops out of Iraq and ban any further immigration from the middle east

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:16:23 PM   
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Hello defiantbadgirl,

I understand what your saying, but do you not find the cornered rat easier snared. We can do it in their corner or allow them into ours. I agree you need to defend the homefront way, way better, and control our borders much better, but the is part of this war, not an alternative to another part of it. The key is as it has always been, education, communication. We are behind the curve at this point and the radicals are ahead inthe hearts and minds of their peple, we have to have a beachhead in the Middle East, that doesn't mean a country we control, that means an example of a country without radical leaders, one where the people choose, the radicals see what we're up to and want to stop it, their weapon with you is to disinform make this about things you don't think you care about while they try and take over. Always remember the biggest money maker in the world is oil. They want it not to support their people and make their lives better, they want it to fight and control everyone, world domination of Islam, that's their only goal, the radicals that is. Yes they're here already, you recognize a possible problem, your an American, in a country where you can effect the outcome with your voice, use your voice wisely and not like a rabbit or a sheep, step out into the lions den and fight lioness, the hyenas are waiting and watching. And in time, they will attack. I promise you that.

On your side,

Bull

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:17:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xBullx

Dearest Meatclever,

You look well in your suit of Nevel. But that's ok, see our brand of idealoligy actually offers you the room to think your own way. Have you ever vacationed in that part of the world? Surely you must give it a try one day. The cities are beautiful and the night life is fabulous. Oh, you won't even need a permit to carry your gun. Awesome isn't it.

Parnoidally yours,

Bull


I've been around the West Bank, Jordan, Egypt, and several gulf states and how they choose to live is up to them and not up to us. The truth is there is a terrorist problem that has to be dealt with but it is no clash of civilisations that Bush and the neocons would have us believe, it is manageable and its going to take a generation to solve the problem but the west largely created it in the first place by forever meddling in Arab affairs to get at their resources. If the boot was on the other foot and Arabs were over throwing the US government to get at US resources, I'm sure there would eb a few American terrorists around.

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:37:16 PM   
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Meatcleaver,

I'll give you that the problem is not Arab alone, we bear some burden in that. Though I doubt that you can use the shoe on thye other foot analogy in this instance, that is simply hypathetical and has little foundation or merit, the facts are what have facing us and that wherein lies the issue at hand, not in the maybees, woulda, couldas and shouldas. The perverbial bed is now made, it's time to sleep in it and then make it straight again. To suggest what could have been is not only counterproductive, but it aids the enemies mind game.

Thanks for your support,

Bull

edited to add: ask Bin Laden or Al Sadr if it's not a clash of civilizations...... Bet I know the answer....

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:40:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xBullx
Oil is the most precious substance on Earth at this time.

I suspect that hard drugs are in countries where they are prohibited.

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ORIGINAL: xBullx
Name one thing that has more influence over economies, health and welfare or life itself today.

Food. Fresh water.
As for immaterial assets: worth more than all substances on Earth is Wisdom. The next most valuable asset is Compassion. Anyone who lacks all wisdom and compassion is very poor indeed.

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Listen, these people HATE OUR GUTS!!!!

So would you, if you were educated in a CIA-financed islamic school.

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Hey, I’m a Gorean

I do not hold that against you, but I do note that your deluded rethoric indicates that you are not a Gorean scholar. The bull is the leader of the herd and the enemy of all predators, but he is also easily led by the nose-ring. Who is holding yours?
 

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:53:00 PM   
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Sheesh, more paranoia.


We will see what you guys think when these muslims take over Europe. They've made no secret that taking over Europe is their goal. An Islamic cleric said that one day the islamic flag will fly over the British Parliament.

And it isn't paranoia. Italy and France both have populations of declining birthrates for domestic families. And these countries are allowing muslims in by the millions a year.
Currently 25% of the population in France under age 21 is Muslim. By 2030, 25% of all of France will be Muslim. And that will be well more than enough to influence national elections.

They are taking over. And just like what Europe did with the Nazis in World War...You are all letting the invaders walk right in without a shot being fired.

Interesting enough....even Nostradamus saw this one coming. He stated that between 2000 and 2050 AD, Europe will be invaded by muslims. Its happening right now.

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:57:37 PM   
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Hello Rule,

Aren't you fun.... Rather brilliant tactic, a personal attack, surely you could do better than accosting my name. Care to stand bare fisted against a water buffalo? I do believe they are referred to as Bulls. Hate the message, not the messenger. Wolves often wear the clothing of sheep. (winks) Perhaps you should study the ideas of a Tuchuk, the truth may not always be that about a man that you see.

I have no idea how you tie an illegal substance to the work of nations, it surely has impact on a society, but has no great effect on the func tion of industry.

I'll concur that food and fresh water have merits, but what about the machinary that producers the vast quantities of food that feed all you inner city folk. I a=only assume you live in a city. Food is obtainable in the country where I come from. Your wisdom and compassion are present today, what good have they done up till this point. Valuable, yes, in use, therein lies yet another question.

Does the CIA get the blame for everything wrong on this planet. Do try and rememberthat it was cuts in the Clinton years that crippled the intelloigence services. So perhaps this is more than a CIA issue anyway. Not sure why the CIA is teaching them to hate us. Could you please provide the CIA authorized text books that instruct such things....I suppose that might be classified though.

Thanks for not holding who I am against me, that would have stiffled your entire point that I'm on the wrong side. If that is what you are leading to. I could see no other reason to dispute my points.

Live well,

Bull




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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:58:24 PM   
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This country has too many problems of its own to worry about fighting wars in other countries. Our economy is shot. The decent paying jobs with good benefits are being outsourced. Educated people are being forced to work slave wage jobs with little or no benefits. People are dying more painful deaths from lack of healthcare than prisoners on death row who receive lethal injections. Yet to the government, wars in foreign countries take priority over the well-being of the American people. Our government is not protecting us anyway. They are allowing Islams to immigrate from Iraq not knowing whether or not they are radical. Computer work is being outsourced to India, a country with loads of terrorists in it (I got this info from someone from India). What will we do when a radical Islam who may work at one of these call centers hacks in and wrecks havoc? Almost everything is run by computers. Now that's scary!!

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 5:59:09 PM   
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I'm sure the program was a "fare and balanced account" radical islamists have been around for a long time but in the past they were a poorly supprted and under funded minority, unfrtunately thay obtaned the most amazing PR company and recruiting sergeant called GW Bush, he got it briefly right in Afghanistan and then the dum smuck through it all down the toilet in Iraq........and now Afghanistan could also be lost and GOD help us if Pakistan goes over because iran will not have to develope any bombs then!!!.

When the Taliban were on the run along with Osama there was  world wide support for the US, but Mr stupid managed to chuck it away. You can't turn back the clock, and you are right that there is now a serious threat from radical islam but history will place a lot on the little man from texas who took a crisis and turned it into a disaster.



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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 6:04:07 PM   
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You had me at Fox News....You complete me!  After the tsunami they had on some woman who said that this was God's will to punish the Muslims....I only rely on this station to get my news ....Good for you Bull!  Now if you can just find that remote you might be able to watch the news some day.

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 6:09:14 PM   
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Greetings Dtesmoac,

I agree that a problem has been developed, I refuse to lay it all in one man's lap. You see this is our Country, and this is our world, I mean that as citizens of the planet, not just US or UK or where the hell ever. Now it seems to be the popular thing to sit around and bitch and point fingers.....WHAT should we do about this. Bush is gone in 2 years, so stop complaining about him. To much time and energy get's focused there, it looks like the little Texans is trying to change and adapt, improve on what he screwed up, yet all we see now are the nay sayers that hope they can be right if he screws up agains and reap the benefits, and if he does a right this time, it will be, even a broken clock is right twice a day, or do you just put spin on it how it was always this way before he was just in the right place at the right time. Talk about your broken records.

I have to do some traveling tonight, I'll check back tomorrow folks, don't tie me to a stake and burn me while I'm gone.........

Live well,

Bull

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 6:15:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Sheesh, more paranoia.


We will see what you guys think when these muslims take over Europe. They've made no secret that taking over Europe is their goal. An Islamic cleric said that one day the islamic flag will fly over the British Parliament.

And it isn't paranoia. Italy and France both have populations of declining birthrates for domestic families. And these countries are allowing muslims in by the millions a year.
Currently 25% of the population in France under age 21 is Muslim. By 2030, 25% of all of France will be Muslim. And that will be well more than enough to influence national elections.

They are taking over. And just like what Europe did with the Nazis in World War...You are all letting the invaders walk right in without a shot being fired.

Interesting enough....even Nostradamus saw this one coming. He stated that between 2000 and 2050 AD, Europe will be invaded by muslims. Its happening right now.

They are inviting them into the United States too. Soon, suicide bombings will be common here. And why has nothing been done to stop technical support outsourcing? We are just setting ourselves up for more terrorist attacks. Our government is protecting us? What a joke.

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 6:41:12 PM   
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This country has too many problems of its own to worry about fighting wars in other countries. Our economy is shot. The decent paying jobs with good benefits are being outsourced. Educated people are being forced to work slave wage jobs with little or no benefits. People are dying more painful deaths from lack of healthcare than prisoners on death row who receive lethal injections. Yet to the government, wars in foreign countries take priority over the well-being of the American people. Our government is not protecting us anyway. They are allowing Islams to immigrate from Iraq not knowing whether or not they are radical. Computer work is being outsourced to India, a country with loads of terrorists in it (I got this info from someone from India). What will we do when a radical Islam who may work at one of these call centers hacks in and wrecks havoc? Almost everything is run by computers. Now that's scary!!

Seems to me that Afghanistan and Iraq and Iran are not the enemies of the common people of the USA, but that their own, chosen leaders are.

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 7:41:05 PM   
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I wonder Meat, how does all this fit in with the murder of a film maker on a Dutch street fit in with all this? Were the people responsible radicals? If not what were they?

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 7:46:20 PM   
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The Dutch secret service was heavily infiltrated in this group and supplied one of them with a grenade.

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RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam - 3/4/2007 7:46:24 PM   
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You don’t think Israel is in trouble if we leave? These people don’t even remember why the hate the Jews, but they are fighting the worlds oldest Hatfield and McCoy family feud. Listen, these people HATE OUR GUTS!!!! They ahet us Zionist pigs and they don't care if you don't follow Jewdism or Christianity. They don’t even know why they hate us, they just do, some jargon about this father begot this father and Abraham slept with a slave, Sara couldn’t have children and wait, they even have the same family roots!….Now I’m not being blasphemous to anyone beliefs here but what the hell is that fight about, who is more right about God, and God wants you to kill those that see it differently.



I always found it interesting when I received one of my various security clearances that Isreal is considered an espionage threat.  Apparently, anything Isreal can get it's hands on is sold to the Chinese (or 20 years ago, the Soviets) all the while talking about how much they love the U.S.

With friends like that, who needs enemies?

Just me, etc.

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