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cjenny -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/4/2007 7:49:03 PM)
Uh-huh on that one Sinergy.

sleazy -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/4/2007 7:54:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule The Dutch secret service was heavily infiltrated in this group and supplied one of them with a grenade. That was one mighty odd grenade bearing in mind the wounds it left [:D]

Rule -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/4/2007 7:59:33 PM)
It wounded two police men when they tried to break into a house in the Laakkwartier in The Hague.

gooddogbenji -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/4/2007 8:04:44 PM)
This thread, it seems, has attracted radicals of another sort. I will not debate this any farther than to say that Falwell and those boys are just as extreme, just as accepted, and advocate just as much violence. We have killed as many Muslims as they have killed Americans. I agree. We should protect ourselves. But as should they. Yours, benji

popeye1250 -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/4/2007 8:12:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl I agree that radical islams are nut cases. Unfortunately, it's impossible to stop them all. They are too widespread. The government needs to stop trying before this country is bankrupt. With all the islams immigrating to the US, I'm afraid the suicide bombings will start here too. I'm not saying they're all like that, but how can the government tell who is and who isn't? I think the United States should pull the troops out of Iraq and ban any further immigration from the middle east I agree but I'd like to see all immigration stopped for 10-20 years. We have a whole bunch of people here now who don't belong here and are going to have to leave. I'll vote for whichever candidates are toughest on immigration and enforcing our laws. They "Boo'd" Mc Cain at some conference in Washington this week! lol And he came in last in a straw poll. That's what happens when they support any kind of "amnesty" for illegals. Mitt Romney came in first. I don't consider "islam" a religion but a cult. It should be outlawed in Western countries just like Christianity is in muslim countries. We have freedom of religion in this country not freedom of criminal organisations.

cyberdude611 -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/4/2007 8:58:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl I agree that radical islams are nut cases. Unfortunately, it's impossible to stop them all. They are too widespread. The government needs to stop trying before this country is bankrupt. With all the islams immigrating to the US, I'm afraid the suicide bombings will start here too. I'm not saying they're all like that, but how can the government tell who is and who isn't? I think the United States should pull the troops out of Iraq and ban any further immigration from the middle east I agree but I'd like to see all immigration stopped for 10-20 years. We have a whole bunch of people here now who don't belong here and are going to have to leave. I'll vote for whichever candidates are toughest on immigration and enforcing our laws. They "Boo'd" Mc Cain at some conference in Washington this week! lol And he came in last in a straw poll. That's what happens when they support any kind of "amnesty" for illegals. Mitt Romney came in first. I don't consider "islam" a religion but a cult. It should be outlawed in Western countries just like Christianity is in muslim countries. We have freedom of religion in this country not freedom of criminal organisations. Think of it like this as well... Look what Europe is doing. They are considering adding Turkey, Albania, and Bosnia to the European Union. So now Europe is going to continue to invite more Islamic influence into their governments, society, and politics. "We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe – without swords, without guns, without conquests. The 50 million Muslims of Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades." -Gadhafi "He superseded all previous religions," Gadhafi said. "If Jesus were alive when Muhammad was sent, he would have followed him. All people must be Muslims." These people are RADICALS! They are not looking for peaceful coexistance. They want western civilization destroyed. They want the western governments toppled. And Europe is right now going through a phase of globalization, socialism, and cultural reletivism. And this is probably going to lead to some extremely serious social-political problems in Europe within the next few decades. Europe is in a state of social decay.

xBullx -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/4/2007 11:20:08 PM)
Greetings Domiguy, Now I'm sure that simply because I posted this as a Fox news article that you aren't judging by that the only place I get my news is that one TV station. That would be rather rediculous of you to assume such a thing, first because you have no idea who and what I am. the depth of my knowledge, or the sources I use as reference. I only spoke and issued credit as this was here the was a mother cheeering her sons murder of market shoppers. Th efact is that I listen to Fox, Cnn, the BBC, Cspan, MSNBC, I prefer Fox Sports only because they tend to like to discuss football and that's my thing. I read serveral media publication daily as well, well I sort past the Britney Spears and Paris Hilton crap to find note worthy info. But surely you didn't really want to trash my source to discover I am well versed, the fact is you wanted to put spin on my post. Wait, look at me thinking and assuming for you.....Now that wouldn't be fair and balanced either would it.....Stick to the facts my good man and not to where the hell I leave my remote laying, It would do you a better service and make you look to have a clue, and the Mods might let you speak without having to screen all your words. I wish you Adulthood, Bull

xBullx -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/4/2007 11:32:35 PM)
Greetings Sinergy, If I were you I wouldn't trust anyone outside of that pretty little wench of yours. She seems loyal enough, however, it was a KGB claim that everyone in America has a price. JFK could probably concur with that theory. Now that being said, do you really think there is one single nation on this globe that isn't trying to play both sides of the fence. In God we trust all other pay with their life, and God hasn't spoke to anyone since Moses, so i suppose a secret with him is safe or perhaps non-exsistant. Some animals eat there own young. I wasn't saying Isreal was on our side at all or any cost, thye would be foolish to put all their eggs in a basket with the same people that have bailed on their proclaimed allies for decades, ask the Poles, or the Kurds after the first Gulf conflict or perhaps the other people their that don't trust us, the Shiites. People don't trust us, not because we're war mongers, but because our word sucks. Just examine that. Bull

meatcleaver -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 12:01:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sleazy I wonder Meat, how does all this fit in with the murder of a film maker on a Dutch street fit in with all this? Were the people responsible radicals? If not what were they? He was a lone nutter, whether you want to call him radical or not is neither here nor there. The IRA, ETA and the Red Army Faction have all caused terror on European streets without people feeling alarmed that European civilisation is under threat. There is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with but let's not get it out of all proportion. If radical Islam isn't even in control of a country yet, a whole continent isn't going to fall to them.

UtopianRanger -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 1:26:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx You don’t think Israel is in trouble if we leave? These people don’t even remember why the hate the Jews, but they are fighting the worlds oldest Hatfield and McCoy family feud. Listen, these people HATE OUR GUTS!!!! They ahet us Zionist pigs and they don't care if you don't follow Jewdism or Christianity. They don’t even know why they hate us, they just do, some jargon about this father begot this father and Abraham slept with a slave, Sara couldn’t have children and wait, they even have the same family roots!….Now I’m not being blasphemous to anyone beliefs here but what the hell is that fight about, who is more right about God, and God wants you to kill those that see it differently. I always found it interesting when I received one of my various security clearances that Isreal is considered an espionage threat. Apparently, anything Isreal can get it's hands on is sold to the Chinese (or 20 years ago, the Soviets) all the while talking about how much they love the U.S. With friends like that, who needs enemies? Just me, etc. Sinergy HAR!! Is that ever true. Not only that.....but then the Chinese resell the technology back to those who hate Israel. The technology used to develop the guidance system in the Chinese Yingji-82 {C802} cruise missiles went from Loreal to the Jews, who in turn sold it to China, who in turn used it to develop the missiles. Then China sells the missiles to Iran, who then ship them to Hezbollah. Hezbollah, then late last year, uses one of those missiles to score a direct hit on an Israeli war ship. From the US to Israel to China to Iran to Hezbollah - Then back at the Jews with a reverse smiley face. [8\|] That is the perfect reason why I say any politician who tries to manipulate us and turn the Muslims into the boogeyman, is full of shit. Sure....there's a some radical muslims out there....but they'd be throwing rocks instead of launching missles if wasn't for these greedy politicians /CEO's. Isn't greed great? - R

seeksfemslave -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 1:30:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 We will see what you guys think when these muslims take over Europe. They've made no secret that taking over Europe is their goal. An Islamic cleric said that one day the islamic flag will fly over the British Parliament. And it isn't paranoia. Italy and France both have populations of declining birthrates for domestic families. And these countries are allowing muslims in by the millions a year. Currently 25% of the population in France under age 21 is Muslim. By 2030, 25% of all of France will be Muslim. And that will be well more than enough to influence national elections. Differential birth rates, favouring immigrants in general, are undeniably going to cause serious social conflict in the future as the per capita number of the culturally diverse rises exponentially. ie they become a greater % of the total population. Think back to the 50's, indeed watch UK newsreels of the time and see the glowing positive optimistic assessments as to how wonderful things were going to be as wave after wave of West Indians emerged from the ships docking at British ports. Not so optimistic now are you Charley lol The Islamic invasion is far more politically motivated and wants change. And by Allah they will turn to violence if they dont get it. NO?

Rule -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 2:23:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx Aren't you fun... Yes, I am. ; ) quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx Rather brilliant tactic, a personal attack It wasn't. quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx surely you could do better than accosting my name. I rather like your name. It rhymes with mine. quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx Care to stand bare fisted against a water buffalo? I do believe they are referred to as Bulls. Naw. They are rather myopic, aren't they? Hence they have difficulty recognizing a friend. Anyways, there are various ways to make peace with the Bull. quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx Hate the message, not the messenger. Quite. quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx Wolves often wear the clothing of sheep. (winks) Quite. quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx Perhaps you should study the ideas of a Tuchuk, the truth may not always be that about a man that you see. Quite. quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx I have no idea how you tie an illegal substance to the work of nations, it surely has impact on a society, but has no great effect on the function of industry. What do you suppose is bought with the profits? Service and high technology. quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx I'll concur that food and fresh water have merits, but what about the machinary that produces the vast quantities of food that feed all you inner city folk. I only assume you live in a city. Food is obtainable in the country where I come from. Unfortunately I live in a city. quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx Your wisdom and compassion are present today, what good have they done up till this point. Valuable, yes, in use, therein lies yet another question. Satan is without both wisdom and compassion and does not realize yet that despite all his wealth and power, he is poor indeed without those intangible assets. quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx Thanks for not holding who I am against me, that would have stiffled your entire point that I'm on the wrong side. If that is what you are leading to. I could see no other reason to dispute my points. No, if you are the Bull, you most certainly are not on the wrong side, but a good guy that is merely deluded.

sleazy -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 4:47:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver If radical Islam isn't even in control of a country yet, a whole continent isn't going to fall to them. You think? Did the German police have to consult with minorty groups before trying to arrest RAF members, or the Spanish talk to the basques before raiding an ETA bomb making factory, etc etc? Yet police action against muslims needs to be cleared by a consultation panel. As for an arrest during ramadam, not if you fancy a long and varied career as a police officer! Let us not forget just what you can get away with should you manage to become a senior police officer from a minority, fraud, threatening behaiour, adultery, and of course publishing anything you like about your employers and still be in line for promotion to even nearer the top of the tree. How about the fact that the majority of media outlets refused to publish some cartoons for fear of violence in the streets or directed at publishers? Yet on the other hand The Life of Brian and Jerry Springer the Opera are free to get mainstream broadcast. Control is not always gained at the top, but slowly nibbles into the sides until suddenly you wake up one morning wondering why the Lutherean chapel is burning.

popeye1250 -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 8:22:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 We will see what you guys think when these muslims take over Europe. They've made no secret that taking over Europe is their goal. An Islamic cleric said that one day the islamic flag will fly over the British Parliament. And it isn't paranoia. Italy and France both have populations of declining birthrates for domestic families. And these countries are allowing muslims in by the millions a year. Currently 25% of the population in France under age 21 is Muslim. By 2030, 25% of all of France will be Muslim. And that will be well more than enough to influence national elections. Differential birth rates, favouring immigrants in general, are undeniably going to cause serious social conflict in the future as the per capita number of the culturally diverse rises exponentially. ie they become a greater % of the total population. Think back to the 50's, indeed watch UK newsreels of the time and see the glowing positive optimistic assessments as to how wonderful things were going to be as wave after wave of West Indians emerged from the ships docking at British ports. Not so optimistic now are you Charley lol The Islamic invasion is far more politically motivated and wants change. And by Allah they will turn to violence if they dont get it. NO? Seeks, true. I could never figure out why if "diversity" is such a "good" thing then why aren't countries like China, Japan, India and muslim countries engaging in it? Why do Western countries "need" to be "diverse?"

meatcleaver -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 8:24:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sleazy You think? Did the German police have to consult with minorty groups before trying to arrest RAF members, or the Spanish talk to the basques before raiding an ETA bomb making factory, etc etc? Yet police action against muslims needs to be cleared by a consultation panel. As for an arrest during ramadam, not if you fancy a long and varied career as a police officer! Let us not forget just what you can get away with should you manage to become a senior police officer from a minority, fraud, threatening behaiour, adultery, and of course publishing anything you like about your employers and still be in line for promotion to even nearer the top of the tree. How about the fact that the majority of media outlets refused to publish some cartoons for fear of violence in the streets or directed at publishers? Yet on the other hand The Life of Brian and Jerry Springer the Opera are free to get mainstream broadcast. Control is not always gained at the top, but slowly nibbles into the sides until suddenly you wake up one morning wondering why the Lutherean chapel is burning. The Spanish were very sensitive to the Basques and had a policy of political engagement and devolution in order to isolate the terrorists from the host population. It has for the most part worked, despite a hardcore of Basque diehard terrorists. Since the Red Army Faction were ethnic German and the host population was German and the government was German, routine politics was the consultation. However, Britain doesn't consult muslims before it arrests alledged terrorists. It tries to keep the muslim community informed and allay their fears in the face of irrational prejudice in the media. While I would defend free speach even in the face of the most ardent muslim, going out of ones way to insult a religion and culture is unnecessarily provocative and the cartoons were reprinted with the sole purpose of provocation. The Life Of Brian doesn't insult Jesus as it is made quite clear in the film that Brian isn't Jesus. But Europeans are brought in secular societies and the majority are pretty ambivalent to religion and are only nominally Christian in name, where Islam is deeply embedded in the culture of muslims so it is going to be very easy to insult them. I would defend Rusdie's book but I wouldn't defend the cartoons. Its a question of intent.

NorthernGent -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 12:59:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy After the tsunami they had on some woman who said that this was God's will to punish the Muslims.... I can just imagine it.........."we must fight evil, we must tame evil, we must laminate evil, we must wear evil 'round our necks at the backstage party in paradise!"......carrying banners with "do your duty, lynch the evil doers" slogans. These fundamentalists are completely and utterly as mad as a bag of cats.

NorthernGent -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 2:05:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy After the tsunami they had on some woman who said that this was God's will to punish the Muslims.... I can just imagine it.........."we must fight evil, we must tame evil, we must laminate evil, we must wear evil 'round our necks at the backstage party in paradise!"......carrying banners with "do your duty, lynch the evil doers" slogans. These fundamentalists are completely and utterly as mad as a bag of cats. ....where's a tornado when you need one?...... she's stood in the garden, giving the interview and self-righteously declaring the tsunami is the wrath of the lord.....and just as she finishes the sentence a tornado whistles through her home and carries her, her car and her house-goat off into the distance.......

Sanity -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 4:42:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent ...where's a tornado when you need one?...... she's stood in the garden, giving the interview and self-righteously declaring the tsunami is the wrath of the lord.....and just as she finishes the sentence a tornado whistles through her home and carries her, her car and her house-goat off into the distance....... Is that anything like a certain someone openly regretting that terrorists didn't strike a particular newspaper building...

domiguy -> RE: Fox News Report on Radical Islam (3/5/2007 5:02:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent ...where's a tornado when you need one?...... she's stood in the garden, giving the interview and self-righteously declaring the tsunami is the wrath of the lord.....and just as she finishes the sentence a tornado whistles through her home and carries her, her car and her house-goat off into the distance....... Is that anything like a certain someone openly regretting that terrorists didn't strike a particular newspaper building... No it's nothing like that....It's regarding the misfortune of others and equating their misfortune to God's anger for being Muslim as well as against the U.S....God does crazy shit like that! He hates people who live in trailer parks...Very complex dude!...Hates California and New Orleans cause of all the Homos and all of the stuff they do to each others poopers.

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