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puella -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 5:52:19 PM)

You, Sir, are a confirmed flirt!




farglebargle -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 6:14:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Actually farg, I did not attach any level of importance to it, yet again you try to argue against somehting I never claimed. Rather pathetic attempt to avoid my point. I simply provided you with evidence that the Clinton administration stated it was true and gave it as a reason for attacking and killing people.


But it's not TRUE. A double INDIRECT Linkage is True? In fantasyland maybe. And the retaliatory strikes against Bin Laden were exactly that. Against Al Quaida. We have differing opinions.

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You can dance around and avoid the point all you want. The fact is you claimed there was no link, and I proved to you that the Clinton administration claimed there was, and killed people over it.


Was there a Clinton Administration to give testimony to the 9/11 commission, or was it an ex-member of the Administration giving testimony. Because there's a difference. The devil is in the details, and the details can get you tossed in prison under the wrong circumstances. Details do matter.

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I am asking you( and any other Clinton suppporter) was he lying or not? We hit afghanistan to try and kill Bin Laden in response ot the African bombings. We knew that Bin Laden had already left Sudan. We hit the plant in Sudan because of the ( claimed) chemical weopons link between Bin Laden and Iraq.


I'm not a Clinton Supporter, It's more like, Clinton's Fuckup is fucking peanuts comparted to Bush's Fuckup, and it's disingenous to waste time on ancient history when High Crimes are going on right now.

Anyway, We hit Sudan in response to the same African bombings. GETTING Bin Ladin would have been gravy, but not the essential point of the exercise. If after the fact, someone points out that theres a double indirect linkage -- MAYBE. Well, that's pretty tenuous. And not really necessary, given the legitimate nature of retaliating against Al Quaida.

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But hey Farg you are the only one who would even respond, all of the other Democrats were afraid to even engage


I'm not a Democrat. I understand these days ANYONE who questions The PARTY LINE is branded an outcast, and libtard is the general category. But us Traditional Conservatives have hated Bush LONG before the Democrats. Because Bush lies about being a Conservative.

Hell, he SIGNED No Child Gets Ahead, what other Socialist creditintials could anyone need?





luckydog1 -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 6:29:37 PM)

No Farg you are now lying.  We did not hit a pharmecutical plant in Sudan in response to the african bombing.  We only hit one target in Sudan.  the Al shifa Medical campus, where the Clinton Admin alleged that Iraq was aiding OBL in making Nerve Gas.  At the same time we attacked Afghanistan, hitting I believe 27 sites there, trying to kill Bin laden and his people.  That was in response to the African bombings.  And we hit Iraq at the same time hundreds of sites, because of on going violations of WMD sanctions. 
there is no difference.  Choen and Clarke will allways have been members of the Clinton administration.  And they were before Congress giving testimony about what the administration(they) did, and why, when they were key figures in it. 

To refer to 1998 as ancient history is just plain retarded, and shows the level of your political thinking.  The struggle between Al queda and the USA is current and on going.  And there really isn't anything more to say.

You are scared to say if the Clinton administration was lying about the reasons they gave for attacking Sudan and killing people.  It is easy to see why.  All of the Clinton supporters seem to be afraid to even acknowledge the question.  He did lie and kill people, or there were WMD links between Saddam and Bin Laden.

It will be funny when this gets put in Hillary's face in the election though.  Why do you think she has been so  hawkish?  You think she can actually say that Bill was lying?
People who were paying attention before 911 happened, all were aware that Clinton had made these claims, and it fit perfectly with what Bush later claimed and acted on.




farglebargle -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 7:16:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

No Farg you are now lying. We did not hit a pharmecutical plant in Sudan in response to the african bombing. We only hit one target in Sudan. the Al shifa Medical campus, where the Clinton Admin alleged that Iraq was aiding OBL in making Nerve Gas.


Ok, I'm done playing with you.

Are you Saying Al Shifa wasn't the Al Shifa pharmaceutical factory?

Are you Saying that on August 20, 1998 we didn't attack it in retaliation for the August 7th truck bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya?

I'd like to think that's some sort of error on your part, because otherwise, it's pointless to waste time on you.





luckydog1 -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 7:27:24 PM)

No farg I cited you the reasons from the Clinton adminstration as to why we bombed the Al shifa medical factory/plant/campus( it was not one building).  That is correct we DID NOT attack a pharmecutical plant in retaliation for the truck bombings.  We hit Afghanistan in retaliation for the african bombings.  Not Sudan.  I cited the reasons we hit Sudan already, according to the lcinton admin, nerve gas production in a scheme between Iraq and Al queda.  Or perhaps Clinton was telling a lie, attacking a soverign nation, and people died as a result. 

Farg I am glad you are done playing.  You did start to seem rather stupid, but I guess thats a fun game for you.

Now was the Clinton adminstration lying in its stated reason for attackign Sudan and killing people..or not? 
If you are not a Clinton supporter I see no reason for you to not just answer the question, since you are done with your stupid games now




farglebargle -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 7:32:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

No farg I cited you the reasons from the Clinton adminstration as to why we bombed the Al shifa medical factory/plant/campus( it was not one building). That is correct we DID NOT attack a pharmecutical plant in retaliation for the truck bombings.


CNN disagrees:

"Of course, the U.S. doesn't glibly fire cruise missiles at a factory in a far-off country. The decision was taken against the backdrop of the pressure to retaliate for the embassy strike, very real concerns that bin Laden might be planning further attacks using chemical weapons, Sudan's history as a haven for terrorists (including bin Laden) and evidence that bin Laden had sought to develop chemical weapons there. All of that, and a soil sample showing traces of a nerve gas building block."







luckydog1 -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 7:39:49 PM)

so you give me an unsourced quote from an unknown person on CNN, and think it has precedent over the actually sworn  testimony of the men who ordered the attacks.

HA HA HA I get your still playing stupid.  Or maybe you really do think CNN is more valid, and that 1998 was ancient history.

Farg if you want to play you have to give me a real cite, about Sudan. Not Afghanistan or Iraq.  Now if you actually knew anything about this issue you would know that the referenced Soil sample building block is the proof of the link to Iraq.  At least according to the CLinton adminstration.  Now were they lying or not?  Or keep playing stupid.  It suits you.




BradleytheKajiru -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 7:57:31 PM)

I'd just like to point out that Clinton never had an impeachment trial for getting oral sex in the Oval Office.  Never happened.  INSTEAD, the trial that DID happen was the impeachment trial he had for lying under oath.  He said he never had sexual relations with that woman, then said he did.  His impeachment was because he lied under oath, and I cannot explain this enough times.  I'm so tired of hearing "He was about to get kicked out because he got oral sex omfg!"  I'm tired of that.  So if you keep saying that, you have no excuse for your stupidity.

Also, Clinton didn't get impeached because his Vice was Gore.  We Republicans like Clinton better than Gore.  =]

And please...  when you bring up the 9/11 bomings under Bush's administration, please don't forget to bring up the numerous bombings on the very same building under Clinton's administration.  And don't forget Somalia.  I don't remember democrats calling out soldiers "murderers" and "mercenaries" then.  Don't dishonor them now.  I had to get that out of my system, I'm sorry.  x.x

Now that the tables are evened, please continue!  This is a good thread.




thompsonx -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 8:03:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: puella

Here is the appropriate thread to discuss the former president getting oral sex from a chick besides his wife.

And here is the appropriate musical accompaniment.

Enjoy!

~stef

stef:
I do not know who you  are or where you came from but if this clip is any indication of who you are and where you come from ....I love you.
thompson




thompsonx -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 8:24:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: puella

You, Sir, are a confirmed flirt!


puella:
You, madam, are totally hot.
I would like to get in line.
thompson




farglebargle -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 8:28:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

so you give me an unsourced quote from an unknown person on CNN, and think it has precedent over the actually sworn testimony of the men who ordered the attacks.

HA HA HA I get your still playing stupid. Or maybe you really do think CNN is more valid, and that 1998 was ancient history.

Farg if you want to play you have to give me a real cite, about Sudan. Not Afghanistan or Iraq. Now if you actually knew anything about this issue you would know that the referenced Soil sample building block is the proof of the link to Iraq. At least according to the CLinton adminstration. Now were they lying or not? Or keep playing stupid. It suits you.


What's with you and Clinton?

Geez, you can't hit CNN's site and pull the story from the quote? And I dunno about you, but even without my glasses, I see the word Sudan right there in the CNN quote.

And the soil samples from outside the Plant? Yeah, that was dodgy.

Was there a point to any of this? I mean, aside from "Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right"?

Oh, yeah...

"And was struck by the difference. It's clear to me by Cohen's words, that the goal is to defend AMERICAN citizens and interests, and our ideals of democracy and law.

Contrast with Bush's strategy of not DEFENDING anything, but lying, attacking, and occupying a sovereign nation supposedly to SPREAD our ideals of democracy and law. Which apparently, The Iraqi People don't care for very much.

Anyway, it seems prudent military strategy to toss a half-dozen cruise missiles at some bad guys to tying up our needed troops as sitting ducks in the middle of a civil war."

You seem to equate Clinton's supposedly dodgy info about the Pharma plant in Sudan to Bush's crimes against 18 USC 371? Can you prove a consipracy to defraud the United States for Clinton, b/c if you could find a Federal Prosecutor who would take the job, given all the politically motivated firings at DOJ recently, they *could* make a great case for the indictment of Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Powell, et. al.

To the law, lying to congress... FIBBING to congress is just as bad as FIBBING to a FBI agent, which is why Scooter Libby is a Convicted Felon tonight. It's why Martha Stewart served a year.

If the Veeps Chief of Staff can be convicted of felonies, there's no reason to think anyone CAN'T be held accountable under the rule of law.





BradleytheKajiru -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 8:32:50 PM)

CNN is politically motivated.  They show this in their refusal to air anything GOOD about Iraq.  They only feed the world all the bad things, and fan the flames just enough to make all of those left wing conspiracies an adamant part of the "anti-Bush" party.

But let's talk about something funny!  Like Hillary Clinton's southern drawl.  Pretending to be something you're not, Hillary?  A politician.




farglebargle -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 8:36:49 PM)

There are what? 250,000 Dead Iraqis, and you think there's something GOOD about it?





BradleytheKajiru -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 9:00:45 PM)

Where do you get your numbers?  CNN?

Shut your mouth and open your ears for a little bit.  You might see that CNN contradicts itself all the time.  But you're so eager to eat up all the Anti-Bush stuff.  Believe it or not, the Anti-Bush party is really small...  They're just very very loud.  But yes, I do believe there is LOTS of good coming out of Iraq.  Like the schools we've built, the girls that won't get raped, the boys that will be able to live long enough to grow up.  Saddam cut off people's hands for not paying taxes, but he offered free healthcare.

On top of that, Iran is making the parties fight.  They're funding one or the other to bomb the other's holy places.  They want us to leave.  Because when American leaves, who is the dominant power in the middle east?  Iran.  PLEASE look at the big picture, ALWAYS question EVERYTHING you're being told.  Don't accept it because you like or hate the current president.  And please realize that you're not being a "rebel" by hating Bush.  You're just being a moron.




dcnovice -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 9:03:37 PM)

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And please realize that you're not being a "rebel" by hating Bush.  You're just being a moron.


Actually, I'd argue you're being an American.




BradleytheKajiru -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 9:10:34 PM)

American's actually love their country enough to respect the troops.  Democrats continuously leave them high and dry and they still do their job without question.  And yes, I'm insinuating that certain democrats might be less American than others.

People think they're bringing back the hippy days by hating Bush.  I actually laugh, it doesn't piss me off at all.  The only thing I hate is when the troops are dishonored by uneducated poser politicians and the people who back them.




dcnovice -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 9:12:45 PM)

Oh, I respect the troops plenty--so much so that I think they deserve a far commander in chief than they have now.




dcnovice -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 9:14:35 PM)

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The only thing I hate is when the troops are dishonored by uneducated poser politicians and the people who back them.


Whereas I kinda hate when they're sent into harm's way for dubious reasons by politicians who never faced combat themselves. But that's just me.




BradleytheKajiru -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 9:43:02 PM)

That whole thing again?  Okay, let me explain something to you.  There are warriors in the world, and there are leaders.  You're one or the other.  Leaders don't see combat.  There's alot more to that argument, but I'm sure you already know.

Next, I'd like to say something about the commander and chief comment.  Soldiers respect ranks, not people.  They follow orders from the RANK not the person.  A commander and chief is a commander and chief.  AND A commander and chief is advised by a pannel of Generals.

And before it's brought up, I'd like to end the argument before it's started.  We're not in Iraq for oil.  And if we ARE, it's the democrat's faults.  We have enough oil in Alaska to sustain our needs for years upon years, but democrats won't allow drilling.  I understand why, but if you want to start that argument, there's my reply BEFORE you start.  Before anyone starts.  =]  I'm out for the night.  Thankies.




dcnovice -> RE: Clinton got a blowjob! (3/7/2007 9:47:33 PM)

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There are warriors in the world, and there are leaders. 


And there are vice presidents who got multiple draft deferments because they had "other priorities" during Vietnam.

For much of history, BTW, leaders were warriors.




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