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sleazybutterfly -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 10:10:45 AM)

When Master and I were first together, he talked of wanting to see me used by others.  Now, if I bring it up, he pretty much shoots it down.  I think he loves me, and doesn't want to share me with another man, plain and simple.  I would rather have him care too much though, than to just throw me out there for anyone.



deadbluebird -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 11:27:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
We should all be free to be who they are.  The idea of limiting who my partner can be with or what they can do with others goes against who I am and what I consider "love" to be.

That doesn't mean I don't have preferences and turn-ons, simply that I don't turn my turn-ons into rules of expectation and limitation for them.


We should all be free to be who we are, i agree. Not all men want to watch their partner with another person. Not all men want to be with another woman either. My current partner has no interest in being with another woman. This isnt denial on my part, or lies on his. Because i love him even if i were extreamly attracted to another i would refrain from contact which he feels is inapproperate. To me the feel of another, a new cock inside me is not worth hurting my partner.

A few people have mentioned that we Are animals after all, so it is natural to want to sleep with more than one person. This is not a factual statement. Many animals are monogamous. There are even monkey's that are monogamous such as the titi monkey, mentawai leaf monkey, also gibbons which are "lesser apes".

Everyone is different, people desire different things. At different stages of ones life, with different partners people desire different things.

DaddyDeSade i can understand why you wouldnt understand someone getting turned on by that, as it does not turn you on. People have a hard time understanding feelings they do not feel. People tend to think that there must be something wrong with someone that does not desire what they desire.  They think they must not trust, they must be insecure, they must be sick. People need to accept that everyone is different. People need to stop thinking people should conform their beliefs to allign with theirs.

Eh i'm rambling..sorry.




Dnomyar -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 11:47:04 AM)

I like the people on here who say they have a hard time finding the right someone. Then when they say that they have found them send them out to find others to play with.



1969slave -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 12:06:24 PM)

i only wish dominates and masters would realize what your loving slave goes through when you give her to others. our love is to you our loyality is to you and i will submit my body to your punishments and accept them willingly but to have anothers fingers in me, another betwen my legs or mouth, we're your property so please love and respest us for becoming the whore you make us into.   m



CreativeDominant -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 2:38:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: 1969slave

i only wish dominates and masters would realize what your loving slave goes through when you give her to others. our love is to you our loyality is to you and i will submit my body to your punishments and accept them willingly but to have anothers fingers in me, another betwen my legs or mouth, we're your property so please love and respest us for becoming the whore you make us into.   m


Sounds rather martyr-ish.  Excuse me for not being politically correct or sounding as if I don't care because I am a very caring person.  I can give you references.
But the way you put the act of being used by others at the order of your master makes it sound as if it is something tremendously horrendous that you only do to make your master happy and that you should be recognized with his love and respect for that.  Why should that act be any different from any other act of slavery you perform for him?  Because you didn't sign up for it and yet believe that a slave should do what her master tells her, even if she doesn't like the act?   If the act is so horrendous and yet you still choose to do it..because after all, that IS what you signed up for...then don't make it sound as if he should be paying you for it by being extremely grateful and treating you just that much better.
Your master cannot make you into a ... as you call it...whore without your consent, whether it was initially or now.  As has been noted on here many times before...slave or submissive, you have the right to choose that "this path", whatever the particular path is at the critical time, is the one you won't go down.



RLowner -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 2:56:20 PM)

Reply to 1969slave

I for one find it a total lack of any respect that has been built between the dom, dome,  master or owner if he or she forces the use of his by another for his or her own pleasure. Yes it may make some feel macho or masterly seeing he or she has the power to force it but at what COST.  In today society is the person clean and free of any disease or any virus or anything that can cause harm and or even death in time to his slave or sub. I feel if someone is going to use another’s at their request then they are likely doing it at other places and are they clean, well likely not. There is NO protection that can give 1000% guaranteed safety that the sub or slave will not get a virus or worse leading to death. If not death some life long problems. How small are we that we get a perverted pleasure from seeing this happen for a one time or more thrill but the thrill is for one person only and the true fear is in the eyes and mind and body or the one being forced to accept it. Wise up folks yes this life brings joy to both and fulfillment to both but under consensual conditions not forged with out consent. I am very sure there is many that would not honor a safe word if your sub or slave objected but of those how many who will stand by her as she takes her last breath in the future. If any would I would hope they know they caused her slow murder by their actions. Wise up folks get real and understand the real meaning of this life not your own perverted desires being fulfilled by one who may died from it.  Remember safe sane and consensual is the best policy.  For those who wonder  yes I know m and I know of the life she lives and NO I dont agree with it but it is hers to live. I can only offer my support



Cuckme4Life -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 2:56:34 PM)

My vanilla "ex" and i were revealing fantasies one night and that is one she happened to share. She revealed a desire to be "slutted out" while i watch.... major turn-on once i really let that fantasy of hers sink in,,,, i did tell her that perhaps on her birthday i just might do what i can to fulfill that fantasy for her.... that is in october so wait and see if more gets said in the future... (if that "EX" comment is confusing, consider we are in constant contact daily and we dont know WHAT we are either).... but she really has expressed an interest in this.... so for her i would arrange it,, but not something i could deal with regularly by no means...



RLowner -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 3:06:12 PM)

Another thought  would be more humane to let your sub or slave put a bullet in a gun and spin the cylinder and pull the trigger. At least would not have to suffer for the rest of her life with aids or worse   Wise up people 



TemptingNviceSub -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 6:45:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: 1969slave

i only wish dominates and masters would realize what your loving slave goes through when you give her to others. our love is to you our loyality is to you and i will submit my body to your punishments and accept them willingly but to have anothers fingers in me, another betwen my legs or mouth, we're your property so please love and respest us for becoming the whore you make us into.   m
Whilst I understand and sympathize with what you are saying here, in some ways I have to agree with Creative Dominant..if you know going in that this would be an expectation of you to be shared with others and you found such to be a limit..then it should of been adhered to and thus either you accept that his wish is to share or you do not enter into that relationship with him..you find another with a more cohesive view if what it is that you sought..I am from the monogomous front, and thus if my Master said that he wished to  introduce others into "our" play then I would not have him as a Master...I do not decry those who have no difficulty in sharing or being shared, but it does get my goat when I see submissves come on and bemoan their fate and Dominants who use emotional blackmail to turn the tide of what has been or should of been agreed on from the beginning...The I will change him/her's mind later on concept is for fools and a guaranteed ending to that relationship in the near future......Tempting



WhiplashSmile -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 6:54:37 PM)

Oh Hell, this is another one of those Damn Trick Questions!
Yes, I have wanted to share a woman with another man or woman.
No, i have not felt this way when I've been in a deep emotional relationship.
Yes, I have felt this way in a deep emotional relationship because it would bring them more pleasure!
No, I have wanted to keep her all to myself.
Yes, I want to treat her like a whore.
No, I wanted to make her feel special by only me.

Oh HELL, this will drive me crazy!!!

This probally another reason why there are slave girly's out there who don't want Love either.




Evanesce -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 10:09:03 PM)

I don't mind sharing, but I'm just not all that excited about boffing other men.  Now if my GUY were to be with another guy... THAT might be interesting...



WhiplashSmile -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 10:50:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Evanesce

I don't mind sharing, but I'm just not all that excited about boffing other men.  Now if my GUY were to be with another guy... THAT might be interesting...


What is with you women!  I have a friend that is married, and she keeps saying that all the damn time.  The damnest thing though, she's extremely attractive, and she knows I have a thing for her.  As if she might be willing for some form of trade agreement.  Very Tempting and Very Hard Limit!  Feels like selling my soul to the devil if I take her up on this!



Wildfleurs -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/8/2007 11:43:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: 1969slave

i only wish dominates and masters would realize what your loving slave goes through when you give her to others. our love is to you our loyality is to you and i will submit my body to your punishments and accept them willingly but to have anothers fingers in me, another betwen my legs or mouth, we're your property so please love and respest us for becoming the whore you make us into.   m


Only one thing comes to mind reading this (and Howard Stern fans will recognize it)

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

C~



WhiplashSmile -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/9/2007 12:43:04 AM)

I'd like go a little deeper, and expand the subject a little!

Who here would like to watch their woman gang banged by a Group of men.
Come on, let's make this interesting for ratings, since somebody mentioned
Howard Stern...




Driver1961 -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/9/2007 12:44:55 AM)

He dips His lid to all,

RLowner;  One has to understand that we are all different (Yes a forum can be a conundrum of dichotomies) but realize that people can act responsibly and obtain their wants- yes there is always a risk when One crosses the road or drives a car. 

"Life is not a dress rehearsal" and 'Preparation is rewarded' come to mind.

  OneStandingStill:   Your words whether yours or intermixed from a book are apt n' beautiful.   'Excercising choice is Power'     My experiences resonate to your words.  

Regards to all,  Driver



FelinePersuasion -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/9/2007 12:52:56 AM)

Personally I play with others willingly, I enjoy it and I wish James would allow me more types of play with others than himself, because I an wired to enjoy multiple partners.
quote:

ORIGINAL: 1969slave

i only wish dominates and masters would realize what your loving slave goes through when you give her to others.



FelinePersuasion -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/9/2007 1:05:53 AM)

Just because youp lay with others does not mean you're gonna get aids, You could very well get aids from the only partner you ever had. I assume people who swing are careful clean and take measures to make sure all stay that way. this kind of automatic doomsday if you do it you'll get aids for sure is a bit over the top. Playing with others isn't going to 100 percent for sure land you with aids. Maybe if you fucked someone with out checking health yeah, but safer sex and knowing the person you're not gaurenteed aids.
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ORIGINAL: RLowner

Another thought  would be more humane to let your sub or slave put a bullet in a gun and spin the cylinder and pull the trigger. At least would not have to suffer for the rest of her life with aids or worse   Wise up people 



DaddyDeSade -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/9/2007 1:13:49 AM)

I actually have been poly my entire life. About five years ago I began to question whether it was working for me. Only these last say six to eight months have I decided unequivocally it is not. I liked the book the ethical slut in theory and have put it on many a suggested reading list. I would say I am comfortable taking credit for turning maybe ten people from mono to poly at least in theory, using many of the same arguements put forward in that book. But just like I had to realize that even though I am opposed to patriarchy as a concept I am a male Dom. I also had to realize that even though I agree with polyamory as a concept. It's just not for me.



sloki -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/9/2007 1:30:03 AM)

The most stable human group sizes are groups of three and five.  Probablity wise.

Its true, there are studies.[8|]

If we could remove patriarchy from the picture, (without presumably, removing the men) polyamory could be more stable than couples.

Thing is patriarchy even eats lesbian relationships.

k men, how many of you would support feminism more readily if you realize that some future world of ours could be pansexual and poly as a result...





WhiplashSmile -> RE: who wants to watch their woman with another man? (3/9/2007 1:36:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sloki
The most stable human group sizes are groups of three and five.  Probablity wise.


Think that holds true for rock bands as well...  three or five... get four together and it's not a good mix.  Interesting observation about three and five.  Where did you get this info from?  Would Love to read up on it?



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