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WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS PROVIDE


That all sub/slv positions should respect Dominants ?
  39% (9)
Dominant position b respected only if the sub/sl respects the Dominant
  30% (7)
No sub/slv position need respect Dominants position if not associated?
  21% (5)
sub/slv only respect Dominant position if another Dominant states so?
  4% (1)
All sub/slv positions be ignored and act as a vanilla ?
  4% (1)


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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/4/2004 3:49:56 AM   
MistressDREAD


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Status: offline 		bolster a claim?
hahahha If I had
been the one whom
discovered this fact
I would of been the
one to bolster the
claim however I was
mearly showing what
I knew to be the fact
shown Me. pretty well
in fact. Ohhh I totally
disagree with this
statement
quote:

Language is about the
transfer of knowledge

language is WAYYYY
more then just a
transfer of what
cha know. ~smiles~
You guys talkin
about all the other
smoozes remember
the question states
what does YOUR BDSM
protical on Positions
Provide? Not what the
OTHER PERSON EXPECTS.

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/4/2004 6:55:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: topcat
See, that's just it. I shouldn't waste my time with that sort, but I can't resist such an easy target....


SUCKAH!!!!

LOL!

I so couldn't resist either! hehehehe

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/7/2004 9:18:33 PM   
sudja


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Status: offline 		Well, I also think the survey is ill-defined.

However, my "protocol" is very simple - I treat all people with courtesy, generally even after they have proven they are not entitled to any.

As for titles, or other forms of "respect by label," I call people by their nicks or screen names. In real life I call them by their real names.

It's an amazingly simple system.

sudja

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/7/2004 11:17:23 PM   
Sinergy


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quote:

As for titles, or other forms of "respect by label," I call people by their nicks or screen names. In real life I call them by their real names.

It's an amazingly simple system.


I agree with this, except in some situations I dont know their nicks or screen names, plus, some dont want to be referred to by those.

So the approach I use is to ask them what they want me to call them, and then call them that.

It is an even simpler system...

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/9/2004 2:32:37 AM   
MistressDREAD


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Status: offline 		Sinergy You defeated Your Own words by giving Me such attention on My Poll........ and of course by everyone TOTALLY knowing I dispise spelling and speaking to perfection will continue to run everyone absolutly bonkers in My misplace words structure and ill spelt words and misplaced periods commas and the like and by not living up to others design but My Own still Hold My head up High to what I am and what Personna I Choose to put out for Your Special Attention Sinergy ~smiles~
oohhHHHH yea I like Conter Dick Ting My self too hence the polls that say one thing mean another and are totally garnished to what I designed them to be. I am such a Non Conformist Synic. Perfectly Dressed, Learned, Looked, Conformed Doms and Dommes are a dime a dozen....... I am Unique and there is a Method to My Madness~~

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/12/2004 2:33:26 PM   
iwillserveu


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Status: offline 		OK, for all you people who claim "protocol",

Why do you need an outside source to justify you? There is someone who wrote that I think. (I could be wrong, maybe it spontaneously generated.)

Of course if you are not confident and seek an outside authority...

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/12/2004 9:34:49 PM   
MistressDREAD


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Status: offline 		Why does any Group need such?
because this is whats needed in
order to be a part of that group.
Its what defines Us not only inside
the Group but outside of it as well.
This is what sets that Group aside
from any other Group. It defines Us.
Why do the Catholics worship deities
and other cristians do not?
Why do Democrats have a donkey as
their status symbol and other Political
Groups do not?
Why do USPS all wear brown suits and
other delivery Groups do not?
Why do College bands have a song thats
different from other College bands?
Why does the Black Panthers wear Black
Panthers on shirts and the KKK wear white Caps?
All these Proticals define who We are and
what Group We associate Our selfs with and
when those Proticals are tempted to be removed
or watered down it is only a tempt to make that
Group weaker in its grasp of what it holds true
and what defines it to be seperate from any other
group in Society as a whole.

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/13/2004 12:10:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD
Why does any Group need such? because this is whats needed in order to be a part of that group. Its what defines Us not only inside the Group but outside of it as well. This is what sets that Group aside from any other Group. It defines Us. Why do the Catholics worship deities
and other cristians do not? Why do Democrats have a donkey as their status symbol and other Political Groups do not? Why do USPS all wear brown suits and other delivery Groups do not?
Why do College bands have a song thats different from other College bands? Why does the Black Panthers wear Black Panthers on shirts and the KKK wear white Caps? All these Proticals define who We are and what Group We associate Our selfs with and when those Proticals are tempted to be removed or watered down it is only a tempt to make that Group weaker in its grasp of what it holds true and what defines it to be seperate from any other group in Society as a whole.


I personally do not feel the need to be defined by anyone but myself and those I might form a relationship with. And I'm surprised a 'nonconformist' would need such.

Somehow I don't see the UPS man wearing a brown uniform as a need or desire for definition, or validation, as much as a way to easily recognize who is at the door. For me there is a big difference between this and validation.

I will not grow weaker because I have no 'uniform' or 'protocol' by which to live. I grow weaker by allowing others outside of me to define and/or validate who I am.

I know who and what I am, whether wearing a brown suit, a green suit, a white suit, or no clothes at all. If others do not see it, perhaps it is because I wish them not to....on the other hand, it could be because they don't have the same ideals and charachter as I. But either way, it doesn't matter to me...because I can relate to them on other levels.

In my opinion, the KKK wears a uniform as validation because they lack the self esteem to know they can be strong individuals, among many colors...though that is a little off topic :)

indigo

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/13/2004 12:42:40 PM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		I would like to add my opinions to this discussion. If we take religion as an example, under the large umbrella of religion there are many different ways that people express their religous feelings and beliefs. They all believe in God, but the way in which they choose to do so can be very different.
I think the same thing applies to this lifestyle. Under the big BDSM umbrella, you have many different beliefs and approaches. Some are similar and some are very different. To try to make everyone follow the same thing or behave in the same manner is futile. It will never be a reality. To me that is no big deal.

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 6/13/2004 9:44:53 PM   
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quote:

perhaps it is because I
wish them not to.

This is My point indigo and sums
um just what I was saying
Many do not want others to know
they are associated with BDSM
hence do not desire to follow its
proticals and it is the ones that
are long established. And My
nonconformist ways lay in the
fact that I do not live up to societys
ways. Not that I do not live up
to BDSM ways.
Estring I was only using simple
samples as to how people show
alignment to a group and was not
singling out any group for spacifics
but I do know when you see what
defines those of the groups mentioned
you definatly know with out a doubt
where their position with in that group
is. That is what I was trying to show.
And yes there are Many Christian groups
and each group is defined by how they follow
its churches proticals for if they dident they
would all be of the same group and church
would they not? That is just another sample.
When I am in a BDSM Group and I am defined
as a Dominant with in that Group, I do expect
to be treated as such with in that Group. I would
treat others with in the Group in like. Outside of
The Group I am still known and defined as a part
of the same Group because I am not one whom
hides My Lifestyle but I do not expect society to
Treat Me any different then the rest of society out
side of My Group. When I meet a Group member
outside of Our Meetings I greet them in a manner
that is secular to Our Group in recognition. This
is what makes Our Membership and Protical stand
out in a society that is full of Groups of many structures
and Livings. Its what defines Us BDSMers to each other
and the Outside looking in. JMO

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/5/2004 7:31:23 PM   
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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/9/2004 6:07:05 PM   
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Language is about the
transfer of knowledge

knowledge is a personal expression.
music is knowledge.

conversely, the lack of disagreement, whether stated obfuscatorily (with or without humor) or with noncommittal cohesion of prose, rhetoric, sermon, or national alert color seriousness as to imply substance worthy of a complete transfer transaction will require noting less than acknowledgement and verification of each ideological element, such crumbs then create the challenge of accurate reconstruction, where each crumb is methodically placed in reverse polish order not limited to but absolutely demanding inclusion of sidebars, asides, comments from critical to whimsical, and an outlook suited to pursue the penultimate crumb reconstruction / reconsiliation.

John McLaughlin, the most visible icon of knowledge transfer simply defines such endeavors as 'WRONG, NEXT TOPIC'

John McLaughlin the virtuoso guitar player however presents his quest in the form of notes .. many many many many many notes over a brief period of time, stated in what has yet to be exceeded as the penultimuate expressoin of variation over time.

So as in the case of the two primary yarns in this interthreaded floss, the filament can be viewed as sanitized and usable to prevent bifurcation, fissures and exposure to prophylactic averse weighted residue. and as is the traditional practice to minimze clean up and eliminate bitter aftertaste, two hazmat repositories must always be provided, and all matter placed into one the two collections.
1. Right
2. Wrong

in some cultures they may be labelled
1. good
2 bad
(only used where bad is NOT synonymous with good)

and sometimes reusable fragments are stored in
1a. true
2a. false
containeers.

Given the volitle nature of container bound matter, it is recommended that Protective clothng made of leather rubber or simply cool economical stuff found at the hardware store with no imposed limits to adornment or ornimentation is worn and worn with the humble awareness of extreme danger. Although a formidable accomplishemnt, preventoin of displays of excessive festivity is a respected tradition.

NO matter what repositories are used, the labelled containers are picked up and disposed of safely, invisibly, and without any consequece to those who created it.

The only documented misuse was that of Swifty and Company who was infamous for their generation of 'new brown clouds' and their proposals to revise how time and age are calculated.

my language was used to convey this transfer of knowledge.
my language , my language , my wristwatch, my fistfuck

I OWE ALL THIS TO FIBER AND MY BELIEF THAT WE ARE ALL IN OUR MAKERS IMAGE, SO IF WE'RE DUMB THEN THE MAKER'S DUMB.. and maybe a little ugly on the side.
TAX THE HELL OUT OF THE CHURCHES TAX THE HELL OUT OF THE CHURCHES..

WHAT DOES MY BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS PROVIDE ?
process analysis process analysis process integration collaboration and the satisfaction of knowing we be oneded again.
so yeah. . weee bad


< Message edited by SFantasy -- 7/11/2004 12:14:43 AM >

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/9/2004 8:02:19 PM   
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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/9/2004 8:07:31 PM   
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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/9/2004 11:28:13 PM   
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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/9/2004 11:29:26 PM   
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Hey! you're super!

Congrats!

stay warm,
Lawrence

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/10/2004 1:16:29 AM   
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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/10/2004 5:49:05 AM   
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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/10/2004 9:15:21 AM   
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quote:

Wow, someone more confusing than Dread!


I was afraid it was only me who didn't follow that post, whewwwww it's not just me.

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RE: WHAT DOES YOUR BDSM PROTICAL ON sub/slv POSITIONS P... - 7/10/2004 2:35:31 PM   
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quote:

I always wondered who wrote the copy for the Bronners Soap Bottles.....




Heh.. always wondered that too

Laffs very hard

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