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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/22/2007 12:37:12 PM   
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In probably one the worst and the most extensive probes in history, Jack Abramoff stands at the core of web corruption, touching the lives of numerous Republican lawmakers, staffers, lobbyists, and operatives. Known as the Republican "superlobbyist", Abramoff's admission to felony charges in the Indian Gaming Scandal led to the convictions of three disgraced prominent Congressmen: Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-CA) for receiving more than $2M in bribes in a criminal conspiracy involving defense contractors; Bob Ney (R-OH) for accepting bribes in exchange for various legislative favors; and Tom DeLay (R-TX) from Sugarland for being involved in numerous ethics violations with regard to bribery and conspiracy. In cooperation with Federal prosecutors, Abramoff has touched off a string of scandals involving many more Republicans caught in various violations with regard to bribery and illegal campaign fundings.


McCain sidetracked this investigation by leaping on it and directing a "thorough" investigation of the indian aspects of this and limiting it to Abramoff directly rather than directing it toward Rove and the K Street Gang.  The Indian side of this, while obscene (more money and corruption that all of the right wing conspiracy crap against Clinton combined and unlike Clinton, at this point there are lots of convictions) is only the tip of the iceburg.  If the dems open this back up and look at the white house memos, it will get very very ugly. 

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/31/2007 2:38:01 AM   
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And who remembers Ms. Fanny Fox, that delightful stripper who frolicked in the Tidal Basin with Wilbur Mills? 


I remember when that hit the news...rather embarressing for all involved...then 14th street and burleske was alive and thriving....

Seems Marion Barry did a rather pale immitation of the act if you ask Me...

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/31/2007 2:40:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKYReturning (!!) honesty and integrity to public service shouldn't be strait-jacketed into simple partisan politics.

Unless you have an agenda, that is.


The only agenda should be righting the wrongs and replacing the wrong doers.

Period.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/31/2007 2:41:45 AM   
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Then we have an unprotected border with Mexico and 15-20 million illegal aliens in this country.
When a President, ANY President *refuses* to enforce federal law I think that's a lot more than a scandal it's an impeachable offense!


Can you tell Me what the inscription on the Staute of Liberty says and how that came to be?

Might you give us all a history lesson on Ellis Island?

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/31/2007 6:04:56 AM   
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cyberdude611
Bush never himself tied Saddam to Al-Queda.


Hey cyberdude... what happened to defending our President when he recently claimed , on many occassions, that he never said that al qaeda and Saddam were linked?....Care to comment on that?...Seemed like you kind of wanted to avoid the conversation after you posted in agreement with our most recent  "Lying President."

Doesn't it piss you off to have to defend the actions of people who have no comprehension of the truth or honor?

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/31/2007 6:13:20 AM   
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Doesn't it piss you off to have to defend the actions of people who have no comprehension of the truth or honor?


not at all domi, that  is being no more than  a  careful fly.  If you don't land, you  run less risk of a swatting, but  I will point out that there are electronics that can fuck you up.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/31/2007 2:23:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please.....these all pail by comparison to the ursupation of the presidendency of the US by Bush et al.

This war which has sent the US into bankruptcy.

Nothing can compare to this.  Oh, yes the cow-gate, Lewinsky, and the Flower-gate, yes that would compare to ursupation of the Government by the Bush family.

Knewt Ginrich.....don't forgetiy him, a man of honor.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/31/2007 2:50:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		A few comments but doubt it will do much good:

1) Politicians have scandals, regardless of party.
2) Politicians serve their own interest and not those of the people.
3) The people have taught them very well how to act, we the people need to take responsibility for all that crap.
4) Regardless of reasons for war, we are there so deal with it on how to accomplish a mission once started.
5) Learn from history.
6) Nothing in the constitution guarantees our right to vote on a national level anyway.
7) If you want a revolution then just vote out every congressman in the House, regardless of party and send a clear message that the people are tired of business as usual politics.
8) Recognize that the Free Enterprise system built this country, dedicated men and women that worked for the American Dream. More government involvement in anything means less control of your own destiny.
9) The government is educating the new generations of the masses, have you checked how they are doing this.
10) If you are bickering between politcal parties, we do not need anymore sport enthusiast determining our future. The choices are human choices and not between which party is winning and losing. Those are politicians and they work for you so remind them of that fact.
11) Government ineffeciancy has lead to what this country is today. We the people are responsible for what our government does.
12) US Senators used to be appointed by the states, they did not have to worry about a campaign and thus did not have to suck up to lobbyist for money. Think about it.
13) Who here will sacrifice their blood on the tree of liberty?


Many nits in there to pick but maybe some will actually research one or all of these points, and in the end be a better person for it.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/31/2007 7:51:02 PM   
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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/1/2007 5:11:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello, You forgot to include in your list.....John Ramsey
I think he ran for senator of Michigan just recently; and sadly, defeated.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/1/2007 5:42:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

Can you tell Me what the inscription on the Staute of Liberty says and how that came to be?



[tongue in cheek]

It was given to us as an evil ruse by those cheese-eating surrender monkeys, the French.

You dont really expect us to believe those words, do you?

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/1/2007 9:03:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

Can you tell Me what the inscription on the Staute of Liberty says and how that came to be?



It was given to us by  the French.

You dont really expect us to believe those words, do you?




The French haven't done much for the US in a while...seems they have a short memory.

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses."

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/1/2007 9:06:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf
12) US Senators used to be appointed by the states, they did not have to worry about a campaign and thus did not have to suck up to lobbyist for money. Think about it.


The Bush administration is the one that has the highest percentage of special interest reps and lobbiest that have been appointed to govermental positions than any other administration and it will take a decade to rid them.

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses."

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/1/2007 9:17:54 PM   
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Can you tell Me what the inscription on the Statue of Liberty says and how that came to be?


The inscription on the statue itself (i.e., on the tablet that Liberty is holding) says "JULY IV MDCCLXXVI," or "July 4, 1776."

Your "huddled masses" quote comes from a poem, "The New Colossus," written by Emma Lazarus and auctioned off to help raise funds for building the pedestal (which was America's contribution to Liberty Island). The poem was later put on a plaque and affixed to the pedestal, but it was not part of the original design, nor was the statue initially conceived as offering a welcome to immigrants (though I'm glad it did). The statue's real name is "Liberty Enlightening the World."

Here is the complete poem:

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"



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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/2/2007 8:01:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, and it was given to the US by the French.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/2/2007 8:20:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Short memory????? What have they done for us lately????  How can anyone do anything when the quest for oil, the control of it, and the absolute mega-profits it yeilds is the only focus which prevails in all situations. And...seems to be the primary, blinding driving force of the USofA.

What would you expect the French to do, lately, for the greatest power and the richest country in the world, with the most advanced armaments ever in the history of the planet? There is none greater than the USofA. Bush is the most powerful man the world has ever known (the Father that is, for the son is the mirror and puppet of the Father).

The French have their own problems to sort out.

Your response is rather simplistic, don't you agree.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/2/2007 7:53:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ferryman777
What would you expect the French to do,


Occasionally allow USA the use of their airspace for one.

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses."

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/2/2007 7:55:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Can you tell Me what the inscription on the Statue of Liberty says and how that came to be?


The inscription on the statue itself (i.e., on the tablet that Liberty is holding) says "JULY IV MDCCLXXVI," or "July 4, 1776."


Next tour being conducted by dcnovie will be in 45 minutes...

Please check your ticket stubs for appropriate lines...

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses."

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/2/2007 7:59:36 PM   
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I dont have an issue with the French.

The kindergarten idiocy of the current administration because a foreign government was unwilling to support their short-sighted and jingoistic war plans says a lot more about Monkeyboy et al than about the French.

I found the people to be a bit annoying when I spent time in France, but I was a loudmouthed 11 year old American who did not speak French, so I suppose they had every right to be annoying.

I love their forcing the retirement age to be 55.  Work you working years, retire and enjoy the money you earned, leave the jobs to the generations to follow.  I know any number of people in the United States, many rather wealthy, who still cling to their jobs as they approach 70 years old.  The only real reason, to my mind, is simple greed.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 4/2/2007 9:09:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		ROFLMAO    This thread has missed the point.  The point is that Lincoln got elected and it has been down hill ever since.   And that only Democrats are the good guys and their scandals don't count.   ROFLMAO

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