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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/24/2007 4:01:45 PM   
Unrepentant1


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Quite true, being sub one usually needs direction, and we also lack a little self esteem , so please do not be too judgemental, we blossom with the right care.

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/24/2007 4:08:15 PM   
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A couple of things that comes to mind from reading your very honest posts. One is that you are still emotionally invested in the alcoholic, and therefore nobody else can seem to get your interest because you aren't emotionally available to be interested in anyone else.

And second, the fact that he should be obedient and submit to teasing and then without being told to, he should somehow know that it's time to wrestle you and have sex. That's mind reading and I don't think it will work right off the bat. You may have to tell him what you are expecting sexually and give him a cue word to tell him when he can do it. After you develop a relationship then of course it is quite likely that he won't need the word but will be able to read you well enough to know when is the right time.

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/25/2007 9:43:39 AM   
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LadyEllen, just keep trying.  They're out there.

...And the hard ones are good to find, too!

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/25/2007 12:29:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: openmindedslave

In some ways  we find that we are almost willing to drop everything to meet. Sometimes, because we get so hammered on what we think is a fantasy  to be fullfilled we go  a little bit further with the promises that are made. And then something  happens...Call it reality..or maybe hes thinking ,"Wake up man..Are you really a slave ? Am I willing to live this life 24/7 ? Am I only here because shes with in an hours drive from home? " or I really can't see this being anything more than play time..no ltr" (You can fill in the blanks to why they can not go through with it)



I've run into this type here way toooooo many times. Its like the light bulb goes off in their heads. Its like they fantasize about it but when the reality of it sets in they just can't cope or even phathom the meeting. Go figure.

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/25/2007 10:44:18 PM   
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Good luck finding your needle in the haystack.



Saw something funny yesterday

The dating game is actually looking for hay in a needle stack.  You have to put up wth a lot of little pricks.

Finding a true gentleman with a good heart on a site like collarme is a really, really  long shot. 

But your chances of getting a kinky shag with a married guy in  a motel room are really, really good.  So it depends what you are looking for, right?

"Adult site" internet dating is - frankly - fishing in a sewer.  Just laugh at what you pull up or fish elsewhere

 


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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/25/2007 11:46:57 PM   
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You are just looking in the wrong places I guess.  I do, however, feel your pain because of all the fakes and losers, us real and sincere subs have trouble even talking to the dommes.  Anywho, good luck in your search.

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 12:07:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

Quite true, being sub one usually needs direction, and we also lack a little self esteem , so please do not be too judgemental, we blossom with the right care.


Is it really an issue of esteem? Or is it a simple matter of the submissive I'd like to meet hiding in a very thick forest, inside a rather large haystack within a labyrinth? Don't tell me he lacks self-confidence too.


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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 5:32:30 AM   
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Thanks to everyone for their interest and advice for dealing with Adrian - he's had so many mentions in the past from me on here that its pointless to hide his name really.

Adrian's problems go back to when he was 7, when his father upped and left his mom for another woman and he lost his only adequate male role model, being then brought up by his mom and his older sister and living in a down at heel housing estate which his parents had chosen because they were very much socialist in outlook, where the adult male role models were guys who drank to excess, were loud, aggressive and violent and it must be said, ignorant and ill educated.

From talking with Adrian, these are the roots of his issues. Being intelligent and academically gifted, like his mom and his sister, but surrounded by a world where such was not the aspiration of the men and their sons with whom he naturally associated, he had to fit in, developing thereby a front of being the macho male, whilst being in reality an insecure and sensitive little boy. This is where the drink came in, being an excellent means of suppressing his insecurities and preventing sensitivity from being displayed, whilst also strengthening the whole macho image in respect of his peers where the ability to drink the most is evidence of manliness and the tendency to become obnoxious and get into fights because of the drink is to be applauded by that standard. In better circumstances, it might have passed, except that as a young man located where he was, the young women by whom he was surrounded and who had also been brought up with a less than savoury ideal of manhood, flocked to him because he conformed to that ideal. He only ever lost girlfriends apparently, when he showed his sensitive side or demonstrated learning, reinforcing the idea that there was only one way to be a man, and generating the idea that his sensitivity and education were weaknesses forced on him by the women who brought him up and specifically the fear that he might be seen as gay (a huge social crime here still and especially in those days) and so the notion that he had to pile on the macho image even more and suppress further any evidence that he might be anything but.

Because of all this, he ended up following the career path of those boys with whom he had been brought up; he was expelled from college, ended up in front of the courts, was homeless for a long time and got into numerous fights and scrapes. He has never held a job for more than a week and not had a job now in twenty years and will never have one. His conditioning is such that speaking politely to a stranger is now largely beyond him - he has been expelled from AA countless times and been refused rehab several times because his reaction to anyone offering help is to associate it with femininity and an attempt to emasculate him. Stock response to such approaches is to say he isnt a girl, he isnt gay or to accuse those offering of being gay if theyre male.

All this. Except with me. Because he says, I am the only person he ever met with whom he can be sensitive, caring, polite and show his intelligence and learning without being accused of being gay for it, or feeling that he is in some way emasculated by doing so. I am the only person he is prepared to talk to about anything and all his life experiences and issues - he's been through the mental health system more than once and they know nothing about him because he wont talk to them. At his core, he's a really nice guy, caring and capable but the conditioning is so strong now after near on 30 years that he wont open up to anyone else - but then I get a lot of that from all sorts of people in crisis for some reason.

As for the whole sexuality thing, again his issues seem to be akin to the social ones. He loves women, absolutely, hopelessly and wonderfully. He has a sex drive like there's no tomorrow, despite the drinking, and isnt backwards in showing it either. To most of his girlfriends, he has always been this macho, sexually aggressive beast - which is in him, but isnt all of him, because thats what they expect of him. Only with me is he able to show the rest of him, where he worships the feminine and holds it in such high regard. I'd liken him to a trained beast in those situations - ever ready to spring on his prey, but held back by the trainer, except that the trainer often likes to be mauled!

Why he should be able to be this way with me is somewhat strange. OK, I'm the only person he can be himself with, but he also knows my background. Maybe that makes it somehow OK for him, in that I'm not a guy but neither am I a genetic female, so neither has to compete with me or for me in some way, so can do without the blustering macho front?

Anyway, thats the background for Adrian, though as I said earlier, right now and for the last month or so he's hooked up with a 21 year old heroin addict who is so starry eyed at him it makes me vomit LOL! But with her he can keep to the comfort zone to which he's accustomed I suppose, and not have to make the effort to resolve his issues as I'd like him to, for himself as much as anything else as he really could be someone in this world if only he could.

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 9:12:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsRose

quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

Quite true, being sub one usually needs direction, and we also lack a little self esteem , so please do not be too judgemental, we blossom with the right care.


Is it really an issue of esteem? Or is it a simple matter of the submissive I'd like to meet hiding in a very thick forest, inside a rather large haystack within a labyrinth? Don't tell me he lacks self-confidence too.



I think some subs are afraid to show their self-esteem and self-confidence around a domme.  They don't want to appear as too much of a male dom themselves.  Yet in my experience, many dommes are attracted exactly to this kind of sub, one who has confidence in his own abilities and isn't afraid to show it; one who realizes he has a lot to offer a Mistress.  Otherwise, why would she want him to begin with?
 
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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 9:40:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeniluscious

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Now TGD - I'm not including you in those descriptions OK? (well apart from the halfway round the world thing maybe). I didnt mention the exception to the rule for fear of embarassing you.


He's lucky he has you to speak up; there's nothing in the profile to indicate anything of interest. 

Well, maybe location, but damn, wrong Champagne. 



This might personally bother me if I was so shallow that I'd hope that everyone would love me.  I guess the question is - what would provoke you to say something like this when you don't even know the person?

Maybe she likes me because I make her laugh, or I'm an object of pity - maybe her standards have slipped a bit as of late, or maybe there's been several months of bantering that she actually likes me ,,, snicker; damn, almost said that with a straight face.  It's certainly not because I'm packing major sausage or I can lick my own eyebrows - stubby with no talent doesn't make 'em line up in anticipation :-D

Well, I did update my profile, but judging from yours, I still don't think I'd personally be anything of interest to you.  (FYI - there's nothing wrong with your profile, some good points actually, but I don't see much compatibility - I'm going to assume this won't cause you any sleepless nights either ;-)

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 10:01:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Is it just me, I'm wondering, or is it a general thing?

I mean, I get anything from zero to ten mails a day from guys, plus a similar number of guys viewing my profile. They're all either nutters, looking for a mom, well beyond any sensible limit of depravity or living on the other side of the world.

There's been a few meets too though, that came out of the horde. Promising up to that point, they then turn out to fall into what one might impolitely call, losers.

From what I read here, such is the general lot - but I'm wondering.

Are the majority of guys really like this, or is it some sort of front, that's perceived to be how they ought to be, that would place them in one of a few categories?

"I'm pathetic, please pity me (mommy)"
"I'm a bit weird (honest) because I dont want to seem boring"
"I've done it all (well, actually not) so my tastes are now extreme"

E


I never really have any trouble finding a "good " man.  It's not my appearance either.. it's my personality.  It seems that the cads actually feel guilty and back off on their own.  I'm very a open  and direct person.. I don't play games and in return, I think the guys appreciate it.
 
I also have the wonderful desire to look at the 'core person'.  I see no distinction between prince and pauper, king or beggar.. Dom or dog-turd LOL
 
(sorry.. I got caught in the alliteration! You know I love you guys :) 

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 12:53:15 PM   
Unrepentant1


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ORIGINAL: MsRose

quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

Quite true, being sub one usually needs direction, and we also lack a little self esteem , so please do not be too judgemental, we blossom with the right care.


Is it really an issue of esteem? Or is it a simple matter of the submissive I'd like to meet hiding in a very thick forest, inside a rather large haystack within a labyrinth? Don't tell me he lacks self-confidence too.




Well we may need the love and security of a good Domme, but I know I am well worth the effort, you will get back 10 times what you put in!

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 1:47:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsRose

quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

Quite true, being sub one usually needs direction, and we also lack a little self esteem , so please do not be too judgemental, we blossom with the right care.


Is it really an issue of esteem? Or is it a simple matter of the submissive I'd like to meet hiding in a very thick forest, inside a rather large haystack within a labyrinth? Don't tell me he lacks self-confidence too.




Well we may need the love and security of a good Domme, but I know I am well worth the effort, you will get back 10 times what you put in!


Nice mentality.

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 2:09:42 PM   
Unrepentant1


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ORIGINAL: MistressDolly

quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

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ORIGINAL: MsRose

quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

Quite true, being sub one usually needs direction, and we also lack a little self esteem , so please do not be too judgemental, we blossom with the right care.


Is it really an issue of esteem? Or is it a simple matter of the submissive I'd like to meet hiding in a very thick forest, inside a rather large haystack within a labyrinth? Don't tell me he lacks self-confidence too.




Well we may need the love and security of a good Domme, but I know I am well worth the effort, you will get back 10 times what you put in!


Nice mentality.



Thank you.

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 3:24:34 PM   
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You said it well, openmindedslave.
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Let me share  some thoughts here. I find that there are times when a man talks to a Mistress that  they are honestly intrigued by them. That in fact guys  can get  excited and arroused by getting  emails from someone they seem to connect with.Not so much , the sexual aspects , but sometimes a form of realizing  someone actually  is out there who gets them. In some ways  we find that we are almost willing to drop everything to meet. Sometimes, because we get so hammered on what we think is a fantasy  to be fullfilled we go  a little bit further with the promises that are made. And then something  happens...Call it reality..or maybe hes thinking ,"Wake up man..Are you really a slave ? Am I willing to live this life 24/7 ? Am I only here because shes with in an hours drive from home? " or I really can't see this being anything more than play time..no ltr" (You can fill in the blanks to why they can not go through with it) Yes there are the ones you might be so strange that you don't ever want to take them back to your place. There are the players and liers. The married guys . The guys  you clearly don't want that you talk about in your profile but try to hide it. I think the problem is that many guys just don't think it through.The excitement of meeting or being apart of what they can't get on their own ,is so controlling that they don't realize what they are doing to a Mistress. This is no excuse mind you , its just they're not thinking about anyone but them selves.  Is it selfish for  some guys to take up your time and lie about their interest...Hell Yes. But what is their cost to them selves...Well, very little. The question about is a good man hard to find? Yes it is .And a good Mistress is hard also to find. And a good friend who accept you for who you are inside. But when you find them...well, doesn't it make all of this worth while?

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 4:12:38 PM   
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I don't think it's as simple as a good man is hard to find. A good woman can be hard to find too.
There are some people out here on collarme and other similar sites who truely are seeking a genuine and honest D/s relationship; whether she is domme and he is sub or he is dom and she is sub. Unfortunately these are a select few overshadowed by the numerous numbers of people out there who instead of looking for a partner... they are looking for a quick buck or a quick f***.
I have talked to a fair number of people and one thing I find is that most people are just not honest with themselves. This is why so many "run" instead of making that meet.
I finally realized this myself about two years ago. That's when i became honest withmyself... i accepted who i was and am happy with who i am.
All people here on this site need to look into themself and and be honest with themselves as to who they are and who they want to be.

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 6:26:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Thanks Susan

Problem we have with rehab here, is that there just arent the facilities unless one can pay thousands per week for a private clinic. The health service has something ridiculous like a hundred beds for the country for rehab, which with so much demand is simply not enough unless you wait on a list for a few years.

He's detoxed several times now, and its risky what with convulsions and fits and all that. His mom has to come and stay with him at those times just in case as there's really no one else who can spend the time, it being 24/7 for a week or so.

In the end though, the impression I get (and I'm not a therapist or anything) is that until he deals with what happened when he was 7 and everything that developed after that, he could have rehab every month and he'd still go back to it. Then the problem becomes, that he wont talk to anyone who might know what theyre doing to help him deal with it all, as he only talks to me about this stuff for some reason.

E

Sounds stupid and cliché but you can’t help anyone till they want to help themselves. I have been through this sort of thing a lot in the last decade.  I have seen some great talented people super nova . you have to remember you can only do so much for them they need to want peace  

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/26/2007 7:26:10 PM   
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well I got a question? What do you consider good !

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RE: a good man really is hard to find - 3/27/2007 2:56:16 PM   
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Lady Ellen
 
As with any personals site, for those of any persuasion, there will be a disproportionate number of less desireable people in the user base.
 
That doesn't necessarily mean that they are bad people; it could be distance, lack of experience or rather esoteric interests that put others off them.  Of course, there will be a number of nutters and they may be the most prolific emailers.
 
Having said that, there are also a great number of quality people here.  However, they are also the ones most likely to read a profile and say, "I just don't seem to be what she's looking for," and never make contact.
 
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