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Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/9/2005 9:06:22 PM

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There is nothing that turns me on more than when a man submits to something he absolutely hates, but does it because his desire to please is so high. Usually it's in the middle or at the end of a mind-blowing, intense scene where he is so turned on and I am so wet that he just wants to do anything at all.

Subs, how do you feel about these types of situations? Have you found that there are some things you can barely bring yourself to do and they are horrible and degrading, then later when you think back about it, you are so completely turned on you want to do it again?

Does your arousal make you do things you never thought you would, or is it your partner's arousal that pushes you to that point?

Are there some things you could do only if totally turned on, but in a normal state of mind there is no way in hell you'd do it?

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/9/2005 11:34:39 PM

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For me it's a lot like those chicks who are bisexual only when they get drunk. Being turned on is a high and something of an altered state as well. So if someone only does things when they are really turned on, they should probably see what is blocking them from enjoying it regularly, what values they associate with it.

Granted, lots of subs need this, they need to feel "forced" into it, or that they have no choice in a sense and are "made" to do it so as to relinquish responsibility and be able to relax into it. I don't have this.

And I am just too honest and aware of myself to do things in an altered state but not a regular one. If I do it then I do it.

However, on the love/hate things, humiliation is absolutely one. This is why my quote on my profile says that humiliation is a burning- I absolutely hate it and absolutely love it. It's maddening.

But I accept that its maddening.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/10/2005 11:25:27 AM

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Subs, how do you feel about these types of situations? Have you found that there are some things you can barely bring yourself to do and they are horrible and degrading, then later when you think back about it, you are so completely turned on you want to do it again?

Yes, yes, yes! i love that my Master pisses on me, it is so wonderfully, horribly degrading... but i hate it while it is going on, i hate it when it comes up in discussion with lifestyle friends and He says we do it....

But, i love being sooooo degraded like that. Hmmm....

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/10/2005 12:46:13 PM

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What turns me on the most is knowing that Master is turned on. It doesn't really matter what it is he wants me to do, insists that i do... its not the act itself that's of any importance to me... its that he gets off on getting me to do it. I'm turned on by his being happy and turned on.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/10/2005 5:00:36 PM

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Being spat on, having my face repeatedly slapped.

They take me into an emotional space where I just want to crawl under her shoe and hide. When she treats me as if I am contemptible and worthless (not that I really think I am) it makes me both want to run away and worship her so deeply I want to just cry with joy.

We’re too new a couple of have explored this in any depth. But I hope she will continue to teach me to find ecstasy in experiences that I despise.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/10/2005 10:58:32 PM

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I despise pain. There is not a masochistic bone in my body. Yet pain puts me in such a great headspace for serving. It really helps me submit even though I absolutely abhor it.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/11/2005 5:05:57 PM

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Objectification... I hate the idea of being used as nothing more than an object or toy, but I love the way it makes me feel afterwards - very submissive, very "put in my place".

(quickly hides this thread from her Master.. Don't need him knowing I like it!)

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/11/2005 8:50:12 PM

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i personally believe that being in the subspace is what allows a submissive to do things they wouldnt normally do. and being in the subspace is a combination of being aroused yourself and wanting to please your Dom/me. thats my opinion.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/12/2005 12:08:35 AM

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Mistress has told me about her desire to see me perform with another man.

At first I was just like "well if you want me to but i'm not really into that"

But now its like sooooo far out there, that its total surrender and obedience doing something that i'd never do turns me on, and I'm almost really looking foreward to it.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/12/2005 6:23:51 AM

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Nice, try minx! But I found it....hah! I wasn't born yesterday, you know....

Bob

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/13/2005 10:54:54 AM

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Anthin my Master wants me to do i will do. If i turn him on that it waht turns me on big time> My Master know my hard limits and does not croos them but he always tests my soft limits and i love the. I don't need to fell forced to get turned on if my Master is pleased and turned on that is what gets me going.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/14/2005 6:11:53 PM

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*laughs* try hiding it from him, littleone... thats a sure way to get any Master to notice anything, make a big deal of shoving it down outta sight!!

It is all much the same for me... I really am happiest making him happy, and if I know what I'm doing makes him hot, thats such an amazing feeling, I'll gladly continue! I get a lot of satisfaction out of seeing that he's well pleased...

*hides this too... to ensure he finds it*

Minx

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/14/2005 8:41:33 PM

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Hah! Found this one too! Hah!!

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*laughs* try hiding it from him, littleone... thats a sure way to get any Master to notice anything, make a big deal of shoving it down outta sight!!

It is all much the same for me... I really am happiest making him happy, and if I know what I'm doing makes him hot, thats such an amazing feeling, I'll gladly continue! I get a lot of satisfaction out of seeing that he's well pleased...

*hides this too... to ensure he finds it*

Minx

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/15/2005 5:14:03 PM

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So there are a couple of things I've done that resonate with this.

There are times I've taken pain that just wasn't good. No amount of crying, thrashing, endorphins, or comforting was going to get me to enjoy that even a little. Sometimes I've taken it because I had to (clothespins coming off, needles coming out), and sometimes because they really wanted it. This isn't quite the same, I think, as what you mean... this is pain, which I like, just at a level I can't enjoy. But it's maybe similar.

And then there are things that I can be put in a state where I like them, but thinking about them out of that state is uncomfortable. But note the word: uncomfortable. I don't hate them. Again, maybe similar, but certainly not the same.

So, ah, there's my two cents. For whatever it is worth.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/17/2005 7:02:42 AM

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There is nothing that turns me on more than when a man submits to something he absolutely hates, but does it because his desire to please is so high. Usually it's in the middle or at the end of a mind-blowing, intense scene where he is so turned on and I am so wet that he just wants to do anything at all.

Isn't this something that all of us subs are seeking, a Dominant who has the talent to take us to this sub space where we can finally be proud of our submission and give up completely. It isn't just the Dominant who is thrilled at this time, this is what our memories keep, what we always seek and hope to find often.

Are there some things you could do only if totally turned on, but in a normal state of mind there is no way in hell you'd do it?

There are so many things, but that damn whartenburg wheel is stuck in my head for some reason.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/18/2005 7:36:46 AM

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I don't like pain, but I so love being tied up and spanked and teased and all manner of other things until I'm no more than a whimpering, shaking ball of nerves. There are things I used to say I would never do that now I still say I wouldn't like but deep down a little part of me says I would.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/21/2005 12:16:21 PM

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i have to tread very lightly on this topic because it reminds me of one of my challenges: anger
sometimes in D/s relationships ive been so hurt, so angry, that when im enduring a particularly rough session i find myself suddenly mad-- and then im mad at myself for this emotion... i turn on mysef in so many ways...
this hasn't happened in a long time, thank goodness, but what are your thoughts on this?
have you ever gotten mad at yourself or heaven forbid, giggles, mad at Him/Her during punishment and bit your tongue through the whole thing? im sure you have...what did you do? have you mentally martyr-ed yourself in love?

when we speak of hate, feelings of hatred, we're just speaking of fear right? ive found reason to fear my owners in the past (emotional always, not physical) and i must say it is one of those rushes that i have to stay away from. i fear being mistreated, using our lifestyle to excuse a need for unhealthy treatment of another humanbeing.
i have a love/hate relationship with just that- fear.
i want to feel it, but i don't want to serve someone that i have to fear...
big sigh...so hard to explain...

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/21/2005 3:09:37 PM

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On this topic, I can't say there are things I love but hate.. or hate but love.. But there are things that I hate and I hate them because they hurt.. not necessarily on the outside (though some do that as well) but because they hurt me on the inside in a bad bad way.

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i have to tread very lightly on this topic because it reminds me of one of my challenges: anger
sometimes in D/s relationships ive been so hurt, so angry, that when im enduring a particularly rough session i find myself suddenly mad-- and then im mad at myself for this emotion... i turn on mysef in so many ways...
this hasn't happened in a long time, thank goodness, but what are your thoughts on this?
have you ever gotten mad at yourself or heaven forbid, giggles, mad at Him/Her during punishment and bit your tongue through the whole thing? im sure you have...what did you do? have you mentally martyr-ed yourself in love? ...

I totally did that ONCE. Just once.. ate me up so bad I had to tell Mark about it.. Told him the next day as it took me a while to put all that emotion into words he'd be able to understand. That those thoughts were going on in me and I didn't tell him, really hurt us bad. I never did it again. I always "yellowed" and explained there after. But it took Mark quite awhile to trust himself in it and to trust me to effectively communicate.

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/21/2005 3:29:16 PM

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AAkasha,

You've hit the nail right on the head for me...on my profile i've listed some things that i've never done...that are repulsive in some ways to me, such as forced bisexuality and scat...but the sheer humiliation aspect of it makes it a turnon...as sex with men and being shit upon are not in my nature...in fact, the more it rubs against my grain, the more i'll look back on it with a huge smile on my face...as it's hardly submission if it's something i want to do.

Just my two cents.

sting

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RE: Do you have a love/hate view of some of the acts? - 4/21/2005 9:49:06 PM

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As I was reading this post, I couldn't really remember what to reply...but I knew it was somewhere in my lazy brain.....

Finally it has appeared. I just came up with one love/hate situation: CRYING!!!. I absolutely hate it. My face suffers terrible changes, and the extreme quantity of fluids doesn't let me breath. It puts me pretty easily in my place. I'm not the tough person I was. Instead, I transform into this softy tamed little thingy.

But that's the beauty of the whole thing...and that's why I love it.

The inhibitions disappear.

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