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subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 6:30:39 AM

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I've been looking through the profiles, and I have found that there are ALOT of subs who not only don't know their place, but think that it's ok for them to be openly hostile. I've decided to put this up as a Dom who is thinking about you subs and don't want to see you get yourself into trouble.
Listen, Doms and Dommes alike have earned the title of Sir, usually through intensive training and study. You'll find that a Dom who hasn't will be looked down upon and you will be shown that he is not worthy even of the title Dom. For that reason, upon first speaking to ANY Dom, call them "Sir" or "Madam". This is not something beneath you. You're a sub! You're supposed to enjoy service and humility.
I heard one sub say "I will not be a doormat!". Well, believe it or not, that's sort of stupid. Thats like saying, "I love sunny days, so I better hide from the sun under this rock". What is the problem with people like this? They aren't subs! They are just girls who want a real man. There's no problem with that, but at least let us know what you REALLY want by not calling yourself a slave. Most of the girls like this I've seen quallify only as a "Switch".
Any other Masters who want to comment or expand feel free.

RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 6:39:46 AM

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quote:

I've been looking through the profiles, and I have found that there are ALOT of subs who not only don't know their place, but think that it's ok for them to be openly hostile. I've decided to put this up as a Dom who is thinking about you subs and don't want to see you get yourself into trouble.

How are they going to get into "trouble"? If anything a bad negative attitude would keep all doms away. I wonder what you mean by that phrase.

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Listen, Doms and Dommes alike have earned the title of Sir, usually through intensive training and study. You'll find that a Dom who hasn't will be looked down upon and you will be shown that he is not worthy even of the title Dom. For that reason, upon first speaking to ANY Dom, call them "Sir" or "Madam". This is not something beneath you. You're a sub! You're supposed to enjoy service and humility.

OMG this is freaking hilarious.. are you posting this for comedic relief around here? What about those of us with dominants that do not want us to refer to other doms as anything but their first name? I do enjoy service, but my Daddy does not want me humble necessarily, and what is it to you, I do not serve anyone but him.

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I heard one sub say "I will not be a doormat!". Well, believe it or not, that's sort of stupid. Thats like saying, "I love sunny days, so I better hide from the sun under this rock". What is the problem with people like this? They aren't subs! They are just girls who want a real man. There's no problem with that, but at least let us know what you REALLY want by not calling yourself a slave. Most of the girls like this I've seen quallify only as a "Switch".
Any other Masters who want to comment or expand feel free.

I wonder, how is this attitude working for you in the real world... you know, offline at munches and events? And even though you directed only dominant sorts to answer, I am thinking that this is an open forum for everyone to contribute to, and if you do not like that perhaps you should email the lifestyle people that started this site. It is also amusing that you insulted people, spoke directly to them (meaning submissives) and then more or less state their feedback will not be welcome. I am soooooo glad I have my Daddy.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 6:40:55 AM

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I'm sorry, I'm laughing about this paragraph.

Earned the title? No! Most people just give themselves titles and even among those still going an "old guard" route of earning them only earned them within their club or organization. Any recognitizion outside of that group or relationship is purely polite.

As for subs' place? That depends on the person they are submissive to. Most people are not submissive or dominant 100% of the time. They find a good connection (hopefully) and then they work out the details of how they will interact through trial and error or negotiation.

Hey, if you don't like the "attitude" you see in some profiles just consider that a nice piece of information about that person that makes it easier for you to skip over them and not waste your time. Why invest your emotional energy in people who aren't what you are looking for?

You can spend a lifetime trying to convince others to act or think like you but do you really want to do that when there are so many other, better things you could do with your time?

Of course I'm also probably wasting my time posting this but I'm killing time before I head into a meeting.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 6:41:53 AM

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isten, Doms and Dommes alike have earned the title of Sir, usually through intensive training and study.

Really?

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upon first speaking to ANY Dom, call them "Sir" or "Madam".

No thank you.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 6:42:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

I've been looking through the profiles, and I have found that there are ALOT of subs who not only don't know their place, but think that it's ok for them to be openly hostile. I've decided to put this up as a Dom who is thinking about you subs and don't want to see you get yourself into trouble.
Listen, Doms and Dommes alike have earned the title of Sir, usually through intensive training and study. You'll find that a Dom who hasn't will be looked down upon and you will be shown that he is not worthy even of the title Dom. For that reason, upon first speaking to ANY Dom, call them "Sir" or "Madam". This is not something beneath you. You're a sub! You're supposed to enjoy service and humility.
I heard one sub say "I will not be a doormat!". Well, believe it or not, that's sort of stupid. Thats like saying, "I love sunny days, so I better hide from the sun under this rock". What is the problem with people like this? They aren't subs! They are just girls who want a real man. There's no problem with that, but at least let us know what you REALLY want by not calling yourself a slave. Most of the girls like this I've seen quallify only as a "Switch".
Any other Masters who want to comment or expand feel free.

Any person setting up a profile on Collarme can call themselves Dom, Domme, Master, Sir or whatever they like but that does not necessarily make them one. I am probably all the things you disagree with here. I am not nor will I ever be a doormat. I am a strong independent person who CHOOSES to submit to my Master. He has never wanted a doormat and is more than happy with the way I am. I call myself a slave because that is what both my Master and I are happy with.

The only person I call Master or Sir is MY Master. I do not owe you anything just because YOU decide you are a Master or Dom or whatever you decide you are. Respect has to be earned and you have certainly not earned mine by this rant.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 6:51:29 AM

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I really doubt this is a serious post but..

You have to get a grip, pal.

You are a dominant and you feel you are entitled to something beyond your own consciousness... why?

You took time to learn what?... a bunch of whip maneuvers and some knife skills, maybe you are the Fastest Paddler in the West?

I am sorry, but that in my opinion does not earn you anything but maybe a 'best in class' certificate from your local munch group.

Titles are reserved for three sets of people, those who live in a society where they subscribe to titled nobility by birth (or purchase, in some cases) (which we here in the US do not), those who have earned some sort of great reverence and respect of another by the responses they have generated in that person, and those with whom you have entered into a consensual relationship to whom you have given over the right of making that decision for yourself.

Strangers do not owe strangers anything, beyond an obeisance to the laws mutual conduct as dictated by the land in which they live. Anything else is negotiable.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 6:52:20 AM

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you have yet to earn the respect and right from me to address you as Sir, Master and/or Madam and never will. the ONLY person whom i trust and deserves my respect to be called Sir and Master is my Daddy, bigsambaman. with your ignorant attitude, you've failed to realize we aren't submissives/slaves to every Dom/me here.

< Message edited by sambamanslilgirl -- 3/26/2007 6:53:05 AM >

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 6:57:32 AM

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You EARN a degree at a chosen university to become a Doctor, or whatnot. Calling oneself Dom or sub is just that :"Self defining".

Want to go things the way you describe??? Ok, commit a felony guaranteed to get some serious prison time. Walk in the prison as arrogant as you possibly can proclaiming to the entire prison population "I AM DOM!! BOW BEFORE ME AS I ENTER!!". And convince yourself the entire night how DOMINATING you are as your ass is turned upside down and every inmate that wants a piece of your DOMINANT ass is slamming their submissive d---ks up in you. Then the next morning as your DOMINANT ass is about to get it again, make damn sure to remind the inmate population just how much you enjoyed DOMINATING them all night long. Serve your time and come back and talk to the forum about that earned Dom title you think you earned, thank you.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:00:57 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

I've been looking through the profiles, and I have found that there are ALOT of subs who not only don't know their place, but think that it's ok for them to be openly hostile. I've decided to put this up as a Dom who is thinking about you subs and don't want to see you get yourself into trouble.
Listen, Doms and Dommes alike have earned the title of Sir, usually through intensive training and study. You'll find that a Dom who hasn't will be looked down upon and you will be shown that he is not worthy even of the title Dom. For that reason, upon first speaking to ANY Dom, call them "Sir" or "Madam". This is not something beneath you. You're a sub! You're supposed to enjoy service and humility.
I heard one sub say "I will not be a doormat!". Well, believe it or not, that's sort of stupid. Thats like saying, "I love sunny days, so I better hide from the sun under this rock". What is the problem with people like this? They aren't subs! They are just girls who want a real man. There's no problem with that, but at least let us know what you REALLY want by not calling yourself a slave. Most of the girls like this I've seen quallify only as a "Switch".
Any other Masters who want to comment or expand feel free.

This is going to be good. *chuckles*

You may train your girls to kowtow to every idiot who feels like slapping master or dominant in front of his or her name, but not everyone does. I'm respectful, but I'm not calling you master. You aren't my master and if you call me sub I won't respond. I have a name and it's Aqua. Now you call me unsubbly all you want. This is the way my Sir wants me and believe it or not.... I'm far more concerned with his wants then yours.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:03:13 AM

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OMG this is freaking hilarious.. are you posting this for comedic relief around here? What about those of us with dominants that do not want us to refer to other doms as anything but their first name? I do enjoy service, but my Daddy does not want me humble necessarily, and what is it to you, I do not serve anyone but him.

Don't you know! They aren't really dominants. We should leave them right away and go serve some horny net geek who just stuck the title master in front of his name so he has a better shot of getting a girl to take off her clothes.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:08:33 AM

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This HAS to be a joke. If not, you poor deluded man. Go get a clue...no wait, go get several.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:09:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

Listen, Doms and Dommes alike have earned the title of Sir, usually through intensive training and study.

May I see your certificate of completion?

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For that reason, upon first speaking to ANY Dom, call them "Sir" or "Madam". This is not something beneath you. You're a sub! You're supposed to enjoy service and humility.

What makes you think it's appropriate to give directions to submissives that don't belong to you?

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They aren't subs! They are just girls who want a real man. There's no problem with that, but at least let us know what you REALLY want by not calling yourself a slave.

Correction, they're not YOUR sub.

Here's the reality.....you've never met these people face to face.....you have never seen how they interact in with the people in their lives......so you have no freakin' clue whether they are or are not. Just like we don't know if you're really a Dom or some 12 year old boy on Mommy's computer wanking off.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:10:40 AM

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Hehe... this is going to devolve into a clusterfuck of magnificent proportions! Where's the popcorn??

Sadly, he will probably not post again to this thread.. well... at least I have popcorn...

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:12:00 AM

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unfortunitly with the advent of the internet it is increasingly difficult for subs and other Dominants to guage a person charactor simply by speaking to the,m . you can judge a persons *seriousness* in the lifestyle much more quickly in a real world situation than you can online . this may partially be because of our parinoia reguarding the net and how easy it is to pretend to be something your not . so rather than deal with this issue plus the above mentioned * stuck the word master in front of their name and expected to be bowed down to * syndrome we see occasionally . i supose the agressive hostile or self preserving attitude of many subs and slaves is entirely nessicary . my advice . let them get to know you and you know them . you`ll find the walls ease off as they learn who and what you are . however your comment about the questionable submissiveness of those who * will not be a doormat * raises some serious questions in My mind . why would you require that a submissive accepts the doormat treatment . in my experience a sub who is treated well by a confident and attentive dominant can be far more pleasing than one who is ground into submission through pure abuse . abuse in that sense is not what BDSM is about . this lifestyle is about people seeking soull enrichment not soul destruction

Darias/Eoin

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:12:27 AM

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sidenote: don't expect to equate your 4yrs of expeience as the right to earn respect from anyone, Dom/mes included, because of your "title". you have much to learn, young man.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:12:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: puella

Hehe... this is going to devolve into a clusterfuck of magnificent proportions! Where's the popcorn??

Sadly, he will probably not post again to this thread.. well... at least I have popcorn...

Nope. He was here for a while but seems he has cut and run. Bless and he is all of 20 odd too.

Can you make it toffee popcorn please as I have a sudden craving for some.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:15:40 AM

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23 years old, been in the LS for 4 years, and surprise surprise you are looking for a third.

you are a living cliché, but your chest pounding is adorable, and the sound spanking you are going to get on here can either push you in one of two directions:

one you can slink off mumbling how none of us are "real" "true" Bdsmers

or two you can realize you dont know everything, but that there are some great folks in here you could listen and learn from, and with time you will see that you assertions are fairly typical of folks new the the lifestyle and yet no one will hold that against you, we all have made mistakes, and that you can still be a contributing member to the board, and to the community as a whole as you learn and grow into your leather boots.

welcome to the forums.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:18:14 AM

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Aslanemperor,

What you have written is M/s as you now understand it. Frankly, it comes across to me as the opinion of someone who has not yet experienced a flesh and blood M/s releationship and that is OK. We all started at the beginning. I am willing to bet that if you continue your journey, learn and grow, you will one day look back on your post and cringe.

I am a slave. I am a slave because I have chosen to submit to a man who has chosen to accept that submission and offer his dominance in return. I have certain rules that I live by because it makes both my owner and I happy. Does he have rules he lives by in order to make this relationship work? You bet your bippy he does. It is about working together, constant communication in which i have a voice and use it, learning from eachother and growing. Me being a slave has absolutely nothing to do with how I interact with people online or face to face.

You, my friend, do not need to be validated by anyone except that person you choose to dominate and accepts your dominance. You do not need to be a bully and demand submission and respect. Live with integrity and chances are you will show you are respectable, it's the best you can do. You will learn more in time : )

Sincerely,
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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:19:33 AM

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surprise surprise you are looking for a third.

I read his profile. He appears to be looking for a 2nd who will be jealous of his 1st. He wants her to be jealous. Good luck in poly land. Considering that he went through intensive training and study to be a Master, he'll do fine. hehe

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 7:20:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: susie

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ORIGINAL: puella

Hehe... this is going to devolve into a clusterfuck of magnificent proportions! Where's the popcorn??

Sadly, he will probably not post again to this thread.. well... at least I have popcorn...

Nope. He was here for a while but seems he has cut and run. Bless and he is all of 20 odd too.

Can you make it toffee popcorn please as I have a sudden craving for some.

Ahh... oh well. What's a grand Mastah to do when he just got schooled by a bunch of lowly subs and slaves?

PS. I do hope you return OP. You may be a master but you still have a lot to learn and, despite what some doms seem to think, you can learn a deal from us...

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