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MzBerlin -> RE: Do you really care? (4/15/2005 1:57:05 AM)

stormsfate-
I'm sorry. I posted to another member before answering the OP. Please forgive me.

Personally, when someone calls themselves "real" or "true" I think it's silly. I also think that miscapitalized (sp) pronouns are silly.

When I see either of these is personal notes to me or on the forum boards I tend to take that person a little less seriously simply because of their inability to get over themselves. Same thing with guys who post thier cock size on their profile.

[:'(] UGGGH!!!

Berlin




stormsfate -> RE: Do you really care? (4/15/2005 5:19:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: domtimothy46176

I ~am~ an elitist and I don't make any apology for it. My girl and I ~do~ look at folks and make a determination about whether or not they're real according to ~our~ standards. The way some folks do things is not compatable with our standards. I expect that a lot of folks feel that way about how ~we~ do things, too.


Ahhh, yes...but we have had this conversation before, Timothy. I can see neither of us have changed our positions...lol. As I recall, you were in favor of the "community" shunning people who had certain behaviors. That wasn't really what I was referring to here, but I suppose it could tie in.




slavedesires -> RE: Do you really care? (4/16/2005 12:22:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: stormsfate

This is one of those things that make me go hmmmm. I could care less who here considers me real or who thinks I'm some balding, toothless hag who has no life and wouldn't know that canes aren't just for walking. Do I care if you care? Nope...but I'm curious....so do you care and if so, why?


best regards,
fate




hmmmmmmmmmmm

nope dont care.

cuz until someone takes the time to know me or i know them, they are only anonymous anyway.

[:)]




Manawyddan -> RE: Do you really care? (4/16/2005 6:45:19 AM)

I met a woman who said she didn't believe I was a dom, but kept insisting I was a sub. My response was to laugh, metaphorically pat her on the head, and tell her she was free to enjoy whatever meaningless fantasies about me she wished.




domtimothy46176 -> RE: Do you really care? (4/16/2005 11:14:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MzBerlin

quote:

ORIGINAL: domtimothy46176

I ~am~ an elitist and I don't make any apology for it. My girl and I ~do~ look at folks and make a determination about whether or not they're real according to ~our~ standards. The way some folks do things is not compatable with our standards. I expect that a lot of folks feel that way about how ~we~ do things, too.
As a general rule, I don't pay too much attention to the profiles that talk about wanting a "real, true" whatever. The word simply has no meaning outside of personal or, at least, shared context. I figure some use it out of ignorance. Others may well feel theirs to be the only valid way of doing things. More power to them, if that's what works for them.
Is it silly? It is, especially in a profile. In a conversation with someone who knows, understands and agrees with your standards, not nearly so much. My real is my girl's real and it's also real as defined by a few others I know. In our conversations we may use the world freely without disagreement but I would not attempt to use it when conversing with others without knowing we shared definitions. IMO, that's simply pointless.
Timothy



Timothy-
I'm really confused by the first part of your post. You state that you're an "elitist" and that you don't make apologies for it. I'm not sure if I grasp that. Is your brand of BDSM somehow "realer" than someone else who doesn't live up to your "standard'? I don't really get that. It's like challenging someones' BDSM-ness (which was a wonderful thread a while back.) I'm just curious what your standards for "realness" is. Please elaborate.

Also, you state in your first paragraph that you DO make a judgement call about someones "realness" based on YOUR standards, then go on to say that it's "silly" for people to feel that there's one true way, THEN go on to state that real is defined by YOUR (and your friends who "knows, understand and agree with " your standards.) By that logic, if I do not understand, agree with or know your standard of BDSM, then I am not REAL.

I think THAT is silly.

As Always
B


I think perhaps I understand where you got lost. My opinion is that we ~each~ define "real" as it pertains to ourselves. My "real" reflects my minimum baseline level of behavior within the sphere of my personal interactions with others within the context of WIITWD. Likewise I expect most, if not all, also have certain criteria that must be met before they consider someone "real" as opposed to a player, a wannabe, a HNG, etc.
Perhaps that clears it up.
Timothy




domtimothy46176 -> RE: Do you really care? (4/16/2005 11:25:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stormsfate


quote:

ORIGINAL: domtimothy46176

I ~am~ an elitist and I don't make any apology for it. My girl and I ~do~ look at folks and make a determination about whether or not they're real according to ~our~ standards. The way some folks do things is not compatable with our standards. I expect that a lot of folks feel that way about how ~we~ do things, too.


Ahhh, yes...but we have had this conversation before, Timothy. I can see neither of us have changed our positions...lol. As I recall, you were in favor of the "community" shunning people who had certain behaviors. That wasn't really what I was referring to here, but I suppose it could tie in.


Actually, the longer I've discussed the idea of community and peripheral issues, the more I've come to understand that community, as I understand it, doesn't truly exist much beyond the scope of my own personal interactions. I've found that the larger issues of tolerating harmful behaviors are best dealt with on a personal level. Those who practice tolerant inaction in the face of dishonorable or unethical behaviors have made an affirmative choice in support of those behaviors and are welcome to the 'Community' of their own making.




LuvSponge -> RE: Do you really care? (4/17/2005 5:05:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: stormsfate

Do the people who are fond of using words like "real" or "true" realize how many people who might otherwise find them intelligent and interesting are suddenly so turned off they tune out?....so anything that even comes close to smacking of that or elitism makes me run away fast


Well said Storm. Can't agree more.

As soon as I see that, I immediately run, assuming I'll be dealing with someone who has a protagonists view of damn near everything that might come out of my mouth.

Life's too fucking short to have to listen to someone moan and blather why you don't qualify as "real" simply because you utter a code word that sets them off, or respond in absolute fealty at the exact defined moment.




Masterspetal -> RE: Do you really care? (4/17/2005 5:12:00 AM)

i can agree with the fact that it gets annoying to see "I'm a REAL Dom/mes" or "i'm a REAL sub/slave", it is a matter of taking the time to get to know that individual and then making a decision. But to answer your question as to whether or not i care what others think of me. yes and no. i don't have listed that i am "REAL", but i care because i want to get across that i am a human being, not a doormat. That just because i am my Master's slave, that i still have intelligence, and can communicate with that intelligence. No because i know who i am, i am extremely comfortable with myself, and Master loves me for me.

JMHO

Master's petal




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