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Working with rubber - 3/31/2007 9:49:28 PM   
torontonovice


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Status: offline 		This post is in reply to an earlier post of mine asking about the feasibility of rubber-coating nylon webbing.  The consensus seemed to be that coating would be unfeasible, that using just plain rubber would be the best course of action.  The problem is that I have no experience working with rubber, beyond repairing bicycle inner tubes with rubber cement.  I've tried the library as a resource, however although there seems to be plenty of material on engineering and manufacturing rubber, at first glance there didn't seem to be anything on working with rubber.  What I'm looking to find out:

How does one obtain rubber suitable for the manufacture of bondage equipment

How does one make this equipment (i.e. joining, gluing, etc.)

Where are there resources and information on the topic


I realize that this is pretty vague, but i'm having trouble being more specific without knowing more about the material, it's properties and it's limitations. 

Thank-you in advance

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RE: Working with rubber - 3/31/2007 11:37:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Look in the phonebook under plastics and see what you find.  If you aren't in a major city, start on the internet.  Most places that sell material will know what glues to use.

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RE: Working with rubber - 4/1/2007 1:34:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most rubbers require tools and equipment to form beyond what is practically affordable by the hobbyist. 

Shaping and adhering preformed rubber is probably your best bet.  You can probably find a source for rubber sheet that you can cut into shapes somewhere.

There are also liquid "rubbers" that set when exposed to air.  You can get this stuff where they sell tools and is meant to cover handles to give them a better grip.  One brand is "plasti-dip."

Other than that, I can't provide much help not knowing what you want to do with it.  Do you want to make rubber something like cuffs or a rubber bondage chair? :D

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RE: Working with rubber - 4/4/2007 9:27:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm looking to make stuff like cuffs, collars harness' and gags.  I've heard of plasi-dip, but the consensus seems to be that its pretty toxic.  Have you used it before?

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RE: Working with rubber - 4/4/2007 1:05:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Plasti drip will kill you if you are dumb enough to drink it when it is a liquid.  The toxic part is the solvents that evaporate, what is left behind is for the most part, inert plastic.  Of course until it is fully cured it will offgas a some toxic compounds but that should end in a month or so.

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RE: Working with rubber - 4/4/2007 1:18:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		http://www.plastidip.com/consumer/msds/plastidip.pdf

I sell industrial supplies & cutting tools for the metalworking industry and you do not want to get this any where near your skin. If we are talking about the same thing, this is a solid that is melts to a liquid when heated. It peals very easy when it is applied to the component. The skin would burn very bad if you dripped it on someone. Don't do it!

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RE: Working with rubber - 4/4/2007 2:11:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeterJay

http://www.plastidip.com/consumer/msds/plastidip.pdf

I sell industrial supplies & cutting tools for the metalworking industry and you do not want to get this any where near your skin. If we are talking about the same thing, this is a solid that is melts to a liquid when heated. It peals very easy when it is applied to the component. The skin would burn very bad if you dripped it on someone. Don't do it!


Not the same thing I do believe.  This stuff I'm talking about starts out as a very viscous liquid and hardens.  It's used to coat tool handles.

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RE: Working with rubber - 4/4/2007 2:20:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: torontonovice

I'm looking to make stuff like cuffs, collars harness' and gags.  I've heard of plasi-dip, but the consensus seems to be that its pretty toxic.  Have you used it before?


Hey, I didn't notice you were a fellow Torontonain!  Welcome!

For those applications I would try and use preformed rubber sheet.  Shapes are punched out of rubber all the time, finding a supplier for whatever type, colour or texture you want should be not much of a problem.

Regarding the toxicity of plastidip.  Once it has thoroughly dried I don't see why there would be a problem.  It is a product intended to be in regular contact with the skin after all.  The possible exceptions may be being in contact with the mouth, genitals and anus which are more sensitive and absorb things more readily.  This is not a safe bet though, there are plenty of products out there that are dangerous yet we come into contact with them regularly anyway.

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RE: Working with rubber - 4/4/2007 9:43:10 PM   
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http://www.nrtna.com/

Right downtown


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RE: Working with rubber - 4/5/2007 6:49:58 AM   
torontonovice


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Status: offline 		Thank-you kindly Artificer, i've been surfing the web for a supplier of sheet rubber after the suggestions, but hadn't found one that looked promising.  I'll have to visit this place.


Site looks great, I think that the thinnish sheet in the smallest size will do nicely.  Do you know what the prices are?  I couldn't find them on the site

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RE: Working with rubber - 4/5/2007 3:11:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Like a lot of suppliers of that type, price can vary so widely that they don't post them.  Cutting fees, bulk discounts, etc.  So they probably do it on the quote system.

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RE: Working with rubber - 4/5/2007 9:51:33 PM   
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Some "how-tos" on making rubber stuff and some resources on suppliers. Happy rubbering.

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