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JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 1:49:45 AM)

why can't we all just get along?[sm=banana.gif]




sorry, i couldn't resist.[;)]




CreativeDominant -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 7:21:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: azzmaster

black men are more naturally dominant then white males...


No, no azzmaster...we are talking about DOMINANCE...not domineering...




azzmaster -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 8:32:46 AM)

and how many black men so u know personally or work with? hmnnn? i work in a multi racial and ethnic setting and my social network is the same... let me say though that wimpy dudes often need to try to diss stronger men.. we black dudes call that playa hatin




CreativeDominant -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 11:32:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: azzmaster

and how many black men so u know personally or work with? hmnnn? i work in a multi racial and ethnic setting and my social network is the same... let me say though that wimpy dudes often need to try to diss stronger men.. we black dudes call that playa hatin


Actually, I've known quite a few in my life.  Had 5 of them under me in my squad when I was in the service and served under a black First Sergeant and with another Sergeant in my platoon who was also black.  I lived in Minneapolis-Saint Paul for 11 years and had quite a few of them as clients of mine. 

What I find interesting is that when someone calls you on something...such as noting that many black men are domineering rather than dominant...that the only reason in your mind that comes into play is that the person who dared to make such a statement is a wimp.  I don't know about other white guys but I call that a diversionary tactic.




ELUSIVE1 -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 12:02:34 PM)

I can't say that I was looking for a black Master, or a white one for that matter when my first ever Master, a hot young black doctor found me...and yes race play is very edgy, but so amazing to be a part of...I think I will just stay 'colorblind', and continue to seek ...




littleonyx -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 3:59:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Sir,
 
First, let me say that I am a dominant white female.  Personally, I would have no problem interacting with another race.  What inhibits me is the history between our two races.  In reality, the whites are constantly being asked to apologize for slavery in the states and told we are the history of our acts way back then.
 
Granted.. BDSM slavery has nothing to do with reality slavery.  SPEAKING JUST FOR ME, the seed of guilt has been drummed into us for decades now that I personally could not dominate an African-American slave. 
 
Now in converse.. if I were a submissive, I'd be more inclined to submit to a black Master.  It could just be the Catholic guilt to pay for the sins of my race.   
 
It should be that race plays no part in all of it.  I session the whole person.. not their body.  This includes their baggage, their hopes and dreams and their history.
 
I've been curious with this type of of pairing- does the thought every even briefly pass one's mind about the past dynamic between the two?


Interesting.  Very interesting.  At one point, a white Master contacted me and said that He wished to have a black female slave.  We began to talk, and I was interested in why He only wanted a black slave.  He spoke about wanting to have me specifically, but said that His general preference is black women.  I asked why, and He said it was because He wanted a "historical" slave. 

I wondered what He meant and asked for more elaboration.  He broke it down to me, and made it clear that He wanted just what He said--the kind of slave that was present centuries ago.  If He felt like beating me for any reason, whether I'd been disobedient or not, then He would do so.  I was to bear four children for Him--no more, no less (upon asking Him why, He simply stated that He liked the look of "mulatto children").  I was to do the work around the house; not specifically limited to cooking, cleaning, washing clothes, etc., but this included yardwork, maintenance, and other such things.  Only when something was beyond my ability was He going to step in, so I had better learn as much as I could--because if He stepped in to do something, and it was something that I could've done myself, then I would be in for a very severe beating.  If He wished to have me sexually, then He would do so--which doesn't sound abnormal I know--but if I resisted or hesitated for any reason (sickness, menstural cycle, or whatever) then I would be beaten, taken anyway, and then beaten again.  And I'm not talking about a slap on the face.  I mean beating.  There would be name calling, of course.  If He chose to shout out, "Hey, n_ _ _ _ _ girl!" or, simply, "N _ _ _ _ _!" I was to respond with, "Yes Master?  The n _ _ _ _ _ girl is here, Master!"

My point is, He was upfront and honest about what He wanted from me.  Needless to say, I respectfully declined.  Would the shocked reactions of some have been just as great if it was a black Master wanting a white slave?  *shrugs*  Eh.  Many times I've had messages from Them, asking if I wanted a white Master.  Or, I would be asked if I minded that They were white.  And my question was this:  Should I mind?  Personally, I don't think so.  I even get mail here asking if I like white Masters.  And I'm thinking, "You mean, over a black one?"

In my opinion, it's a preference thing.  As Elusive1 said, race play is very edgy (I'm not sure if I agree with the whole "but so amazing to be a part of" part, but oh well).  And if people are into race play, then I think that it needs to be acknowledged and understood that it is just that--play.  I think that anyone that wants to get into race play solely for the pure enjoyment of seriously hurting the partner because of their race (and this isn't limited to black and white) should definitely be avoided.

But that's just my $0.02.

little onyx




LotusSong -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 4:07:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littleonyx


But that's just my $0.02.

little onyx


Excellent post, onyx and worth far more than .02 :)




GeekyGirl -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 4:10:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: QuietlySeeking

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ORIGINAL: azzmaster

let me just say this geeky girl... ur an ignorant racist and the way u think would never go over in a civilized place like new york or california... i pity the inmates who have to deal with u. 


Interesting point, azzmaster. She relates negative experiences which reinforces her preference and is criticized as a racist.  Shouldn't the comment "flat white girl ass" from your post #33 have the same standard applied?


Funny how he thinks I'm a racist yet several of my best friends are black and I flat out said I might date a black man if I met someone I had something in comment with.....I merely said I have a "knee jerk reaction" from my experiences.

I also have a negative knee jerk reaction to blonde haired men. It doesn't mean I think less of them. I'm actually about the least racist person you'd ever meet and get teased at work cause I "just hang out with the black girls". Go figure.

I'm actually APPALLED that anyone would consider me a racist. I have dated hispanic men AND asian men and I might date a black man if I ever met one I had ANYTHING in common. As of yet, I've never PERSONALLY come into contact with a black man who liked horses or who was pagan etc. This is the south...perhaps the black culture is different here? I have more black friends than any white person I know and I jump people's ass for making racist comments.

All I said was that black vs. white encompasses certain cultural difference (a statement my BLACK friends agree with) and that I had noticed a trend towards having less respect to women amongst the individuals I work with. I know the people I work with aren't exactly the creme of the crop..I have the scummy white folks, the scummy mexican folks, and the scummy black folks...just so happens that I've had upwards of 100 black men disrespect me at work and I merely stated that I was curious as to whether there was something in the cultural upbringing that caused that to happen.

*still sitting here in shock that someone would call me a racist* Don't let my black friends know, ok? They might not let me sit with them at dinner tonight!

ETA: I think black women are excellent and I'd date a black FEMALE in a heart beat. I think black women are gorgeous and have the most wonderful strong personalities! However, I've met a LOT Of black men with no respect for women (or maybe just white women?) and I'm not going to sit here, lie, and be all politically correct and say that hasn't affected my decision not to date them.

For the record, most of my black female friends do NOT believe in interraccial relationships, period. Me, I feel it's fine for others but not something I desire.




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 4:16:24 PM)

AZZ I think the key word here is "player" a  MASTER has left play behind light years ago and no disrespect issued here but I find most black doms in this just for the sex...as always just my views on your views by this ol" master..bounty




littleonyx -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 4:45:46 PM)

Ooooh, thanks Lotus.  [sm=flowers.gif]




ncmaster75 -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 4:56:31 PM)

I have seen several subs/slaves who specifically seek black doms.  I think its just a personal preference and like someone else said there is probably a shortage of black master/doms because bdsm is hardly known at all in african american culture.  As far as all of the racial talk, well I think the most lucky people in the world are colorblind.  I am bi-racial and have met all types of people from many different countries.  Out of all those people not any two of them have ever been identical in upbringing, culture, or personality.  Our need to categorize things and stereotype is just a human flaw.  It's easier to categorize than to get to know someone personally.  How many people are there in the world right now?  6 Billion plus.  How many people do I know personally?  Not even a fraction of the first figure, so my assumptions about what I know about different races of people is statistically microscopic. 




curiouspet55 -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 5:11:45 PM)

For me, it isn't about race at all. Attraction is what is important, which isn't dictated by any specific height/weight/race/hair color/etc., but by the whole package, primarily the personality. I don't have a problem with African-American Doms, but nor would I specifically look for one, I just sort of take it as it comes with no filters.




GoodLittleBitch -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 5:20:31 PM)

 Okay. I think we need a fresh statement here. It is fine to have an interracial master. I am white. I've had one master. He happened to be black. I didn't search for a black master, he didn't search for a white sub. We met, it happened. That is how things are suppose to work. I do not think anyone should back away from a potenticial good thing just because of race. I am personally not overly attracted to most black women, but, I had a black gf before, and we hit it off great.
  Being in this lifestyle with someone of another race is no different than having a relationship, or a friendship with someone of a different race. If you click, nothing else matters.
  The fact that I grew a fetish for being called his little white bitch is irrelevent.   He was in it for me. Having another different can become another interesting thing to explore. Just like being the same in that regard can have it's benifits and disadvantages.




GeekyGirl -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 5:24:10 PM)

What I find amusing is that this seems to be one of the "topics for debate" where people think there is only one right answer and if you don't give that answer, you're crucified.

I am not a racist, and never have been. I simply don't date black males. Period. I also do not date christians, republicans, or blonde males. I do not date people shorter than me or thinner than me. I do not date people with UMs, or people who don't have pets.  It's all just preference. Does that mean I hate christians, republicans, blonde men,folks with ums, folks with no pets, short folks or thin folks? No it doesn't. Does I mean I think they aren't equal or that they shouldn't have all the same rights as other people? Of course not. Just means I don't date them. It's purely preference.




crouchingtigress -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 6:35:06 PM)

bounty, i agree, black doms i have met are mostly about the sex.....but upon further thought, that could be said of most white guys who i meet in the scene.

i am not prejudiced, but heres a weird thing i realized as i pondered this question....as folks know i swithc...but as a Domme i have no interest in a black sub....yet as a sub...i do have interest in a black dom...

but as i recently said, i live on a very tiny island so honestly any one with any bdsm experience will get a good look up and down.




littleonyx -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 6:49:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoodLittleBitch

Okay. I think we need a fresh statement here. It is fine to have an interracial master. I am white. I've had one master. He happened to be black. I didn't search for a black master, he didn't search for a white sub. We met, it happened. That is how things are suppose to work. I do not think anyone should back away from a potenticial good thing just because of race. I am personally not overly attracted to most black women, but, I had a black gf before, and we hit it off great.
Being in this lifestyle with someone of another race is no different than having a relationship, or a friendship with someone of a different race. If you click, nothing else matters.
The fact that I grew a fetish for being called his little white bitch is irrelevent.   He was in it for me. Having another different can become another interesting thing to explore. Just like being the same in that regard can have it's benifits and disadvantages.


Well said.  I especially like the line, "If you click, nothing else matters."  Again, well said.

onyx




FukinTroll -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 6:59:59 PM)

~Quicky~

I think we only have one clear and persistent bigot on these boards.




AquaticSub -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 7:46:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: azzmaster

and how many black men so u know personally or work with? hmnnn? i work in a multi racial and ethnic setting and my social network is the same... let me say though that wimpy dudes often need to try to diss stronger men.. we black dudes call that playa hatin


Where I grew up the term "player hatin'" was used to refer to any girl who insisted that her man actually be honest about who he was fucking. It was also applied to any man who was crazy enough to think the actual act of "playin" (getting mutiple girls involved in a romantic relationship without telling them about it) was disgusting. I can't say I've heard it applied in this context. But perhaps things are different where you are.




crouchingtigress -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 7:58:38 PM)

i am a playa hater....and proud....

(even though hate is a little too strong a word for my taste)[:)]




FukinTroll -> RE: Black Doms (4/3/2007 8:00:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

i am a playa hater....and proud....

(even though hate is a little too strong a word for my taste)[:)]


On a totally unrelated note: Have you changed your safe word to pineapple?




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