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pwettyprincess -> Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 10:39:59 AM)

im new here and dont know if this has been done before sorry.

we always read and talk about the need for a subs safety when first meeting, during play etc but its very rare ive come across anywhere that discusses Dom/mes need to ensure they are safe too personally, in fact ive even had a pretty heated discussion with a couple of subs who thought that ridiculous.

personally i think they do and can be as much at risk as any sub.
surely im not the only one who thinks this?




IrishMist -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 10:45:27 AM)

EVERYBODY needs to feel safe; no matter what kind of life they live.

For the love of God...WE ARE NOT SPECIAL




sublizzie -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 11:00:47 AM)

Those subs are very naive.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 11:02:27 AM)

No you aren't, but there is the stereotype that subs are the weak vulnerable ones and doms are the strong protector ones.




mstrjx -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 11:04:18 AM)

Yeah.  This is a thread that I should stay far, far away from.  So I'll make this brief.

I'm certain there are a lot of people who think 'safety first' for all concerned, in first or early meetings.

I'm not one of them.  For myself, I handle my affairs the way I see fit.  I'm still here to talk about it.

I could give examples, but you wouldn't believe me.

Jeff




SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 11:06:17 AM)

Yes there are quite a few of wacko subbies that doms need to be aware of and keep their distance from.

Ross
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toservez -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 11:28:40 AM)

Like LA said it is a stereotype that often time is unintentionally followed. Dominant strong, smart and always in control therefore safe and a submissive is weak, vulnerable and not wise and does not have the ability to be safe on her own accord.

Safety of all types is important to all genders and roles period.





MasterFireMaam -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 11:33:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pwettyprincess

surely im not the only one who thinks this?



No, you're not. I've had military subs/slave. They could kill me given their training. I could have been overpowered by the 6'4" massive submissive (who's now a very good friend). I could have had any sub grab one of my knives...the scenarios go on and on.

Master Fire




StellaByStarlite -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 11:56:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mstrjx

Yeah.  This is a thread that I should stay far, far away from.  So I'll make this brief.

I'm certain there are a lot of people who think 'safety first' for all concerned, in first or early meetings.

I'm not one of them.  For myself, I handle my affairs the way I see fit.  I'm still here to talk about it.

I could give examples, but you wouldn't believe me.

Jeff



Yes I would! Spill, spill!

;)
Stella




MissyRane -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 12:04:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist
For the love of God...WE ARE NOT SPECIAL

oh my shooooooot I've been living in a lie!




arayofsunshine55 -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 2:33:33 PM)

Safetly is not a huge preoccupation for me.  Pretty early on I'll determine if I feel physically safe, meaning is this guy an axe murderer.  Reality is there are very few axe murderers and I trust my abilty to size up people.  And this does go both ways.  Whether I am talking to a dom or a sub.  As to safety with implements?  I don't worry about that either. I'm a big girl.  I don't do bondage.  I can handle it. I can speak up.  I am always engaged.  Safety is just not high on my list of preocupations.




IrishMist -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 2:36:50 PM)

quote:

oh my shooooooot I've been living in a lie!

well shucks, we all know that you are special...and that LA is special...and that the devilsister is special....

well fuck....guess that blows my argument don't it?




Rose4Mistress -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 2:51:56 PM)

physical safety is not unique to subs...dommes/switches/vanillas....everyone needs to be safe in their relationships/meetings




Archer -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 3:22:29 PM)

The question here goes right back to the same argument SSC brings about.
How safe is safe? Less risk than Combat? Less risk than driving rush hour in Atlanta on Friday when there is a game in town?
Less risk than my lily white butt walking down a dark ally in Compton wearing an expensive suit and a rolex?
Less risk than driving drunk?
Less Risk than playing with a Sadist of unknown skill level?

We all have our own idea of what is an acceptable risk for us. We in the end are all playing the odds and sooner or later those odds will catch us.




DianeB269 -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 3:28:24 PM)

I will always bring someone with me to the first meeting and sometimes to the first few
sessions.


Diane




lateralist1 -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 3:48:51 PM)

I don't feel any less safe meeting someone from our 'lifestyle' than meeting anyone else.
I have managed to extract myself from a potential rape situation twice in my life and they were long term friends.
Of course we Dom/mes get it wrong sometimes.
That's the risk we all take.
I believe I have to take risks in life to find what I am seeking.
But the emotional risk is far more of concern  to me than the physical one.
I





littleone35 -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 5:32:30 PM)

It is important for everyone to insure their safety.  That is why i will meet a person a few time in public before i invite them home.  That way he is sure i am not a psycho killer and i am sure he is not.

I have to add though you can never be 100% sure thoiugh unless yoi have know them for a while.

Matt's littleone




Domin8tingUrDrmz -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 5:41:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: littleone35

I have to add though you can never be 100% sure thoiugh unless yoi have know them for a while.



I don't think you can ever be 100% sure.  You often here stories about bad people and those who knew them often say, "He was always so nice, I never expected he would do this".  Basically, all any of us can do is be reasonably confident that we are safe and take whatever precautions we feel we must in order to have that feeling of safeness.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/4/2007 5:43:33 PM)

The day I start worrying about my physical safety is the day I hang up my spurs.  I have met naked women in hotel rooms, I have met them at their house, I have met them AND their husbands in my house, I have given out my address, my phone number and whatever else.

For some, it is something to be concerned about and goody for them but for me, I am too busy enjoying myself and them to worry about it.




pwettyprincess -> RE: Dom/mes need safety too! (4/5/2007 2:57:09 PM)

sorry i wasnt very clear,i was talking about D/s meetings in particular not just safety regarding first meets as a whole.

and not just physical safety but all other aspects too, what happens (and unfortunately it has) if for example play goes wrong or its not what a sub expects and sub runs off screaming help!police!assualt!! etc etc
the Dom/me may have stuck to every pre-agreed limit and such but try explaining ropemarks and welts or worse to the local authoritys!




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