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Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 9:28:41 AM

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I have a question. I am not sure really how to ask this. But, I am a tad confused if you will. I am an Alpha Slave to Daddy. I never had a problem pleasing him or making him happy till recently. I haven't changed anything.

Daddy seemed to enjoy that I would bend over backwards for him, even the littlest of things.
He told me recently that I havent been doing all I can to please him and do things for him, so naturally I am trying harder. But, now I think I lost that line. I mean, I set the alarm for me to get Daddy up this morning, before he went in to take his shower I thought I would ask if he wanted coffee, I thought it would start his day out good, I even thought I would make him a sandwich for lunch, and he gave me a funny look and said no he was fine.

But then that brings me to another instant... As an Alpha I am to look after him and take care of him and make sure no harm cums to Daddy. Daddy use to adore the fact I was a little stricter on his Betas when they lied or played games with him. (Mind Games)
He liked that because it showed I was looking out for him. He gave me that permission. But, now I am confused, when I make a minor mistake he throws my getting upset with the Betas for their mistakes towards Daddy in my face. So, I feel lately I shouldn't be firm with them because of that. But, yet the other night he didn't understand how come I didn't tell his Beta off for disrepecting me.

So, I guess the question is, how do I know where that line is, of taking care of Daddy, but he is a grown man kind of thing?

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 11:05:00 AM

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Is he only Daddy to you, or is he Daddy to all members of the poly arrangement?

Daddy/daughter role play is essentially a "pairing" type of role play, and when practiced 24/7 it is the interactions of the "pair", a Daddy and his daughter (D/d). When the role play is varied by the Daddy to his liking, to be poly, or to include more "daughters"... the resultant "D/d's" roleplay often deviates from the status quo "D/d" relationship (which is whatever works best for the "pairing"), and becomes a unique relationship entailing as you stated alpha and beta sub/slaves, or whatever adaptation the Daddy "wishes" in his deviation of "D/d" role play. It sure sounds like your's is unique and only your Daddy can define his unique standards, or rules of his adaptation of the D/d role play, or lifestyle as it pertains to his multiple daughters (assuming the betas you mentioned are also daughters).

Using alpha and betas in a D/d's relationship seems like it would be prone to leading to conflict between the daughters, if they are each expected to be as most D/d "pairings" roles. If you are an alpha daughter, with beta daughters also in the houshold, this is an adaptation of the role play that has no standard model, and borrows from the M/s role play, and it's provisions for poly members... a combination of D/d and M/s, and the Master/Daddy has to outline the specific roles for each level of participant.

An oft beaten horse in lifestyle relationships is the issue of open communications between Dominant and sub/slave(s). The Daddy must define the specifics of each role for his alpha and beta participants... if he does not do this, then all each of you can do is guess what he wants. It's his responsibility to teach, and if he doesn't, the blame for any displeasure or unhappiness on his part can be found in the mirror... not in the sub/slave participants.

You should be regarded on your merits of serving, not on an ability of guessing. The Daddy has to define and teach vs being silent and expecting his unknown desires or expectations to me met or exceeded by you or anyone in the relationship. The Daddy has the answers and guidance you seek... no one here can define what he wishes.

I'd suggest a sit down discussion to ask the Daddy what if anything has changed from your previous relationship role(s).

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 1:01:41 PM

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Honestly, I would expect him to be more strict with me, as *I* am suppose to know his needs, wants and desires well enough to make sure they are being taken care of by the beta's I am in charge of. And if I am allowing the beta's to be rude and not saying anything because *I* fear him being harsher on me when I don't live up to his expectations, I would consider myself already having failed just in the act of behaving with my own best interest first.

I could be reading this wrong, but that was what I got out of it....

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 2:44:45 PM

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Well no. See it isn't I fear he will be harsher on me. The Beta he has is alot younger and he makes excuses for her like well she is young and doesnt know any better. I figure if you have been in the lifestyle a while and claim to be submissive then you know better. If I am stern to her she goes crying to Daddy. We have both told her before if she does something wrong the only reason I am talking to her about it or being stern with her about it, is because Daddy has asked me too or it is a concern of Daddy's as well as mine.

But this isn't about that... Daddy has one other I would call Sub, so there are two of us. I am the Alpha and she is the Beta. If we want to discuss the D/d's relationship that's fine. The problem with the Beta lies in, she is an attention whore which we are both trying to break her of, she also has a jealousy streak. She doesn't like that Daddy has another Slave. Daddy allowed me to lay down some of my own rules to her when we were introduced, one was, jealousy has no room in this lifestyle and neither Daddy or I will deal with it. Well, she is local but not local to the point we see her very easy. So I guess you would say I am the only acting Slave at this time in Daddy's life. Yes it is 24/7 we live together. He prefers his Slaves to call him Daddy, it sets him apart from Sir and Master. I understand each Daddy/Daughter role would be different from the other, but, Daddy claims it would soley be on how we present ourselves.

The issue is I know what Daddy wants, desires, and needs, just I dont know where the line is to where I am doing too much I guess you can say. There have been times I have worried about him and cared for him to the point he would get mad and tell me he is a grown man and can look after himself, or take care of himself. So.... I was just wondering if there is some sort of secret to knowing when to put that foot forward or when to stay where I am? I love Daddy very much I just want to be good to him.

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 3:16:33 PM

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It sounds to me like Daddy has made his own bed and is now getting tired of sleeping in it. How the hell can anyone keep track of everything going on? No wonder he is cranky.

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 3:29:25 PM

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There have been times I have worried about him and cared for him to the point he would get mad and tell me he is a grown man and can look after himself, or take care of himself.

To me it sounds like you are seeking the line between "mothering' Daddy and being slave to Daddy....

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The issue is I know what Daddy wants, desires, and needs, just I dont know where the line is to where I am doing too much I guess you can say.

And again comes the word "communication". No one here can possibly tell you where this line is, as it's your Daddy's line.

Though in my opinion, it sounds as if maybe you are trying SO hard to be perfect, that he feels smothered. Is it a control issue? A security issue? Some other kind of issue?

Am I reading too much into it?

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 4:02:09 PM

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Lol, Daddy isn't tired he will ignore the Beta at times when she calls in hopes she will get the idea that he wants her to call me and talk to me. He wants her to pay more attention to me as he hopes that instead of her calling me Miss, at some point if she does become a Perm Sub that she will adapt to calling me Mommy.

If I have control issues I certainly wouldn't be a Slave/Sub. He says he wants me to make sure I am always thinking of him, and that in every situation I should know if Daddy wants/needs/or desires anything. Things that I wasn't brought up to do like cook, is fine because his Beta knows and will do it. He wants us to cook, clean, do laundry, make sure he is okay, make sure he is taken care of, all of that.

You are right I can't expect anyone can answer his wants except for Daddy. We do communicate, but, I am thinking it isn't that he feels smothered, if he is downstairs on his comp and I am upstairs he cums up stairs to see why I am not downstairs with him or if I go to visit family he is constantly calling me because he wants to see if I am still alive.

I think it is probably more the sexual aspects of it but I could be wrong. Daddy wont repeat himself if he feels he has insinuated or told me once before.

I was just wondering if anyone has come to a point like that is all. Thanks for your advice.

By the way he is a Poly Dom, he has delt with alot more than this.

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 4:36:41 PM

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He says he wants me to make sure I am always thinking of him, and that in every situation I should know if Daddy wants/needs/or desires anything.

So you just need to know "when", right? From what I've read, it would seem that "when" is when he starts getting cranky. Does he want you to be Mommy to your sis only, or are you expected to be Mommy to him? When you go visit family is he calling for daughter or Mommy? Not repeating something whatsoever, whether spoken or insinuated is a pretty hard line in itself. Has it been that way from the beginning , or is this something which recently started, like coincidentally with beta sis?

You did say it was sis who was the attention slut, right?

The example you gave of him desiring things you were not raised to do is interesting, for instance cooking. You state that you know Daddy's desire, but also state your inability and unwillingness by virtue of your shifting that desire onto the beta sis. Daddy wants you to cook, but you feel beta sis should cook since she knows how, thus creating a vaccum in your ability to please Daddy. If this were the entire vaccum and nothing else, it would perhaps be insignificant, but only Daddy, you and beta sis know the whole big picrure of your relationship. The simple fact you inferred before of being compared to beta sis (his throwing your criticism of her in your face), resembles resentment. Is there resentment of any type in any other areas? Silence can be a form of resentment.

If the beta sis is an occaisional play partner, and not 24/7 with Daddy and you, what do you eat when beta sis is not there to do the cooking? Hungry people are often cranky.

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 4:48:07 PM

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No no you have it wrong. For the cooking thing. Daddy knows I can't cook, I do make the effort. I go online or call my mum when I need to know how, what, when, and where when it comes to that. Daddy has told me it is okay, he will cook for me once in a while and when Beta comes to us then since she was raised to make meals he will have her cook. I did not shift that responcsibility, nor did I say I was unwhilling I show I am whilling. It is something that I need to know anyway. Beta is an attention whore but this has nothing to do with her. It has to do with Daddy and me, and no Daddy calls for his Slave Daddy calls for me. But, he wants Beta to call for me as Mommy if and when she becomes permanent. I am Daughter/Slave to Daddy, and Mommy/Miss to Beta. I only used a situation with her as an example of the situation as far as what I originally asked about Daddy and I. Beta has no place in my question sorry if I have confused you. No she is spoken to on the phone only, we work too much and too many reasons why she is not here with us now, hints why I stated I am his only true acting Slave, hints why Beta has not role in my original question. Daddy doesnt starve we both cook. Beta has never been here.

As far as resentment??? who is resenting whom?

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 5:17:01 PM

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Boy, now I'm cranky!

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RE: Daddy's Happiness - 5/24/2004 5:24:19 PM

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Lol. Well, all in all I am on this site now to find a RT Sub for Daddy to please him and me. So that shows it has nothing to do with other Slaves/Subs or even Mistresses for that matter is one should want to play. Daddy and I are very open.

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