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lockedaway -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:17:16 AM)
You rest your case??? You referred to them as cheaters just like i did. I think you are watching too much CSI or something. For the people who stay because of the finances, here is another point of view and it applies equally for men and women. Whores screw for money but they don't stay with who they are screwing. Cheaters screw for free but they stay for money. Aren't they both whores then irrespective of the gender? And lies like "oh honey, there is nothing between your best friend and me" aren't kind, they are savage.

SusanofO -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:19:07 AM)
lockedaway: I gotta take a nap. But I am sure someone else will pick up where I left off. I am not being rude, I am just falling-down tired (not your fault). Good week-end to you. - Susan

lockedaway -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:19:58 AM)
You didn't answer my question in my post to you whether you considered people who cheat and fail to tell their spouse because they don't want their spouse to do the same thing they are as repugnant. Why not?

lapresence -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:22:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway What i get from reading this thread is that there are some people out there that want moral justification for the immoral things they do. You can't have it. If you cheat one someone and they find out, they will probably hate you! And they will hate you for good reason. You have to be big enough to accept that hate and expect nothing other than their hate if you are going to engage in that course of conduct. My advice...for what it's worth...if you want to take another lover, tell your spouse, tell your spouse to do the same and then go enjoy your lover. You will think better of yourself that way. I think we are just discussing the thread. I know I am just trying to make people aware of the other side, and maybe people will realize, there might be more to this whole thing. I don't need moral justification from anyone. I'm open about myself. I really don't care what other people think. Ironically, her hubby found out about me and doesn't care.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:23:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO SirDiscipliner69: Is it really, seriously your hope to get every single person to agree here? Would that be realisitic? Not at al..never was As it goes I think people should be polite to eachother, when folks comment. I am just wondering why people cannot all have their own opinions, here, which is not what you seem to think, Sir D. I do think people have the right to opinions just as I have the right not to agree with their perceptions...one goes with the other... Guess I am wondering really, what your goal is, and just felt compelled out of curiosity, to ask. you have read enough of My writings to know y know it is communication and discussion without fear of retribution and flaming..yet if you falme make sure you are wearing a singe proof fire retardant suit[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Especially when you state your open-mindnedness as a thread-host, w/such liberal, 'come-one-come-all', attitude-adjusting thoughts such as: "Those who don't agree with me, will simply have to move on." Well if they are here for discussion of the topic or mudslinging yes...I have even opened up other postings and ventured others to sling away in other postings but mz mod stops them as we all need to get along and it makes too much work for her. I am simply trying to abide to the rules as they change I obviously need more sleep, I am usually not crabby. Back to bed for me... *Why do you* keep coming back time after time when you have washed your hands of the topic I wonder? Ross ©º°¨¨°º©**

SusanofO -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:25:21 AM)
lockedaway: Because I don't want to. I'm tired, you wouldn't agree or understand, and don't have to defend myself, and I am seriously in need of sleep. It seems a lost cause. I have absolutley zero desire to go around in circles discussing topic like this, w/someone who obviously already thinks, that theirs is the only POV in the world that carries any weight - especially when it is not their own behavior to which they refer. That okay w/you? Even if it's not, I do have to get some sleep. - Susan

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:25:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Squeakers quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 No such thing as a true dom or subbie...but good luck in your serach Ross ©º°¨¨°º© Ummm did you read what I wrote or miss it when I said my relationship was pretty close to perfect. Ohhhh maybe you meant I should search and seek someone to sneak around with and see how long it would take for me to get away with it. No I actually dismissed the treory of perfect but I am glad you are happy No I do not advocate doing anything nor taking any of the advice I write about as I do practice RACK Do not try this at home. I did in one of My writings a while back post a disclaimer regarding any or all of My writings. Thanks Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:31:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: redsky okay, im puzzled.... i thought to be a good Dom/sub that there had to be 'emotions' - I have covered that in previous writings in other posts...and I am sure with a little bit of searching you could find it... Maybe some of Us want to be bad examples and carry the RACK banner high...[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] if someone is afraid to become emotionally attatched then how can the D's relationship work? The desire to personify emotions within domination is a natural human emotion to make things nice and fuzzy...however it is not needed for any given legth or predetermined endurance but is often sought out by those that feel the need to personalize their sessions rather than take aboot camp pro dom approach to it. i have always thought that the lifestyle were too deep both mentally & physically for one not to become emotional in any way. It is the mental realm that is important. All My writings have conveyed it. It is a core value. sometimes being blonde (& still fairly new to this)sucks!! Are you a true blonde? Being new to it gives you an advantage as you are not as jaded as some of Us. [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:33:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Squeakers Fast reply in response to no one in paticular---but this thread makes me wonder---does extreeme loneliness and no sex cause some sort of brain damage? I am sure there are studies you might google quicker and more accurate results without the drama. I do know that low self esteme results in lashng out in most inarticualte ways and is still unsatifactory for some and hence the obsesive food intake. Google it and give Us the results.... Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

lockedaway -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:34:07 AM)
Oh...since we are on the topic of rejecting moral absolutes...like cheating...i guess if any of you folks have children, they are fair game for us to have sexually, right? C'mon...cheating isn't wrong. That is what you are saying. Why would any us having sex with your elementary school aged child be wrong??? Oh...is it because it is YOUR ox that is then being gored? Your answer is that the child doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct. The spouse that is being cheated on doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct either because of the cheating spouse's duplicity. I kind of like living in a world were there are things that are conisdered to be universally wrong. You folks are arguing for a very dangerous world where the strongest, most violent and most cunning reign supreme and no one can be judged for their actions.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 11:45:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hrafnkel At first I thought that you were joking with this, and that you were using humor to agree with me. But my girl insists she's certain you're actually serious. So, alright. First, I'm not so certain 'logic' is a word you want to use. There are no rhetorical arguements in the opinion I stated except for a very straightforward arguement by definition. If you freely take a vow, youre basically committing to keeping it on your word and honor. If you choose otherwise without seeking release from the commitment, or evade via deception, then you're being morally weak. Its not really my definition, unless you believe I force people to get married. Vows are sacred and should be honored. People are human. Show Me the last drama you watched on DVD or movies that was just like the little house on the prarie. Mind you I too have fallen to the corruption of values admittedly[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] These aren't really my definitions, though., I think part of the problem is a confusion in what I mean by the phrase 'self respect'. It's not the same as self interest, which is really I think what the politicans and spouses you seem to be defending are acting out of. Not really defending but being more matter of factly Guess when it is time to be accounted for My sins I would rather be known as a lusty hedonst than someone that stole and defrauded the people ... People still have to take responsibilities for why situations degrade at home.. Communication is usually one...lack of it So guess the concept of includingthe trust issue is negating that of sane, consent eh?[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] I also find it curious that you interpret my statements to apply to women who cheat and not men. Perhaps that is your perception as it was not My intention at all to convey women as the only sluts...[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Yes there are alot of horndoggs out there of both sexes...and in between too...[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] I do have a tendency to refer to submissives in the feminine, and I should, I confess be more careful with that, as it generally alludes to personal experience and not a deeper view. As all My subbies have been females there by excluding a greater statisitcal advantage of Saturday night dates and guess I am not really Dominant as I have pointed out in previous writings as if I were a TRUE dominant I would be dominating women AND men...o well...such is the luck [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] However I have been pondering subbie couples but with no real potentials yet as most disappear after intro...which is just fine as I do not intend to invest time with the unfocused [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] But in no place do I say 'what is morally right for a woman'. I say whats morally right for people who take on a moral obligation. That is simply keeping it. Good point..hope you are continually sucessful at it But your final premise was simply golden. Just for comedic shock value I think it's brilliant. That cheating spouses should feel good about themselves because politicians lie, too. Actually I believe you interjected another writers posts into My perception.... Kudos for coming up with a proposition thats simply too preposterous to easily be confronted on any rational level. Sorry I can not take credit for that one...I will simply let you get the credit....[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 11:46:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO I don't actually think it's realistic for Sir Discipliner69, to have even introduced it as a topic, or to expect anything but a 'war-torn' out-come. I've been around this block, before. Do Us all a favor and go get some sleep. I may just delete all My writings now that they are being put on dvd... Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

myobedience -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:48:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness to a woman that is not getting what she needs at home? I have found the eagarness and willingness to serve and please Me is well rewarded and makes training very enjoyable for Both. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© What a topic on this "bad luck" Friday ! [sm=whoa.gif] I had to laugh when I came upon it ! For all those who post to cheating wives and husbands and dissing them into the ground...this is a "hot" topic to be responding to I see. I do know personally 2 married submissives who if they were single would not make willing and obedient delicious subs. [:D]

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 11:48:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hammernhoney YES delicous,a willing submissive without the 24-7 troubles,,,hnh I know that face... Perhaps you might enlighten Us how you might get the bits into the mouths of some of these potential ponies. [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Nothing that a little seasoned crop wouldn't cure...[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:50:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: proudsub quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness to a woman that is not getting what she needs at home? I have found the eagarness and willingness to serve and please Me is well rewarded and makes training very enjoyable for Both. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© When i was doing that i found it very stressful, so glad those days are over.[:o] Yes it is an evolving process isn't it? Hence the dumping of My writings as more of a spiritual cleansing and regeneration to the next step. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 11:50:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne or nothing like the laziness of a Dominant who doesn't have to deal with actually interacting with the submissive. They can just send them home. willing to cheat on your spouse is one of their top requirements. i never found the attraction of being with a married Dom appealing because they cannot return affection back to you.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:54:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: akisha quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness to a woman that is not getting what she needs at home? I have found the eagarness and willingness to serve and please Me is well rewarded and makes training very enjoyable for Both. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© So you're encouraging people that cheat? Why yes of course..just ignore what I have written previously and lets go with this statement...obviously I am not aware of My disappearing posts... Doesn't say much about the submissives character or yours for that matter really. Why I let others say it for Me in the psots...people who don't read beyond the words... Personally i think if someone is not happy in the relationship they are in then they should end it and find what they need in life. Good point but most won't as it is a matter of convience... I bet half of the readers do not have the same intensity in dinner discussion as they did when they were dating.... Cheating just hurts everyone involved, you are very correct... Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

lapresence -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:54:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway Oh...since we are on the topic of rejecting moral absolutes...like cheating...i guess if any of you folks have children, they are fair game for us to have sexually, right? C'mon...cheating isn't wrong. That is what you are saying. Why would any us having sex with your elementary school aged child be wrong??? Oh...is it because it is YOUR ox that is then being gored? Your answer is that the child doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct. The spouse that is being cheated on doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct either because of the cheating spouse's duplicity. I kind of like living in a world were there are things that are conisdered to be universally wrong. You folks are arguing for a very dangerous world where the strongest, most violent and most cunning reign supreme and no one can be judged for their actions. Oh wow, now you are being absolutely absurd. There are absolutes, but not many (I said there were few absolutes in my first post, not no absolutes). Children, animals, rape, murder (although if things were very extreme, and the greatest good for the greatest number were served, then even these, one would hope would be pushed to the test). Rosemary's Baby comes to mind. Luckily, not a realistic situation. I'm not saying everyone should go cheat (which I assume you are smart enough to know), but I don't think it is fair for someone to supplant their needs and desires to their spouse because their spouse can't comprehend or wouldn't approve of (and if they have kids, win custody of the kids if it was revealed what their interests were) their desires. In a perfect world, their spouse would understand, would love them, and try either to do things with them or make things open for the one to try those things. But the world isn't perfect. I know, the world isn't fair. But it all boils down to your own argument. Point of veiw, baby, point of view.

sleazybutterfly -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 11:57:34 AM)
Why does this only go out to doms...maybe some of the subs like having a dom that is cheating, giving him something he can't get from his wife. We all do things, some good, some not so good. We all also have our reasons for them, justified to us, but hard to justify to anyone else. I have cheated in the past and been cheated on, such is life. Do I feel bad about it now? Well, if I had to do over, I wouldn't do it, but it was the past and not something I am going to beat myself up over. To each their own, but it's not something I would do, nor put up with again. We are both very open and honest about what we want, I love that we can be. I am supposed to meet a dom/friend I have known since before M here pretty soon. I went over what I was allowed to do, and not to do..such as can we hug, or kiss. The rules are set and out in the open, that just makes things easier on everyone. I could never stand to hurt M, and I know he would not hurt me..no sex or play is worth that to either of us.

drawntothedark -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:57:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway Oh...since we are on the topic of rejecting moral absolutes...like cheating...i guess if any of you folks have children, they are fair game for us to have sexually, right? C'mon...cheating isn't wrong. That is what you are saying. Why would any us having sex with your elementary school aged child be wrong??? Oh...is it because it is YOUR ox that is then being gored? Your answer is that the child doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct. The spouse that is being cheated on doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct either because of the cheating spouse's duplicity. I kind of like living in a world were there are things that are conisdered to be universally wrong. You folks are arguing for a very dangerous world where the strongest, most violent and most cunning reign supreme and no one can be judged for their actions. Wanna make a bet on to how long this thread stays open before the Mods take it down.

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