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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/3/2007 1:37:38 AM   
WhiplashSmile


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Just drop their mirror in swimming pool and watch 'em drown...  I myself actually have a very low tolerence for Narcissistic people especially Dom/mes.  In fact they tend to provoke a sadistic deeply sarcastic side in me, where I want to reach inside their mind and crush it for the empty beer can that it is.   I actually get off on, enjoy or take pleasure in humilating, shaming or otherwise verbally putting these types in their place. 

Don't get me wrong I believe in a healthy ego, but anybody who is so in Love with themselves that they can't see past their wonderful image they are seeing in their own mirror..  Grrrrrrrrrrrrr...

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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/3/2007 2:12:42 AM   
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mirrors have many facets.

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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/3/2007 7:04:30 PM   
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Anyone ever hear of the inverted narcissist? It's the compliment of the narcissist - as dysfunctional, and they need narcissists in their lives as much as narcissists need them.

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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/4/2007 2:18:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jthorne


Psssh. A true dominant realizes it's all about the submissive. I agree with whoever said these people have never been in real relationships.


Wrong!
A true dominant realises that its all about the submissive and himself/herself
If you believe that its all about the submissive then you are being narcissistic

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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/4/2007 2:19:46 AM   
Copulo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile

Just drop their mirror in swimming pool and watch 'em drown...  I myself actually have a very low tolerence for Narcissistic people especially Dom/mes.  In fact they tend to provoke a sadistic deeply sarcastic side in me, where I want to reach inside their mind and crush it for the empty beer can that it is.   I actually get off on, enjoy or take pleasure in humilating, shaming or otherwise verbally putting these types in their place. 

Don't get me wrong I believe in a healthy ego, but anybody who is so in Love with themselves that they can't see past their wonderful image they are seeing in their own mirror..  Grrrrrrrrrrrrr...


Good on you and I soooooooo agree
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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/5/2007 12:37:46 PM   
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I will freely admit I'm every bit a narcissist.  And I'm a slave.  I'm also a dominant woman.  My life IS all about me, but in being all about me, it takes the form of service to one and domination of others, because that's what makes ME happy.  In serving the Kaptin, my need to be caretaker is met.  In surrendering control of my life to Him, my need to be "reined in" is met.  In dominating others, my need for power is met.

Even though every scenario in my life is, on the surface, a give-and-take situation... it's all driven by what I need in order to feel fulfilled.  If I didn't need it, it wouldn't be happening. 


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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/6/2007 3:44:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Evanesce

I will freely admit I'm every bit a narcissist.  And I'm a slave.  I'm also a dominant woman.  My life IS all about me, but in being all about me, it takes the form of service to one and domination of others, because that's what makes ME happy.  In serving the Kaptin, my need to be caretaker is met.  In surrendering control of my life to Him, my need to be "reined in" is met.  In dominating others, my need for power is met.

Even though every scenario in my life is, on the surface, a give-and-take situation... it's all driven by what I need in order to feel fulfilled.  If I didn't need it, it wouldn't be happening. 



That doesn't sound so much narcissistic as it does self-aware.

You recognise your own needs, and you are true to them.

Whereas narcissism is all about creating a false image of onesself and catering to that false image, and spending a lifetime overcompensating for a fragile sense of self.

Seems to me that knowing and accepting who you really are is more like the opposite of narcissism, though i could be wrong.

*shrugs*

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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/6/2007 10:21:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BayouSub

This does not just apply to dominant males.  There is significant narcissim among dominant females. 

For me, a dom/sub relationship is symbiotic, that is, both parties benefit from the relationship.  Dommes have a tendency to forget this because the ratio of subs to dommes so favors them.  Frankly, I find some domme profiles absolutely insulting. 

Dominants would do well to remember that their power orientation does not make them smarter, better looking or physically stronger than submissives.  It does not give any greater weight to their opinions. 

I choose to submit because it is something that I enjoy and is consistent with my nature.  I assume that dominants enjoy my submission or they would not engage in it.    I don't think submission is a gift because a gift implies that I get nothing in return and I get much in return from submission.   I assume that the dominant enjoys being in control as much as I enjoy submitting to that control and, thus, they are not giving me a gift.  They are enjoying themselves and, if that is not the case, they are submissive rather than dominant  (IMHO).

Bottom line:  I consider dominance and submission a MUTUAL thing.  It's not all about the dominant and it's not all about the submissive. It's about both.  The best relationships, in my opinion, happen when each party recognizes this mutuality.




Well said

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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/6/2007 10:25:07 AM   
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I've definately run into more then my fair share of self-serving, ego-stroking knotheads who think their shit doesn't stink and their every opinion should be taken as universal law.

I think it's a side effect of those who let their dominance get to their head.

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Subs too - 5/6/2007 1:04:51 PM   
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In my limited online experience, I have noticed my fair share of self-absorbed subbies. It may be a human failing that is equally shared across persuasions.

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RE: Subs too - 5/6/2007 1:53:40 PM   
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I am a self proclaimed proud narcissist.  My narcissism is fueled by my need for high self esteem.  In this time of negativity about a multitude of subjects, one needs to grasp on to something to keep them feeling good about themselves.  If looking into a proverbial river to see my reflection works for me, then I am going to do it.  I in no way take the holier than thou path and think my way is the only right way to go.  I am all about allowing people to be who they are without ostrazation.  I have been this way all my life and it ain't gonna change now.

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RE: Subs too - 5/6/2007 2:12:23 PM   
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Yeah, psychiatrists and people like that distinguish between healthy and unhealthy narcissism.  A lot depends on how honest a person is with themselves.  To be self-centered and preoccupied with ones self isn't all bad.  I would say its necessary to maintaining balance.

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RE: Narcissism and the dominant male. - 5/7/2007 5:25:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lillithsdream

I've been on CM for a long time now....met and talked with many Dom/masters.
The one characteristic I find extremely prevalent, is narcissism. Repeatedly I kept hearing their needs, their wants...what they seek sexually, what they expect in RL, like housework, contributing monetary, on and on. Why? Don't they realize since it is a power exchange it's not all about them? It's about the "us" factor? What do they have to offer? Everyone has different styles....to me wiping the board clean, totally, before each relationship is the way to go, not to be compared to anyone. Narcissism is indeed a mental disorder....and it seems big time in BDSM. I have switch tendencies...man...do I feel giving some of these doms a good flogging~!


I am perfect.  I am wonderful.  The world is mine.  I don't see the problem with that.

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